Orchids WebCam Demo January 14, 2003 Orchid made with Papaya Slices
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dahs512: should I not bug her?
kmrhodes: go ahead and bug her
jude: Yes, bug her.
kmrhodes: I would but it would take forever to get back here
jude: Tell her we took a vote.
dahs512: to bug or not to bug...that is the question, whether ti nobler....hee hee
jude: I can send her a message.
kmrhodes: you funny gal
dahs512: i emailed her
dahs512: Hey Karen, I sure can use that alley goop fast if I don't watch it
dahs512: it is amazing stuff
jude: I did too
kmrhodes: I got a girl who is addicted to it
kmrhodes: she is making molds like crazy
dahs512: I'm making large ones though
kmrhodes: how big
frogger70301: Ahhh, here she comes. I think.
dahs512: I have to limit what masks i use it with
kmrhodes: its fun stuff
dahs512: any so easy
dahs512: it make making multiples so easy
kmrhodes: that too
kmrhodes: how do you like not needing a release agent
dahs512: i have a typing lisp today...
dahs512: love it
kmrhodes: just pops out
dahs512: I'm gonna try making a texture stamp out of a dried portabella mushroom
kmrhodes: Oh that will be cool
dahs512: oh yeah
auntyalias joined the room
kmrhodes: theres the fearless leader
auntyalias: Hey Gang, let me get set up here real quick
kmrhodes: If I wanted to give you a rough thime
kmrhodes: I would say
kmrhodes: Its about time!
auntyalias: I was setting up the SBC Yahoo stuff and it took longer than I imagined and that's why I'm in as AuntyAlias
kmrhodes: whats SBC Yahoo?
jude: How do we know it's really you, then? Hehehehe
dahs512: we can wait
kmrhodes: oh where oh where did out aunty go
kmrhodes: oh where oh where can she be?
jude: Invasion of the Monster Women?
kmrhodes: Fist of Doom
Honey (honeyrivers) joined the room
jakmiami joined the room
kmrhodes: Invasion of the Monster Women.... hmmm is that us?
Honey: HI all - Ellen here
kmrhodes: Hey Ellen
jakmiami: hi all
frogger70301: Hi, Ellen.
jude: Howdy Judith, Ellen.
kmrhodes: hey Judith
kmrhodes: takes me awhile when I don't know your name
Honey: gorgeous orchidees...
kmrhodes: that goes with your handle
jakmiami: Sorry next time i'll introduce myself properly
kmrhodes: no prob
kmrhodes: just have to wait till someone calls you by name
kmrhodes: I'm making a list for myself. LOL
jude: I have a list, too.
jude: I cannot remember names at all.
auntyalias: ok now I'm going to get a cup of coffee, hit the loo and be back, did everyone read the Orchid Facts post?
kmrhodes: sorry teach, the dog ate my homework
jude: Ah,yes...the old dog ate my homework excuse.
Honey: yes - I read it..
kmrhodes: my cat peed on it?
Honey: did it get crushed in your pasta machine?
jude: My dog rips up paper, for real. Drives me nuts. Have to keep it all up away from her.
kmrhodes: Thats IT!!
kmrhodes: was she a stray?
kmrhodes: raised her from little
jude: Yes, she was adopted from her first mommie.
kmrhodes: Maybe she wants to read
jude: I wouldn't put it past her.
kmrhodes: my cats watch tv
kmrhodes: funny as heck
dahs512: I thought I had done my homework, but I just went and read it.
kmrhodes: Teachers Pet Denise!
jude: She doesn't know she was adopted, btw, so please don't tell her.
kmrhodes: Oh, its our secret
jude: Thank you.
dahs512: nanny nanny boo boo
kmrhodes: paws crossed
auntyalias: Ok I got the settings done now and I'll be back in a few minutes. Does everyone have scrap cane to work with?
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auntyalias: who's saving logs, doing screen shots and claying along?
kmrhodes: is that you Jael?
jude: Not today, desk is still a mess.
icare4bunnies: I don't see anything on the webcam
dahs512: I'll do shots and clay along
auntyalias: ok, Jude since you're not claying along can you be virtual scribe, you're so funny
kmrhodes: you should see orchids on the cam Jael
auntyalias: I love your comments
icare4bunnies: nothing is there
jude: I can see now, so can do it!
auntyalias: thanks, now I'll go do my "biologicals" and be back in a tick
jude: Okie, me too!
kmrhodes: Jael what are you doing?\
icare4bunnies: it says the webcam isn't online
kmrhodes: Shes on as auntyalias
kmrhodes: put her on your friends list
kmrhodes: and then try
dahs512: right click on her name and then view webcam
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icare4bunnies: I was looking at the msat name
kmrhodes: get it Jael?
dahs512: I'm gonna use some of my tiger lily cane
icare4bunnies: got it
Honey: Hi Kathy - Ellen here
bonsaikathy: HI everyone
kmrhodes: hey Kathy, that was quick
bonsaikathy: I still have some things to do but will ride along until I get caught up
kmrhodes: I fed the birds, got potatoes ready to bake
kmrhodes: got the cat food ready
kmrhodes: just so I could sit here and learn
kmrhodes: without being disturbed
kmrhodes: now the one cat is trying to get my attention
kmrhodes: by putting his claws into my leg
stargazer_sbpcg joined the room
icare4bunnies: do you have trouble with cat fur in your clay?
icare4bunnies: I have bunny fur everywhere
kmrhodes: I pick it out
auntyalias: Ok Kiddos
dahs512: Hello Kathy, you'll have to give us a peek at the project later that you've been working on...hhmmmmm?
auntyalias: Roll Call, name and location
auntyalias: NoraJean, San Francisco
jude: jude, Tehachapi
kmrhodes: Karen, The Clay Alley , Gettysburg, PA
icare4bunnies: Jael, Champaign (IL)
Honey: Ellen, Irving Texas
dahs512: Denise, Cedar Creek, Texas
bonsaikathy: Kathy in E. TN
stargazer_sbpcg: Jean Sheppard (aka StarGazer), South San Francisco, CA
frogger70301: Mitch, Louisiana
bonsaikathy: Denise, will do that when I get just a little more done, got the mountain finished and painted, not to start adding to it
bonsaikathy: sorry, that's now to start adding to it
icare4bunnies: Karen, I still don't like the premo
icare4bunnies: tooooo soft
jakmiami: Judith K, Miami Beach
kmrhodes: oh Jael
kmrhodes: you make me cry
kmrhodes: boo hoo
icare4bunnies: I really like fimo
Honey: I love the premo <grin>
kmrhodes: too hard
auntyalias: Ok, Karen is in Ghettysburg PA and AFK
icare4bunnies: maybe I really am a hot momma
kmrhodes: what is AFK
auntyalias: There's a couple who are viewing who've not shown up yet
jude: away from keyboard?
kmrhodes: you are a hot moma Jael
auntyalias: I'll save logs, Denise you're doing screen shots and Aunt Jude is absolute right, AFK is away from keyboard
jude: she's here.
auntyalias: Ya, but she didn't do roll call though or I got Old Timer's disease
icare4bunnies: I freeze the cane, and still I have major distortion
jakmiami: who me? sure I did!
icare4bunnies: probably need a new blade
kmrhodes: NJ - you gotta show Jael how to do canes with premo
icare4bunnies: I have seen som
kmrhodes: Yes, thats it. A new blade
jude: I love premo.
kmrhodes: me too
stargazer_sbpcg: me three
Honey: me four
icare4bunnies: but it distorts once I start applying it to my bottles
icare4bunnies: mostly the white and black - they are the worst offenders
kmrhodes: so use the distortion as part of your design
jude: Everyone has their own preferences and that is good.
dahs512: So does everyone know to help with scribing what they see?
kmrhodes: You said it Jude
stargazer_sbpcg: scribing? no
Honey: yes - I'll scribe for as long as I'm here
auntyalias: I just got a boat load of email from 7/28/02 come in just now
auntyalias: if that isn't the weirdest thing
kmrhodes: I'll help with what I know
icare4bunnies: I've had that happen
dahs512: just type what you see so when she reads this later she can see what we saw?
dahs512: Does that make sense?
kmrhodes: NJ, Jaels canes distort
icare4bunnies: I really prefer fimo, especially since I have a pasta machine to condition it
dahs512: I won't be able to do that much typing, due to screen shots and claying along
kmrhodes: okay, you are our Fimo gal
auntyalias: the trick to being virtual scribe is to describe what you see whether you understand it or not
auntyalias: so those who cannot be here with us can see through your eyes
auntyalias: and it keeps me from having to type so much and I can clay more
jude: NJ asked me to scribe, but if anyone else wants to it's fine with me.
stargazer_sbpcg: ah, ok...
dahs512: thanks jude
auntyalias: ok, is everyone comfortable with making canes in general?
stargazer_sbpcg: go for it jude!
auntyalias: stacking sheets to get lines
dahs512: Iwas just trying to let the new ones to help
auntyalias: doing bullseyes and going to lace cane
auntyalias: that sort of thing?
icare4bunnies: I make really nice canes with fimo lol
kmrhodes: I understand how to do it
dahs512: me too
Honey: yes - I pretty much know the basics
auntyalias: because if you are I'm just going to jump into the orchids with both feet. But if you're still unclear about canes we'll do a chevron flip and a bullseye to lace cane first.
stargazer_sbpcg: yes with SIII, Premo, Fimo Soft, and Kato
stargazer_sbpcg: i havent done a chevron flip before...
auntyalias: ok then I'll show you what I'm going to be pulling from ...the mini food cane stash
jude: There was something there and then it disappeared!
jude: This is the way NJ stores her canes.
stargazer_sbpcg: neato! color cooridinated too!
auntyalias: The fruit and vegegable side is better for flowers
auntyalias: the meat and bread side just makes gruesome orchids
icare4bunnies: better than my boxes
jude: Yes, looks like they are color sorted.
icare4bunnies: I have to dig
auntyalias: for those who don't know ...this cane storage is made with free Priority boxes from the post office
auntyalias: priority envelopes covered with foil is the zig zag partitions
icare4bunnies: good job
stargazer_sbpcg: i used to keep my canes in zip-loc baggies...
icare4bunnies: me too
icare4bunnies: or in wax paper
kmrhodes: so Nj you make lots of canes and then just store them?
stargazer_sbpcg: yikes! i did that too...
auntyalias: Now with orchids you can use petals that are of different colors and patterns and add them together and get away with it
icare4bunnies: so do you wrap them before you slip them into their zig zags?
auntyalias: so let's take a couple of canes here and do some orchid moves with them
jude: The work table with some clay.
bonsaikathy: I love the way you have done the partitions, it's a great idea
icare4bunnies: incoming stem!
bonsaikathy: is it tin foail bent in a zig zag
icare4bunnies: is the yellow the center?
jude: Looks like a bullseye cane and a green rope. Can't see what the other is.
auntyalias: Using the Papaya skin lace cane and the Papaya inside we're going to make an orchid by slicing three from one and two from the other
auntyalias: for the 5 petals. The stalk there and the LIP of the orchid will be fussed with later
jude: These are small canes it looks like.
jude: She is taking some slices.
jude: Two slices from the papaya cane.
jude: Now, using her thumbs and fingers she is pinching around the edges of the cane, flattening it.
jude: Stretching it into a petal shape at the same time.
jude: It's almost a tear drop shape.
jude: Now she's doing the other slice.
jude: Same way, using thumbs and fingers and pinching all around the edge.
jude: this flattens it and makes it easier to stretch, too.
jude: she has the other cane now. Can't tell what...
jude: She's using a clay shaper tool, I think.
icare4bunnies: heart shape
kmrhodes: #2 cone clay shaper
auntyalias: brb, door
jude: Yes, she is making a heart shape from this piece of clay.
stargazer_sbpcg: she's going to the door to see who's there... hee-hee
icare4bunnies: should have put "gone claying"
dahs512: Give me a sec to save some of the shots
icare4bunnies: on her door
auntyalias: ok, let me know when you're ready Denise
auntyalias: I'm making this cane into a heart and after I slice off three pieces, with one being thicker than the other two I'll press them flat, see what happens
jude: I can see what she did now. She took another cane and shaped it into a heart. Pinched one side to be the bottom and put a crease in the top.
jude: Now she is bending the papaya petals.
auntyalias: Like tearing paper edge
jude: Shaping them, rolled them slightly so they are bent up at the edges.
jude: Yes, the tearing paper trick.
jude: It thins the edges and makes them look more natural, too.
dahs512: ok ready for more
auntyalias: we'll be doing that paper tear move a lot with these orchids. Is Denise ready?
dahs512: i even got a couple while i was saving
auntyalias: so three slices of the heart shaped lace cane with one being bigger than the rest and then press
jude: Okie, getting some slices of the lace, heart-shaped, cane.
jude: One large and two smaller.
jude: They are going to be put through the pasta machine.
icare4bunnies: it's a dragonfly!
jude: She lays them all into an almost dragonfly shape, with the green rope down the center.
icare4bunnies: more of a dragonfly
icare4bunnies: the papaya slices on the bottom
jude: the lace cane slices are at the top with the papaya slices below.
icare4bunnies: then one big one on top
jude: the large lace cane slice goes at the top like an angel on a Christmas tree.
auntyalias: I love you Aunt Jude
auntyalias: ok we have 6 of the 7 bits we need for an orchid
jude: With wings outspread. Hehehehe
auntyalias: now for the LIP
jude: Now, don't you give us any lip!
auntyalias: which could be big or small or pouched or looking like a female spider waiting for a trist
kmrhodes: lady bug
jude: NJ places a red thingy, just at the base of the big slice, at the top of the green rope.
jude: Ah, yes...it's a red lace cane.
dahs512: got it
auntyalias: good work, Denise, thanks
jude: Red thingy is the technical term for it, however.
auntyalias: ok that's a simple lace cane with white center and red surround on the bullseye
jude: Is that a slice off the red lace cane?
jude: You just took a fat slice?
auntyalias: and I'm thinking I'll add it with something else just to be freaky
icare4bunnies: lol the picture goes dim when nj types
jude: you can't leave well enough alone, huh? Exciting!
kmrhodes: looks like an eye cane
dahs512: looks like any iris
icare4bunnies: alien eye
stargazer_sbpcg: looks like an eyeball 'iris'...
jude: She is going to add a blue thingy. Lace cane with a bullseye in it.
jude: Eyeball cane, yes, could be!
auntyalias: yup, it's from the Folded Cane trick
auntyalias: and I think we can do easier eyeballs with the folded cane trick
kmrhodes: thats a new demo, huh?
auntyalias: let's cut a bit of this and take that lace cane and cut a couple of slices and turn the red lace cane into little bowls
auntyalias: stick them in the center of that green stuff there
auntyalias: and make an interesting LIP
jude: Okie, the red disappeared and then the whole picture went wonky.
jude: There it is...slicing the red cane.
jude: Very small red slices.
jude: she is using her clay shaping tool into the center, pushing it into the center to form a small bowl.
dahs512: need more light, NJ
honeyrivers left the room
jude: Using her fingers now to shape the bowl better.
jude: How to build a better bowl, huh? Good!
dahs512: I'm cussing at your camera NJ
stargazer_sbpcg: it worked!
jude: She is now doing the same with the other red cane slice.
jude: using her clay shaper to form a small bowl.
jude: Then using her fingers to smooth out the bowl.
jude: Make it look nice.
jude: Okie, two red bowls.
jude: Look like eyes staring at me.
jude: Oh...looks like the eyeball cane. Looks like a kiwi, sorta.
auntyalias: Now how did I get that slice to do that?
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icare4bunnies: you looked at it funny
jude: It's magic!
dahs512: stretching the edge
jude: Using the tearing trick?
jude: It's like a fortune cookie.
auntyalias: when you slice the cane
auntyalias: don't slice it straight
auntyalias: slice it so it's a wedge of cane
auntyalias: with more clay at the top and less clay at the bottom of a heart shape
auntyalias: press going first from the point
icare4bunnies: kinda dark
auntyalias: then press sideways for each side of the heart
auntyalias: narrowing the rollers with each press
auntyalias: then paper tear the edges
jude: Oh, neat.
auntyalias: now let's put those red bits on the bend of that LIP
auntyalias: Now we're ready to put the seven bits together into one orchid, are we ready?
jude: Okie, she's picked up the small red bowls and placed them on the eyeball slice she just described.
dahs512: can't see
icare4bunnies: I think my problem is that I never really looked at an iris closely
auntyalias: Denise are you cursing?
jude: Such language!
jude: We are back to the original six shapes (dragonfly).
dahs512: i need a well lite pic of the lip
jude: NJ has the green rope and the red-bowled eyeball cane.
jude: Is placing the green rope on the front with the top of the rope just touching the red bowls.
jude: shaping the petal and pressing it underneath to the rope.
jude: Can't see what she's doing. I think she's adding the other petals, one at a time.
jude: Yes, she is.
jude: The papaya petals are being pressed into the back just below the first.
icare4bunnies: I have to go now, catch you all later
jude: The other petals are added the same way, each in turn, pressed into the back.
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jude: Each overlaps slightly the one next to it and they are placed in the same area as they were laid out in the dragonfly.
jude: She also slightly bent, moved cajoled each into position and formed them more neatly into a petal shape.
dahs512: got it
auntyalias: now we could pull those three top petals and ruffle their edges
auntyalias: 7 bits
auntyalias: and it's an orchid
jude: That is really great.
auntyalias: any flower petal shape or color or pattern can be used
stargazer_sbpcg: very beauteous!!
auntyalias: and Easy Breezy
auntyalias: I'll take questions now
dahs512: I'm gonna go save pics
auntyalias: ok, I'll save log
jude: The red things...when you put them on the petal...I can't see clearly which way you placed them. Bowl side up or down?
jude: Looks like down to me. Okie.
dahs512: got that one too
jude: Although, orchids have it either way, don't they?
auntyalias: There's so many ways to attract pollinators
auntyalias: that's the goal of the LIP to attract something to come in and exchange pollen
auntyalias: now this can be shaped and formed and fussed with more
auntyalias: which I'll do with the upper petals but I wanted all of you to see that it's only 7 bits
auntyalias: any 7 bits as long as you have a stalk, a lip and 5 petals to make an orchid
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auntyalias: Denise are you ready
auntyalias: I got some pictures of exploded Orchids to share
jude: You doing flower abuse?
auntyalias: LOL exactly
auntyalias: in a scrap clay frenzy
jude: Here in CA some of our flowers are protected.
auntyalias: this is going up on PC PolyZine for next month
stargazer_sbpcg: Wahoo!!! (i guess you saw my Feather Cane tute) ???
auntyalias: so are there any questions while I wait for Denise to be ready for the next shot
dahs512: ok, i'm ready
auntyalias: Yuppers Jean we saw your Feather Cane, nifty, use them in an orchid now
stargazer_sbpcg: way cool!!
auntyalias: Thanks Denise, I'd like one pix per example and there's a half a dozen, tell me when you got the shot, ok?
dahs512: make sure you get it lit well
auntyalias: here's the first one all white
dahs512: k, bot it's not very clear
auntyalias: wait up
jude: Can you maybe scan them instead?
dahs512: or digi cam it?
dahs512: k, but it @#@#s
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dahs512: nobody is going to be able to see this #%$^
dahs512: i'll be nice now
auntyalias: try that
dahs512: got it
auntyalias: ok Denise?
dahs512: tell me when
dahs512: got it when it was lit
dahs512: got it
jude: Looks like some kind of weird machinery there in the background. Medical looking, isn't it?
dahs512: book holder?
auntyalias: ok gang
auntyalias: how would you make those petals
dahs512: got it
auntyalias: what technique do you need to use to get that motly spot effect?
dahs512: a version of the fan fold?
frogger70301: no idea.
jude: Looks almost like a pansy petal.
dahs512: with distortion
auntyalias: Put an extra petal on Denise's guessing flower
auntyalias: a verson of the fan fold
auntyalias: get a bunch of snakes
dahs512: stab the cane with a credit card
auntyalias: and don't sweat making them all even
auntyalias: the more uneven the better
jude: Stabbing and snakes? Yikes!
auntyalias: roll out a sheet of white
auntyalias: and stack the uneven snakes in a stack and surround with the white
auntyalias: and stack the uneven snakes in a stack and surround with the white
auntyalias: reduce and take the end of the cane, the raggedy end and cut that off and stack it once
auntyalias: a solid bullseye for the tip, but cut into it with a credit card then surround add to the stacked two sections you've already made
auntyalias: reduce and slice
auntyalias: frill the edges with the tearing paper effect
auntyalias: now the lip
auntyalias: that blend wih spots
auntyalias: that's the fan fold with the blend ribbon
auntyalias: there's some blends that I've shown you with the exploding orchids
auntyalias: so a strong purple can be blended in white with a bright yellow tip and you can get away with it
auntyalias: lips that look like frilly lace cuffs on 17C fops done in spots and stripes and you can get away with it
auntyalias: Now this orchid has petals like a Pansy
auntyalias: and in the center the lip is spotted to look like an inviting lady bug
dahs512: got it
auntyalias: who is saying
auntyalias: copulate with me Big Boy
auntyalias: just to stir up the pollen
auntyalias: Got that picture Denise, I love this one
auntyalias: thank you
frogger70301: that one is gorgeous!
dahs512: got it
auntyalias: Now I wouldn't think of putting Tongues of Fire lace can with a blended pink and white giant lip
auntyalias: with what looks like a wee fairy sitting at the center
auntyalias: fairy makers head's up
auntyalias: for fantasy figures
auntyalias: we can make the center of the orchid little people
auntyalias: and the petals their arms, or wings and the lip their skirt
auntyalias: there's a lot of potential in orchids to build mini scenes inside of a whacked out orchid
auntyalias: I'm saving the log at this point
auntyalias: potty break for those who need it
jude: I have got to go, but will be back later.
jude: Maybe I will rephrase. I have got to leave, but will be back later.
jude: Great demo! I can't wait to try it!