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Face Sculpting Index - Sunday Demo - Log 2: Why use aluminum for armature, to pose the figures |
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norajean_sf: before I do that I'll save log. For those who are new Check out the armature link, look at the pictures and I'll be back in a tick. kamoe23: Sorry NJ, I didn't realize the time. I have to hurry up early on Monday. So I must say nighty night to ya'll norajean_sf: Nighty Night Karin rschneiter1963: nite Karin spksgntly2: good night Karin foggy5555: l8r canastananny: Bye Karin connie_flying: nite Karin nndewbre: I'll be thinking about you Karin, sending vibes mommaclara2001: Nite Karin kamoe23: Have all fun, buy... and thanks Norma:-* kamoe23 has left the conference. nndewbre: :x nndewbre: what time will the operation be? connie_flying: Is the webcam only showing a skull, or is mine frozen? rschneiter1963: skull on mine spksgntly2: still a skull here foggy5555: i only have a skull. mommaclara2001: Skull connie_flying: ok thanks :) norajean_sf: Connie, I was saving log, and when I'm typing or saving log, no activity will take place with the cam. I need an assistant, ya that's the ticket. LOL rschneiter1963: hahaha connie_flying: awwwww NJ I'm used to seeing you make faces. LOL and I thought I was froze up. mommaclara2001: She warms things up! raven_hill_wench: mug shot! heh raven_hill_wench: lol norajean_sf: Ok, now folks ask me why I use aluminum foil and not wire. spksgntly2: bulk? rschneiter1963: release? raven_hill_wench: cheaper norajean_sf: It's because I pose the bodies after putting clay on them and not the other way around. norajean_sf: also, as Shawna points out norajean_sf: it's cheap norajean_sf: handy mommaclara2001: Ok, why do you use foil and not wire? norajean_sf: LOL raven_hill_wench: I buy mine at the dollar store heh norajean_sf: Wire is a pill, posing figures with wire can poke your fingers norajean_sf: let's look at the guy in rough draft that we did yesterday and put him in different poses right quick. norajean_sf: he's wrapped in waxed paper rschneiter1963: why waxed paper? raven_hill_wench: keeps dirt off the clay norajean_sf: keep him clean raven_hill_wench: Im smart today, no quarters for me lol norajean_sf: basicly. The waxed paper can be recycled for years, longer you use it the softer it gets, plasticizers leach into the waxed paper and it's cheap and handy to cover things. raven_hill_wench: ooommm norajean_sf: he knows yoga rschneiter1963: haha foggy5555: contortionist icare4bunnies has joined the conference. norajean_sf: now let's make him really relaxed norajean_sf: Howdy Jael. mona_77082: Ah...a Zen position...do I hear an ommmmmm icare4bunnies: hey! esther_reeves has joined the conference. canastananny: Hi Jael icare4bunnies: didn't even know there was a demo, I'm behind the times spksgntly2: hi bunny mommaclara2001: Hi to the two new ladies. icare4bunnies: is there a webcam? raven_hill_wench: when posing him, how do you keep the foil from slicing through the clay? spksgntly2: yep raven_hill_wench: yep NJ has one mommaclara2001: Yes there is icare4bunnies: I need an invite, sweet nj spksgntly2: right click on noras name raven_hill_wench: right click her name, go to more then view webcam spksgntly2: a new trick we learned today spksgntly2: hit view webcam norajean_sf: now he's going night night, where's his blanket? icare4bunnies: I have a mac but I do remember how to get on it. I just didn't see "view my webcam" next to her name raven_hill_wench: he needs a quilt You have invited icare4bunnies to view your webcam. spksgntly2: oh norajean_sf: sent you invite to cam Jael. mona_77082: Is his thumb in his mouth!? icare4bunnies: thanks nj raven_hill_wench: lol mona foggy5555: is it possible to get video AND audio? affectsoftheart has left the conference. norajean_sf: can you bold your font Jael, it's easier for me to read icare4bunnies: what did I meet? canastananny: On mine I have to also click on to more icare4bunnies: what did I miss spksgntly2: me too nanny icare4bunnies: this better? rschneiter1963: she is posing mr man norajean_sf: nothing, we're just starting, showing how to pose a figure when using aluminum foil armature norajean_sf: great Jael, thanks. raven_hill_wench: ellen, only if the person has messenger with voice and a microphone norajean_sf: Now if he were a circus acrobat? foggy5555: i don't think i have my mike hooked up yet icare4bunnies: I've never done an aluminum foil armature. raven_hill_wench: ouch icare4bunnies: you are having too much fun nj posey4u has joined the conference. spksgntly2: wish I could bend that easy canastananny: No sound is used as we have hearing impaired.... So to be fair to everyone ... foggy5555: k raven_hill_wench: are his elbows bending backwards? canastananny: We only type out what we want to say donnalny has left the conference. icare4bunnies: and I don't have access to sound... mommaclara2001: Hi posey norajean_sf: no sound canastananny: Right You have invited posey4u to view your webcam. icare4bunnies: yep posey4u: hey everyone raven_hill_wench: hi posey! rschneiter1963 has joined the conference. rschneiter1963: ok back canastananny: glad you norajean_sf: now does everyone have cam? bonsaikathy: yup norajean_sf: we had some folks get booted out posey4u: yup canastananny: yes esther_reeves: yes rschneiter1963: yup nake man foggy5555: yes mona_77082: Got Cam here bonsaikathy: Hi Esther krafty_karen_mc: yes here esther_reeves: hi connie_flying: yes raven_hill_wench: I do and he looks double jointed norajean_sf: Esther, how's your tummy? Feeling better? esther_reeves: yes a bit norajean_sf: big hugs esther_reeves: thanks posey4u: I just got in from the game bonsaikathy: NJ since we've had several new folks to joins should we do a roll call raven_hill_wench: football? posey4u: yep Pittsburgh posey4u: we are in the play offs canastananny: Tamara here in Houston, Texas raven_hill_wench: cool norajean_sf: Yes, let's do Roll Call norajean_sf: NoraJean, San Francisco mommaclara2001: Clara, WV bonsaikathy: Kathy in E. tn connie_flying: Connie - Reno NV raven_hill_wench: we are hosting the superbowl, but wont be playing in it lol icare4bunnies: Jael, Ill foggy5555: ellen here in perry, ga (right outside warner robins afb) raven_hill_wench: Shawna, Detroit icare4bunnies: IL mona_77082: Mona Houston esther_reeves: Esther, Coventry, England posey4u: Marsha Clearfield Pa krafty_karen_mc: Karen.....Alberta icare4bunnies: foggy, pink is hard to read, can you darken it? posey4u: we have to play Denver next week end foggy5555: is this color better? norajean_sf: so the purpose of posing this rough draft male figure, for those who just joined, is to show how the aluminum foil armature aids in posing figures. Better then wire or anything else that I've found. Ok? icare4bunnies: yes, thanks norajean_sf: Armature-Grp nndewbre: Norma, Georgia norajean_sf: In this web section are many aluminum armatures posed in different positions. mona_77082: I have grasped this principal and embrace it! :) posey4u: maybe we all should buy stock in aluminum foil foggy5555: he is a limber little guy norajean_sf: but when we cover it with clay, we leave the arms and legs extended. norajean_sf: Oh he's double jointed. norajean_sf: he's playing Hide and Go Seek now. norajean_sf: one mississippi, two mississippi posey4u: can you image all the positions he can do posey4u: LOL raven_hill_wench: love the dress rschneiter1963 has left the conference. Showing Josana... http://www.norajean.com/New_Projects/Josana/Index.htm raven_hill_wench: wow posey4u: I love her spksgntly2: Thats pretty mommaclara2001: Isn't she cute? posey4u: yes norajean_sf: http://www.norajean.com/New_Projects/ManAndBeast/LadyWpot/Index.htm foggy5555: adorable vlady6us has joined the conference. icare4bunnies: I'll have to try this and see if I can do it well enough to teach it at one of my classes at Michael's. norajean_sf: she was a full nude before getting clay fabric clothing vlady6us: thanks nj....lol You have invited vlady6us to view your webcam. vlady6us: hi everyone norajean_sf: sorry about that Sandie bonsaikathy: HI Sandie icare4bunnies: did you bake her and then add clothes? vlady6us: no problem norajean_sf: I was fixing to copy a link when you IM'd me posey4u: hey Sandy mommaclara2001: Hi Sandy spksgntly2: Hi lady raven_hill_wench: we dont have anyone teaching clay at my michaels :( norajean_sf: About the clothing made of cloth icare4bunnies: aw icare4bunnies: we didn't at mine until I started! vlady6us: the lady who teaches at our michaels..is taking lessons from me..... posey4u: I see that clay is on sale icare4bunnies: lol norajean_sf: the body and the clay fabric were both raw, she was dressed with arms and legs extended. vlady6us: yeah it is..and i was there at 10 this morning icare4bunnies: I see, thanks nj norajean_sf: Let's keep focus ladies, thanks vlady6us: ok raven_hill_wench: I need to get better at my techniques before I could think of teaching norajean_sf: I'll take a break at the top of the hour and then everyone can chat. mona_77082: So you started with a raw body, added raw clothes.... and then norajean_sf: about the clay fabric and raw bodies. icare4bunnies: I have a question - do you let the body sit so it can cool before dressing? norajean_sf: If you dress the raw bodies with raw clay fabric and THEN pose them the draping of the fabric will be natural. norajean_sf: Not really, the bodies need to be flexible. icare4bunnies: but not mooshy LOL You have invited raven_hill_wench to view your webcam. rschneiter1963 has joined the conference. rschneiter1963: am I here? bonsaikathy: yes spksgntly2: yep mommaclara2001: yes icare4bunnies: you are. spksgntly2: lol norajean_sf: sorry Shawna I was sending invite to cam to someone else You have invited rschneiter1963 to view your webcam. raven_hill_wench: sit still! lol canastananny: Company just arrived... Hope to join again later. bye spksgntly2: bye bonsaikathy: bye icare4bunnies: nj, do you ever heat set the face before posing? norajean_sf: One trick about dressing a raw clay body raven_hill_wench: lol ok rschneiter1963: sorry norajean_sf: dust the inside of the clay fabric with baby powder foggy5555: hey all, i've got to go. hubby has dinner ready. i enjoyed watching the web cam demonstration and thanks for all of the warm welcomes! you're a great group!. Go Clayers!!! bye for now bonsaikathy: great tip NJ canastananny has left the conference. spksgntly2: bye foggy norajean_sf: you don't want the raw clay sheets to stick to the figure until the clay fabric is draped correctly mommaclara2001: Bye icare4bunnies: yes, otherwise you'd have static cling ;) foggy5555 has left the conference. mona_77082: That makes perfect sense! rschneiter1963: what do you mean NJ? raven_hill_wench: I never thought of that icare4bunnies: your clothing doesn't stick to you as you move... hopefully spksgntly2: how thin do you make the cloth? raven_hill_wench: sometimes in the summer my clothes stick to me bonsaikathy: I would think one of the thinnest settings raven_hill_wench: thats pretty bonsaikathy: Bec she means that if you dust the inside of the clay where it will touch the body before using it to make clay cloths it won't stick icare4bunnies: you use premo, right? it's pretty flexible after baking bonsaikathy: NJ I believe only uses premo rschneiter1963: ok thanks bonsaikathy: welcome icare4bunnies: beautiful] raven_hill_wench: fimo soft is pretty bendy after baking norajean_sf: http://www.norajean.com/New_Projects/AbaFoldLady/Index.htm norajean_sf: Links to how to make this clay fabric, the abalone fold is in that web section vlady6us: i love the abalone fold big time norajean_sf: dust the inside of the raw clay fabric when you're draping the clothing. norajean_sf: when you cure the clay it'll be fine. norajean_sf: Now someone had a question about curing faces? norajean_sf: ask it now that I can see it. norajean_sf: please icare4bunnies: me icare4bunnies: do you cure any part of it before posing? mona_77082: How is curing differnt that baking? norajean_sf: Thank you Jael icare4bunnies: same thing icare4bunnies: only with a heat gun norajean_sf: All the figures go in to the oven many times raven_hill_wench: I thought curing was baking norajean_sf: when you check these web sections on sculpting, you'll see that I cure the clay in phases. icare4bunnies: same thing, but I was thinking about using a heat gun norajean_sf: Like with this figure here mona_77082: So curing with a heat gun is like partial curing then? norajean_sf: she was cured, then make up was added to her face and then cured again raven_hill_wench: get something right, hurry and bake it norajean_sf: Cure is to heat set, which can be done in more ways than baking norajean_sf: that's why I use the word cure and not bake norajean_sf: folks have been known to boil clay raven_hill_wench: boil? norajean_sf: heat set it with a heat gun norajean_sf: yes boil spksgntly2: that works? norajean_sf: it can be done raven_hill_wench: so water doesnt affect the clay? norajean_sf: some folks have submerged clay in water, then microwaved it. I wouldn't but some folks do norajean_sf: clay is plastic norajean_sf: oil and water norajean_sf: no problem mona_77082: Ohhhh ok! It must be a delicate operation right! to make sure it isn't heated to long or to hot raven_hill_wench: cool, I still wouldnt want to boil it though norajean_sf: Some folks have cured unwrapped clay in the trunk of their car in a parking lot in a Mall in Texas during the summer. norajean_sf: again I wouldn't recommend that. LOL raven_hill_wench: lol on accident? norajean_sf: on a window sill, by accident norajean_sf: Yes, sad accident norajean_sf: come home with unwrapped clay and it's cured mona_77082: Texas definitely gets hot enough for that raven_hill_wench: on top of my computer monitor rofl norajean_sf: it sure does norajean_sf: so I don't use the word bake when referring to heat setting clay raven_hill_wench: I was so mad about that one norajean_sf: because there's more ways to cure clay than to bake it rschneiter1963: thre is? raven_hill_wench: ok so baking is curing but curing isnt baking norajean_sf: Ok, top of the hour, chat amongst yourselves as you like, I'm saving log and getting coffee for my husband. Brb mona_77082: AFK for a bit here raven_hill_wench: smoke break! lol mona_77082: yep |
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