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12-24-04-3: Female Figure |
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Fearless Leader: Third Log, Roll Call Please miss_meme_30: yep Fearless Leader: NoraJean, San Francisco miss_meme_30: wanna see? mommaclara2001: Maybe three? Just kidding. meplus5kids: Jean in New Orleans miss_meme_30: Missy VA Rossija: Of course! alix: Alix, Hickory NC mommaclara2001: Clara, WV analog_ed2001: Eddie in New jersey pasadena_cal: Cal in California chelyha55: Cheryl, Tehachapi, CA Jmouse: Rossija: Mary, Ohio miss_meme_30: sent ya the link mary Fearless Leader: Jmouse, nothing came up for you. Are you typing and we can't see? That happens sometimes. chelyha55: looks like NJ's figure is in the lotus position Jmouse: Jean nancy: nancy and rhoda clatskanie oregon Jmouse: NC Fearless Leader: there ya go, now I can see ya Jean Fearless Leader: Full lotus, it's meditating Jmouse: not sure what happened chelyha55: good thing to do miss_meme_30: nj i made a cute bracelet last night meplus5kids: Hi Jean Fearless Leader: got a link Missy? chelyha55: NJ did you see my note about updating my website? Jmouse: Hi Jean back attcha >S< Fearless Leader: Not yet Cheryl, I didn't get the note chelyha55: www.cherylsart.net miss_meme_30: http://tinyurl.com/3rmzr chelyha55: I just redid it chelyha55: new pics Fearless Leader: can you email me to remind me Cheryl? miss_meme_30: there ya go nj chelyha55: the hummingbirds are up Jmouse: where is the best place to show one's work? chelyha55: sure alix: I quit trying yoga long time ago ... broke a calcium deposit on my spine with plow position Jmouse: if I don't have a web site chelyha55: the pics list is good chelyha55: Jmouse chelyha55: Jean? chelyha55: or Epson seems to be popular miss_meme_30: not good pics but everyone LOVED it today...LOL Jmouse: which one though,,, isn't there a seperate one? chelyha55: the pics list? Jmouse: yes, , Jean >S< chelyha55: www.msatclaypictures.com chelyha55: is that right NJ? Fearless Leader: Missy, it is not coming up right miss_meme_30: dang Fearless Leader: where did you put it? chelyha55: oh no, you have to put the yahoogroups part in Fearless Leader: on the clay pictures list? miss_meme_30: wait i know what it is Fearless Leader: Cheryl, send me the new picture you want with your link in an email so I remember, ok? chelyha55: NJ will give you the nice neat tiny url! meplus5kids: BRB, my 3y/o is running a fever Fearless Leader: Oh no, off to be Mommy chelyha55: me? Fearless Leader: Cheryl, you wanted me to update your link on my site? Fearless Leader: without reading all the chat log I miss a lot chelyha55: oh right, I'll email you later miss_meme_30 left the room chelyha55: it's the same url, I just put up pics of my new goodies is all Fearless Leader: Ok, shall we make this generic figure a male or a female? miss_meme_30 joined the room chelyha55: male who looks like Scott Bakula or Viggo Mortensen Fearless Leader: send me a new picture for your link, you've developed in the last few years mommaclara2001: Female chelyha55: oh ok. chelyha55: you guys get to choose rossija9 left the room chelyha55: with the blue underwear pasadena_cal: I always like females. LOL:"> Fearless Leader: http://tinyurl.com/3rmzr Missy's bracelet link chelyha55: heehee miss_meme_30: that should work! Fearless Leader: So what's the vote count? miss_meme_30: i know its cutesy but i love it...LOL Fearless Leader: we got one for male and two for female? Fearless Leader: anyone else voting on this gender choice? chelyha55: don't count my vote chelyha55: I've seen both alix: female chelyha55: but I don't remember you doing a male lately Fearless Leader: Ok, who does not know about Kemper Cutter tools? Jmouse: a male mommaclara2001: :-> miss_meme_30: male mommaclara2001: I don't. chelyha55: uh oh, male seems to be in the lead alix: hermaphrodite chelyha55: kemper cutters are great Rossija (rossija9) joined the room analog_ed2001: I don't eddie miss_meme_30: wb mary...i got the boot too....lol meplus5kids: I'm back, female chelyha55: they have some great leaf cutters at Michaels too Fearless Leader: I'll be cutting out muscle mass with these leaf shapes, for muscles are often oval or leaf shaped miss_meme_30: ahhhhhhhhh Rossija: I seem to need velcor tonight! chelyha55: break out the velcro! Fearless Leader: Ok, let's do this, since I'm doing both tonight, we can start with the female and then do another one as a male, how's that? alix: are you falling off your chair? chelyha55: I've been painting with clay chelyha55: no she keeps getting booted Jmouse: I have Yahoo , the picture site... but don't see where to enter a picture chelyha55: sounds good chelyha55: did you join the list? Fearless Leader: men and women have different distribution of mass. Rossija: Third time tonight! miss_meme_30: paintin with clay? chelyha55: yeah, liquid clay tinted with pearl-ex chelyha55: the hummingbirds chelyha55: are done that way chelyha55: on my site meplus5kids: Cheryl, can you use the liquid clay with makeup instead of pearl clay? meplus5kids: sorry, pearl-ex alix: What platform you painting on? chelyha55: you can if it's the powder type, yes miss_meme_30: cheryl can u post site again? chelyha55: I'm painting on clay. www.cherylsart.net/newest work.html miss_meme_30: ty miss_meme_30: lol miss_meme_30: its borke miss_meme_30: broke chelyha55: it's on the newest work page miss_meme_30: pop it again? chelyha55: if you go to www.cherylsart.net chelyha55: you can navigate from there chelyha55: brb... miss_meme_30: have to reboot puter...brb meplus5kids: Thanks Cheryl, gotta go play mommy again, brb rjchase222: Well my jester sort of looks like NJ's figure LOL Rossija: Have yu taken pictures yet, Razma? rjchase222: No goin to try & take some manana but having probs gettin them onto my puter!!!! rjchase222: If nothing else he has taught me that I have a long way to go in making figures!! Rossija: I'm uploading pictures of the making of a butterfly wing cane right now.... Rossija: I'll post the link when I get them all there. rjchase222: GREAT!!!!!!! Shannon: I be back :-) Jmouse: Sorry Chelyh, was chating on ICQ with my niece. Yes, I joined the picture site mommaclara2001: Is Samantha happyu? rjchase222: Each time I watch NJ do a figure I get a bit more knowledge into the long term memory!! Shannon: oh yes! she opened her cd/karaoke player.... she's singing... Heaven opened a new coat, and Celeena didn't want to open till morning mommaclara2001: Well great. Shannon: :-D Shannon: is NJ still working on the man? rjchase222: But with my jester & building up his form its all in weird colors from all the dcf's I tried to make!! mommaclara2001: A woman Shannon: ok... thanks Mom rjchase222: Yes she is building him up Shannon Shannon: can't wait to see that jester RJ! rjchase222: OOOOOOOOO a she not a heeeee mommaclara2001: YW rjchase222: My dh just rolled his eyes & walked out of the shop laughing!!!! Shannon: LOL shame on him! rjchase222: Not really as NJ said if it made him laugh then that is what a jester is supposed to do!!!!! rjchase222: But I am the first to admit that my work is kindergartner level!!!! Shannon: LOL that's true! meplus5kids left the room rjchase222: I do much better with flowers now if I can just figure out how to do canes I shld b good to go Houston :) meplus5kids joined the room Shannon: I know what you mean! the pics I sent to the list a little while ago show one of my first attempts at a flower cane :-) rjchase222: I need to get my puter out to my shop so I can follow the tutes!!! Shannon: there ya go! Shannon: get a big extension cord! LOL rjchase222: but have to work on the dh on this one he already got me a tv for out there!! rjchase222: OOOOOOOOOOO thats an idea Shannon!!! Shannon: LOL Shannon: hehehehe yep! get one of those super duper kind the guys use outside... rjchase222: well since I've got cable out in the shop maybe I will get me a laptop!!! Shannon: hey!!! that would be cool@ mommaclara2001: My that looks good, NJ rjchase222: I think I might just try & find me one doesn't have to b fancy just so I can get the tutes for clay!! Fearless Leader: ok, what sort of muscle mass do women have that men don't? alix: Got to go ....family call again ... will check in after Fearless Leader: anyone? alixnc left the room rjchase222: NJ why doesn't my jester look like that? :) Shannon: I know what you mean! Shannon: ummmmm..... Shannon: tummy? LOL analog_ed2001: shoulders and upper body mass chelyha55 left the room Fearless Leader: Men have larger shoulders and upper body mass Fearless Leader: women have more hips Shannon: I was close...LOL Shannon: in my case, it's tummy :-P Fearless Leader: men's upper torso is more like a V and then from the waist to the hips there isn't a lot of difference Fearless Leader: women, ideally, are hour glass Fearless Leader: and the waist, if perfect is 1.6 smaller than the breast and hips Fearless Leader: we're just looking at ideal bodies, not the real bodies that we have Shannon: but who's perfect??? Fearless Leader: women don't have a lot of muscle mass on their backs rjchase222: thats good Shannon cause if we follow nature nothing is perfect............. Shannon: or EVERYTHING is!!! Fearless Leader: but when we're learning how to sculpt, it's a good idea to start out with an ideal body and then move towards realism rjchase222: gotcha NJ!! miss_meme_30 left the room miss_meme_30 joined the room Fearless Leader: ok, ready for the trick of the knees? rjchase222: yes Fearless Leader: pinch the sides of the knee with the leg bent and then push in at the knee cap miss_meme_30: raz did ya see my bracelet? Fearless Leader: Now I built up the back of the leg to make a calf muscle rjchase222: miss meme I'm not sure where wld I have seen it? Fearless Leader: and built up above the knee to make the thighs miss_meme_30: when i do knees they look knobby Fearless Leader: then bend the leg and pinch and press a knee cap Shannon: I need to get me some of those kemper cutters... that would make things easier! miss_meme_30: its missy raz rjchase222: Thanks missy!!!! miss_meme_30: sry thought u were here when i posted the link....lol Fearless Leader: now here's a trick for the elbow. Bend the arm and unbend it, there will be a mashed up area. Smooth that mashed up area, leaving it as an indent. rjchase222: no was in the shower! Fearless Leader: pinch the elbow when the arm is bent rjchase222: kewl NJ miss_meme_30: she makes it look soooo easy Fearless Leader: centaur hair is mashed in the clay Fearless Leader: spines are rarely straight, they have a curve to them Fearless Leader: see Fearless Leader: she seems less uptight with a slight curve to the spine Fearless Leader: now the next bit I do at this point is to smooth out the seams where the leaf cut sections were attached Fearless Leader: but are there any questions at this point? miss_meme_30: not so far Fearless Leader: nice thing about the aluminum foil armature is you can pose it after putting the skin clay on. Jmouse: well, I just posted the creature I did this week for my grandson. it's in the picture site under Jean M.....it was at the very bottom of the list when I was there. Fearless Leader: when you sculpt a figure and start with it already posed it's just more work, cover the skin and get the muscle mass built up with arms and legs extended. Put on clay fabric for clothing and THEN pose the figure. Then Cure. It's a lot easier that way. Shannon: NJ, for the chest and tummy area, did you wrap the coils with more foil? I missed that part... Fearless Leader: just added more leaf shape cuts of skin clay Jmouse: yeah...that's what I just did this week >S< ... will need to try your way NJ rjchase222: NJ I am going to make another jester using these techniques. Shannon: you go girl! RJ! Fearless Leader: her breasts are uneven and she needs more refining for her arms, the seams need to be smoothed out. But she's female and that's no doubt. Jmouse: so it isn't hard to pose the figure when not using wire? Shannon: I thought we were all uneven.... one side of the body is bigger... ;-) Shannon: the foil acts like wire... making it posable :-) rjchase222: NJ just used foil right no wire inside? Shannon: correct Fearless Leader: no wire Jmouse: will do my next one like that rjchase222: well my first jester I did w/wire & foil! heehee Fearless Leader: I end up hurting my fingers with wire poking out. I can't change the pose as easily as with just foil. Shannon: once you have the foil compressed, it bends and holds it's shape like wire would rjchase222: I found that out NJ about gettin poked with the wire!!! Shannon: that's a cute pose NJ Shannon: I can never even get the wire armature to come out right! LOL rjchase222: See now my 2nd jester will at least have one new lesson in it! :) Shannon: LOL Shannon: I can see a whole room of jesters.... like Jesters Anonymous or something....LOL rjchase222: Actually it could be either really scary or neat I'm not sure which! LOL Shannon: Hi, my name is Ralph, and I'm a Jester.... (applause) ;-) Fearless Leader: when we lie down on the floor, there's a gap at the small of our back, if you remember this when you're posing your figures they will look more relaxed, straight backs are uptight. Fearless Leader: ok, I'm going to take a break, save log, refill my coffee cup and get some food. 15 minutes, it'll be 10 past the hour where ever you are, ok? rjchase222: Shannon ROFLMAO rjchase222: OK Shannon: LOL Shannon: ok NJ! Fearless Leader: ok, saving log and off to do biologicals |
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