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Sunday Demo - Log 4 - Bullseye to Fish Scale, To MerDemon |
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Fearless Leader: Fourth Log, Roll Call Please Fearless Leader: NoraJean, San Francisco mommaclara2001: Clara, Glenville, WV donna_stamps: Donna = chilly Silver Springs, NV perceptionsnpc: Ginger in OK Rossija: Mary, Frigid Ohio MountainMaMaDuke: Pauline (MaMaDuke) Marlow New Hampshire frogger70301: Mitch, LA alix: Alic Hickory NC pennyi: penny lansing michigan Shannon: <<--West Virginia alix: LMAO Alix donna_stamps: Is NJ making an arm or a leg? Shannon: an arm mommaclara2001: A hand Shannon: she had too much foil, and had to take some off, and is repairing the clay and getting ready to form fingers donna_stamps: Thanx Shannon: yw! Fearless Leader: give this guy a hand already! Fearless Leader: cue applause sign Fearless Leader: LOL Shannon: =D> donna_stamps: applause, clap clap mommaclara2001: =D> MountainMaMaDuke: yeay yeay ! Shannon: *whistle* Shannon: *wolf call* MountainMaMaDuke: lol Shannon: hehehe perceptionsnpc: =D> Shannon: LOL even the man is applauding!! Fearless Leader: Oh my husband doesn't know where the kitchen is. Brb Shannon: LOL Fearless Leader: Hi Nj, Please say goodbye to everybody, Jannie´s computer is not so good I can not get in again. I will be back home in january 9. but I will keep in toch in the list. Big kisses to you and everybody with a lots of love. Alice Shannon: NJ needs direction signs in her house.... *you are HERE* lol Fearless Leader: now I'll get food for the hubs donna_stamps: mine always makes the turkey for holidays but daughter and I make the stuffing Shannon: AWWWWW..... bye Alice! Shannon: that's cool Donna! Shannon: mine makes a killer spaghetti sauce! donna_stamps: bye Alice - see you in Jan MountainMaMaDuke: my DIL had Roast Beef - did not seem the same ! Shannon: LOL Shannon: no Roast BEAST??? ;-) donna_stamps: he also makes super chili but often too hot for me Shannon: LOL I hear ya mommaclara2001: Mine makes good pan cakes. Believe that, Shan? Kat Indpls IN (kgedrich) joined the room Shannon: LOL Mom donna_stamps: I want him to make me fried potatoes and onions - sooo good MountainMaMaDuke: I don't have a "mine" and I am not much of a cook, but I sure do LOVE POLYMER CLAY ! Shannon: MMMMMMMM I love that Donna! but my hubby hates onions in stuff like that... :-( Shannon: here here!!! Pauline!! donna_stamps: that's sad cause onions makes everything so yummy mommaclara2001: Yes they do. Shannon: I know!!! I always loved them in green beans.... but that's out too MountainMaMaDuke: My son and I did share some shrimps and cocktail sauce for BREAKFAST yesterday though! MMMMMMM so GOOD! donna_stamps: MountainMaMa, We all love poly clay or wouldn donna_stamps: t be her donna_stamps: e MountainMaMaDuke: I hear you! mommaclara2001: Wouldn't be chili, with out the onions. Shannon: t be her or not t be her.....LOL alix: Got to go ... other obligations ... great to see everyone ... NJ, thanks for the snake bead demo ... BIG help xoxox MountainMaMaDuke: bye bye Shannon: no, he can take onions in stuff like that.... thank goodness Shannon: ok... bye Alix! mommaclara2001: Bye alixnc left the room MountainMaMaDuke: brb donna_stamps: Wish I could have had green corn tamales and fried eggs for Christmas breakfast but dont know where to get the tamales anymore Shannon: talking about onions got me thinking of those Bloomin Onions..... =P~ donna_stamps: The ones at Chili's Shannon: hmmmmm.... never heard of that Donna Shannon: we don't have Chili's here, but we get them at Outback perceptionsnpc: Donna do you have taco buenos where you are? donna_stamps: No darn it - grew up in Tucson and had them there but here in Nevada can't find them perceptionsnpc: darn . they have tamales now donna_stamps: yeah, but green corn tamales are different kind of corn and hard to find -- so good MountainMaMaDuke: are we back on the subject of FOOD again? donna_stamps: Did we ever get off MountainMaMaDuke: LOL perceptionsnpc: LOL Shannon: sorry Pauline!!! LOL MountainMaMaDuke: HaHa! kgedrich left the room Shannon: anyone good with canes? miss_meme_30 left the room MountainMaMaDuke: that is my favorite activity! mommaclara2001: doing canes? Shannon: ok, got a question for ya.... I made a bullseye... dark pink, light pink, and white on the outside.... but when I've rolled out a little and cut through it, my circles aren't circles anymore MountainMaMaDuke: I love to make a detail design and see how far down I can reduce it before I lose the pattern Shannon: I'm working on the one for Heaven's cake Mom :-) donna_stamps: I keep trying - got some from Cheryl and they are really nice - mine are getting better but still not great perceptionsnpc: when did you make it shannon mommaclara2001: OK Shannon: a few days ago bonsaikathy: Yes, Cheryl's canes are wonderful perceptionsnpc: put in the the frig perceptionsnpc: let it cool then slice Shannon: ok.... I'll try that! mommaclara2001: Nj, said to put them in the fridge for a while before you try cutting. Shannon: thanks! donna_stamps: Someone said or I read somewhere if you roll the cane after each slice it helps keep circles true bonsaikathy: and I reduced some of hers down the other day and they reduced perfectly bonsaikathy: some of her leaf canes and other designs too MountainMaMaDuke: I was just going to say, it sounds like it was a bit soft and the blade carried down the colors when cutting it Shannon: ok... well this is only my 2nd or 3rd cane.... MountainMaMaDuke: true, Donna bonsaikathy: that's more than likely a plausible reason MountainMaMaDuke: keep trying clayladyinred (what is your name?) Shannon: ok, maybe chilling it will work then... although, if I'm going to sort of flatten it for flower petals, will it matter that much if it goes wonky? Shannon: I'm Shannon :-) MountainMaMaDuke: OK thank you bonsaikathy: probably not Shannon Shannon: yw! Shannon: ok! I'll try both ways! LOL Shannon: thanks guys! Shannon: gals! alice_minis_4all left the room MountainMaMaDuke: it seems that is the essence of polymer clay - just keep trying different things til you get what you are looking for! Some of my best and favorites are mistakes along the way! bonsaikathy: the best thing to do is to cut a couple slices off and try different things donna_stamps: have some stuff to do for daughter before end of week but hope to get some claying done too - youngest grandson when on truck with Mom and Dad so only have 16 yr old to deal with so should be able to try out pasta machine and dcf bonsaikathy: I've read somewhere but don't know if this is true that rolling distorts a cane Shannon: ok! bonsaikathy: better to warm and squeeze a little at a time Shannon: cool Donna! hope you get to! donna_stamps: Not rolling like trying to make snake - more like quarter turn after each slice MountainMaMaDuke: I read a quote just recently; " Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which one to keep!" Shannon: I don't know.... NJ rolls... and squishes Rossija: That's good, Pauline. Shannon: good one! MountainMaMaDuke: I really liked that one! bonsaikathy: ask NJ when she gets back if she can take a piece of cane and show you how she reduces her canes MountainMaMaDuke: good idea! donna_stamps: I read that one too - have a word doc where I put neat quotes like that - call it pearls of wisdom Shannon: cool! MountainMaMaDuke: is she still showing her hubbie which part of the house the kitchen is at! Shannon: must be....LOL Rossija: apparently... MountainMaMaDuke: I do the same thing too Donna Shannon: maybe "showing him the kitchen" is a code word.... ;-) MountainMaMaDuke: ROFL ! perceptionsnpc: =)) Shannon: shame on me!!!! bad Shan!!!! LOL bonsaikathy: my hubby Gary didn't used to know where kitchen was either but now he's not so spoiled, :) mommaclara2001: Yes, Shan! Shannon: LOL bonsaikathy: since we're on different shifts he has to cook or starve Shannon: sorry Mom!!! MountainMaMaDuke: gotta break them in right! mommaclara2001: Oh Shan, I didn't mean to make you go off. Fearless Leader: ok back bonsaikathy: yup you do MountainMaMaDuke: wb NJ Fearless Leader: and you had questions about reducing canes and slicing them? donna_stamps: I'm trying to break in 2 grandson's so they can cook for themselves clayladyinred left the room mommaclara2001: Shan does. Shannon (clayladyinred) joined the room bonsaikathy: she'll be right back I think Shannon: I got booted bonsaikathy: think she got booted Fearless Leader: welcome back Shannon Shannon: thanks! donna_stamps: at least more than just ramen noodles out of pkg mommaclara2001: That will teach you Shan! bonsaikathy: NJ shall we do roll call Shannon: hehehehehe I know Mom!!! Fearless Leader: Sure Bonsai Kathy MountainMaMaDuke: Shannon wanted to know how to reduce a bulleye cane Fearless Leader: NoraJean, San Francisco Shannon: <<--West Virginia meplus5kids: Jean in New Orleans bonsaikathy: Kathy in E. TN mommaclara2001: Clara, Wv perceptionsnpc: Ginger in Owasso Oklahoma Shannon: mine went all wonky donna_stamps: Donna - Silver Springs, Icy Nevada Rossija: Mary, Ohio frogger70301: mitch, LA... still moving this desk around... Fearless Leader: LOL Mitch jude: <---Tehachapi, California MountainMaMaDuke: MaMaDuke in NH Fearless Leader: Mitch is drunk with new space Fearless Leader: SPACE I got SPACE bonsaikathy: Hi Mitch Fearless Leader: Ok, reducing... hmmm, Shannon first tell me how you went about it and then I'll add my two cents frogger70301: yeah, but now I have less than I did with the big one... moving all my storage to where it's handy! frogger70301: hey, hon! Shannon: well I just rolled it.... Shannon: my inside middle color went kinda slantways Fearless Leader: We always end up with 6 x 6 inches no matter how much space we started with. Fearless Leader: Rolled it? Shannon: on a flat surface Fearless Leader: well that's the boggle Fearless Leader: grab the middle of the cane with the FIST OF DOOM Shannon: LOL ok! Fearless Leader: then pull it with both hands going in opposite directions MountainMaMaDuke: YIKES ! the fist of doom strikes again! Shannon: ok.... maybe I can salvage part of it! Fearless Leader: Shall we do a quick bulls eye so I can show you? MountainMaMaDuke: sounds good to me! donna_stamps: yes, please!!!!!!! mommaclara2001: Yes please! Shannon: if you like... :-) hate to interrupt your man! Fearless Leader: then I can show a quick lace cane with that Fearless Leader: Man Interuptus Shannon: LOL bonsaikathy: haha MountainMaMaDuke: gotta do what you gotta do! MountainMaMaDuke: I want to try sometimes tomorrow making a bullseye with transparent and black, then make that into a lace cane. Has anyone tried that yet? Shannon: that sounds neat! MountainMaMaDuke: thought it might come out looking like a spider web bonsaikathy: I have one that I got from Cheryl and it's really pretty Shannon: yeah! donna_stamps: that does sound interesting - might be neat MountainMaMaDuke: hmmmmm, I have been around my grandsons too long this weekend, everything was Spiderman Spiderman! Shannon: LOL MountainMaMaDuke: really Kathy? just thought of it on the long ride home meplus5kids: I can send you a couple of cans of Spiderman Spray my wonderful SIL gave my son for Christmas MountainMaMaDuke: LOL MountainMaMaDuke: that and NINJA TURTLES meplus5kids: The cans are in deep hiding right now bonsaikathy: yes, it's really pretty MountainMaMaDuke: great! MountainMaMaDuke: Cheryl makes wonderful canes! meplus5kids: My 3y/o got everything down to spiderman underwear mommaclara2001: Yes she does. MountainMaMaDuke: I got a few in my Newbie Box donna_stamps: She sure does - I got some of her ends and really enjoying them bonsaikathy: yes her canes are wonderful mommaclara2001: I got some ends from her. I have had so much fun with them. MountainMaMaDuke: is she the woman who also adds animal sketches to her beads? Fearless Leader: now I can't find the handle to my pasta machine rjchase222 left the room MountainMaMaDuke: HELP! bonsaikathy: I've been using them this weekend to make mini platters Shannon: LOL MountainMaMaDuke: I am being so silly today. Blush! Shannon: maybe I need to get Premo.... maybe my clay is just too soft to start with... hmmmmmm MountainMaMaDuke: :"> frogger70301: ahhh, Lene could have took it... she's good at that! mommaclara2001: I put them on hearts, for pins and neckles. MountainMaMaDuke: Shannon, what kind of polymer clay are you using right now? bonsaikathy: I love premo, but shannon, you can over come that in two ways, leach it by putting it between 2 pieces of paper and by putting it in the fridge for awhile Shannon: sculpeyIII Shannon: ohhhhhh.... good idea bonsaikathy: yeah, that's soft bonsaikathy: premo is so much better MountainMaMaDuke: I have used lots of Premo in the past, but my new love is that KATO! Shannon: I was thinking of ordering some.... bonsaikathy: yes Karen is our premo supplier and Rickie Beth and CherylD are our kato suppliers Shannon: I"ve heard good things about both kinds.... Shannon: thanks Kathy! MountainMaMaDuke: Takes a while to warm up and condition the KATO, but the results are so awesome, so little finishing and sanding! Shannon: that's cool... maybe my faces would turn out better with one of them bonsaikathy: I really don't like sanding so avoid it if possible by smoothing pryor to baking MountainMaMaDuke: I am sure! Shannon: me too Kathy MountainMaMaDuke: same here Rossija: I've hear that Kato isn't so good if you're caning & need to further reduce a cane that's been sitting around a while. Anyone have any experience? MountainMaMaDuke: don't like fingerprints either! mommaclara2001: Is Cal still here? Was wondering how he is doing with his clay? Shannon: he appears to be MountainMaMaDuke: I have made several cane progressions with KATO, and with the more firmer clays, I like to warm up the cane for a short period of time in my hands without movement before working it donna_stamps: I've only used Sculpey so far - my beads come out kind of rough - OK for the purpose but sometimes want really smooth and don't want to sand - is roughness inherent in the clay pasadena_cal: been busy eating and cooking. mommaclara2001: Ok. MountainMaMaDuke: SEE GIRLS....all that talk! MountainMaMaDuke: lol Shannon: I'm not sure Donna perceptionsnpc: Donna I tumble my beads in a rock tumbler Fearless Leader: Cal knows where the kitchen is because he's BUFF Shannon: LOL donna_stamps: I'm going to try to get one later this month - should be after holiday sales MountainMaMaDuke: I started with Sculpey III, and soon found out that I wanted to go to a much firmer clay pasadena_cal: Oh Oh when did I become buff??? Fearless Leader: the ladies have to leave chat to cook food for their husbands, you KNOW where the kitchen is, that makes you BUFF donna_stamps: me too, MaMaDuke - got some Premo but haven't opened it yet perceptionsnpc: you'll love it Donna. Got mine at harbor frieght MountainMaMaDuke: ooops! Sorry Cal - ladies and gents! pasadena_cal: Well I - sometimes - cook for wife. as today she volunteers at LA zoo and I made turkey and barley soup. MountainMaMaDuke: I have also tried the FIMO classic and FIMO SOFT. The classic is fantastic for canes, hardly any movement in the clay designs, but too hard for my hands to work up Shannon: I tried the fimo soft... it's too soft for me... Fearless Leader: Cal since you were being so BUFF cooking, what we're doing here is reviewing a bullseye cane and reducing it by pulling rather than rolling MountainMaMaDuke: I tried making canes out of the FIMO SOFT - not bad (better than S3) but my fav right now is KATO Shannon: cool! MountainMaMaDuke: it has so much "body" to it. Some of the well known clay artists in this area do not like the new Kato (they are firm FIMO Classic only) they feel it has a bit of plastic feel and look to it, (not like the matte look to FC) Shannon: hmmmmmmmm Princess (chani69m) joined the room MountainMaMaDuke: every person has their own technique and preference Shannon: hi Princess Fearless Leader: Howdy Do Prince Chani Princess: howdy everyone Fearless Leader: Ok, see this line in the clay here where the edge of the clay sheet touched itself? donna_stamps: for sure - I like S3 for playing but got the Premo so might have better results with canes Fearless Leader: see the line? MountainMaMaDuke: yes Princess: I do Shannon: yep donna_stamps: yes mommaclara2001: Yes Fearless Leader: ok, to get a flush seam we cut inside, but how far inside? Anyone know? perceptionsnpc: yes Shannon: thickness of the sheet donna_stamps: the thickness of the sheet? Fearless Leader: Give the girls a Star MountainMaMaDuke: lol Shannon: :-D Fearless Leader: exactly, you cut inside that line the same thickness as the sheet you're working with. Even if the line is wobbly, cut it wobbly for a flush seam. donna_stamps: :) Princess: what are we making? Shannon: a bullseye cane Princess: oh ok Shannon: I wasn't sure how to condense it Princess donna_stamps: that's a pretty green on the outside donna_stamps: sets off the white nicely pennyi: i have to go grandson challenged me to a game of care bear checkers pennyi: night all pennyi@ameritech.net left the room Shannon: nite Penny! mommaclara2001: Nite donna_stamps: bye Penny donna_stamps: now covering with a layer of white? donna_stamps: looks like outside white is thinner than green was Shannon: yes it does donna_stamps: Now another layer of green - going to make gorgeous lace cane meplus5kids left the room donna_stamps: How do you get seams smooth without makeing too thick or thin in that one spot? Fearless Leader: to cut I roll while I slice donna_stamps: Oh, nice NJ polymerparrot joined the room Fearless Leader: the seams are flush because I cut inside the impression made on the sheet, inside the impression the thickness of the sheet Fearless Leader: that gives you flush seams Fearless Leader: I take a large clayshaper to roll the two sides of the sheet towards the seam Fearless Leader: ok, Shannon MountainMaMaDuke: NICE NJ I like the double core Fearless Leader: to reduce, all I do is take the ends of the cane and pull in opposite directions Shannon: yep! Fearless Leader: pull and turn in you hand and pull and turn in your hand frogger70301: Well, I'm gonna head out and move around... I'm getting stiff... frogger70301: thanks for letting me hang out and watch! Shannon: k.... bye Mitch! Fearless Leader: these two canes started out the same length Fearless Leader: See ya Mitch frogger70301: :-* mommaclara2001: Bye Mitch frogger70301 left the room donna_stamps: bye Mitch Shannon: whoa!!! Shannon: it's perfect! donna_stamps: WOW Fearless Leader: ok, here is a trick donna_stamps: Cutting canes into quarters lenthwise donna_stamps: Reassembling to make scallops? Shannon: that's neat! donna_stamps: Each quarter turned same way Shannon: that would make a good fish tail or mermaid donna_stamps: Looks like she's pressing them into a new log Fearless Leader: now we can reduce this by holding it in a different way. Lay your fingers along the indentations Shannon: that could also make good roof material! MountainMaMaDuke: isn't that COOL Shannon? donna_stamps: Reduced it, cut into quarters and stacked again to make 4 sets of 4 scallops Shannon: yessss!! MountainMaMaDuke: lol donna_stamps: So pretty Princess: that is really neat Fearless Leader: I'll get you a link for this Shannon: thanks NJ! debsdv joined the room Princess: I will have to try that when I get my clay back Shannon: hi Deb! Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Faux/FishScale/Thumb-grp debsdv: Wow I did it. Woo Hoo Fearless Leader: Howdy Deb donna_stamps: Great dragon scales in green/gold with lots of translucent Fearless Leader: Is this your First Time Deb? Shannon: oooooh that would be Donna! debsdv: Yes. I've never been able to get in . miss_meme_30 joined the room Shannon: Cool! First timer!!! MountainMaMaDuke: welcome DEB Fearless Leader: ok, do you know how to open cam? Shannon: wb Missy Rossija: wb missy Fearless Leader: open my cam? debsdv: I've been able to view the cam. I have it up now. Fearless Leader: Oh you got it already debsdv: The chat alluded me lol Rossija: mugging! donna_stamps: first times - NJ gets to mug her!!! Princess: welcome Deb jude: Yikes! meplus5kids joined the room MountainMaMaDuke: you need to get NJ's famous welcome! Fearless Leader: I got zero embarrasment Shannon: I stuck my cane in the freezer.... I now have a VERY stiff cane! LOL Fearless Leader: welcome back jean debsdv: That was awesome. Needed a laugh. MountainMaMaDuke: ROFL NJ debsdv: What are you making? Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Faux/FishScale/Thumb-grp Fearless Leader: let's press some of this on a sheet and see what we get, ok? Rossija: cool! meplus5kids: I'm trying to stay in Shannon: tip.... cold canes *snap* LOL but hey... it's a circle inside!!! yay!!! Rossija: Fabric for one of the people? MountainMaMaDuke: keep the cane in the freezer for about ten minutes? donna_stamps: fish scale cover for tin? Shannon: yep about that miss_meme_30: man i missed the cane donna_stamps: That's what I do with my attempts at canes, Shannon Shannon: it seemed to help! MountainMaMaDuke: cane making is so much fun to me donna_stamps: it does, esp with S3 Shannon: Missy I got shots of it Shannon: LOL yeah, Donna! miss_meme_30: ty!!!! Shannon: there must be a big difference in clays though, if NJ can go straight from making, to reducing, to cutting... and it holds it's shape... even under the hot lights MountainMaMaDuke: you bet! Shannon: I think I'm going to be contacting Karen! donna_stamps: That's why I bought Premo = S3 so soft have to pop in freezer before cut because I'm to impatient to wait til next day Shannon: LOL no doubt! donna_stamps: covered sheet with fishscale slices then thru pasta machine - so neat Rossija: awesome! Shannon: and no bubbles to be seen! Shannon: thanks NJ! donna_stamps: wonder if it matters which way thru machine Rossija: It might... More distortion if "against the grain" I would think donna_stamps: be interesting to try both directions with 2 sections of sheet to see which way you like better MountainMaMaDuke: I like to send mine through the pasta machine all four directions to keep the pattern completely still Shannon: good idea donna_stamps: great idea, MaMaDuke MountainMaMaDuke: it works for me :"> donna_stamps: the distortions might be interesting tho MountainMaMaDuke: sometimes it is! MountainMaMaDuke: depends on what is your fancy at the moment donna_stamps: so now the man is going to become a merman MountainMaMaDuke: he was getting chilly waiting for us to get back to him! donna_stamps: don't blame him - I'm freezing Rossija: I think this may be the gargoyle from Halloween time.... Fearless Leader: MerDemon Shannon: LOL MountainMaMaDuke: so am I, going to be leaving pretty soon to start up my woodstove - get some REAL heat in my little cabin miss_meme_30: lol donna_stamps: =)) Shannon: LOL MountainMaMaDuke: very COOL NJ! Shannon: that was great! donna_stamps: has he been cured yet MountainMaMaDuke: my guess, probably not if she is still working with him! donna_stamps: sometimes she cures several times as makes additions Rossija: I think she JUSt now bent his legs to sitting... MountainMaMaDuke: true! donna_stamps: You're right - can't have been cured!! donna_stamps: check out the shoulder pads Fearless Leader: all dressed up and no where to go donna_stamps: He's awesome - so fierce and wicked looking MountainMaMaDuke: while I am watching NJ work up her cane, I am putting together that idea of the black and translucent Premo clay to make a lace cane out of it next Shannon: oh wow! MountainMaMaDuke: I just got so inspired while watching her! donna_stamps: will you post pix when done? Sounds totally cool! rossija9 left the room Rossija (rossija9) joined the room jude: Shoulder pads or epaulets? Shannon: wb Mary! miss_meme_30: wb donna_stamps: epaulets just across top of shoulder Rossija: Drat! Apparently my dialup connection has a 4 hour time limit! Fearless Leader: time for DSL Shannon: LOL hate when that happens! MountainMaMaDuke: sure look for MaMaDuke folder at the MSATClayPictures yahoo group jude: Ya, you're right, Donna. MountainMaMaDuke: in a few days Rossija: He's looking good, NJ! Fearless Leader: Ok, from a bullseye, to fish scale, to pressed sheets, to MerDemon Tail donna_stamps: I will--can't wait to see if makes spider web when you lace it Shannon: thanks so much NJ! MountainMaMaDuke: me too ! Fearless Leader: don't spend weeks pencil chewing, just go for it Fearless Leader: Let's do the lace cane Shannon: I'm going to get some good clay.... or leach mine.... Shannon: oh NJ.... top of the hour? donna_stamps: do both!!! MountainMaMaDuke: there you go Shannon Fearless Leader: Oh Yikes, got to save log and go out and come back, thanks Shannon Fearless Leader: brb Shannon: yw |
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