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Biz-Archive/Chop/LayeredBeads-how2 norajean_sf: Ok, I'm going to take the coleus leaf and the leaf cane that were made this week end norajean_sf: and do a layered Natasha bead with them. norajean_sf: But first I need to save log norajean_sf: you all can pop to the loo, get some food and drink and we'll meet back here in 10 minutes leasbeadheaven: ok. brb rschneiter1963: okey doke blank274 has left the conference. norajean_sf: back rschneiter1963: ok norajean_sf: chime in folks so I know you're back too rschneiter1963: ding norajean_sf: LOL norajean_sf: perfect babasbunja: here Yahoo! Messenger: hlynn1975 has declined to join and sent: No, thank you. kamoe23: jep merrie60us: back leasbeadheaven: i'm back norajean_sf: ok, that's a majority norajean_sf: Earlier I was asked if I use the food processor to chop the clay for these beads norajean_sf: sometimes, but not always. norajean_sf: I prefer to chop them with a tissues blade. rschneiter1963: when you chop how fine? norajean_sf: Check this picture please.. Biz-Archive/Pens/AnimalChop-005 curika1 has joined the conference. curika1: Hi! merrie60us: cool merrie60us: Hi You have invited curika1 to view your webcam. curika1: thanks for asking me :) norajean_sf: I just asked folks to look at this link Biz-Archive/Pens/AnimalChop-005 norajean_sf: this is what we're going to do with the coleus leaf and the green leaf from this week end merrie60us: oh good merrie60us: should turn out nice curika1: definitely~ norajean_sf: to do this sort of layered chop bead... Biz-Archive/Chop/LayeredBeads-how2 norajean_sf: and I'll start now that you've looked at those pages. merrie60us: I just want to let you know that in 30 minutes I have to go drive carpool and will be back after curika1: k merrie60us: cutting colius cane into slices merrie60us: not too thin...the slices curika1: about 1/8 or 1/4"? norajean_sf: You know I don't measure stuff norajean_sf: LOL curika1: lol merrie60us: probably does not matter curika1: rofl melodyhill2000 has joined the conference. merrie60us: now cutting leaf cane into slices You have invited melodyhill2000 to view your webcam. curika1: wish I could get my head out of measuring stuff lol - (a little on the anal side :o) seafibers has left the conference. merrie60us: makes life a lot easier and get more surprises when don't measure exactly merrie60us: I used to be like that no more curika1: i know merrie60us: two piles of chop curika1: that's why i wish i wasn't like that... it's so hard to learn to undo that in me, you know? curika1: i'm getting there - kind of lol merrie60us: yes I understand took me many many years merrie60us: but remember hand made is not machine made and has imperfections merrie60us: that is part of its beauty rschneiter1963: what is she doing now? kamoe23: God to hear that merrie60us: mixing chop curika1: yes... ok, just putting it on top... curika1: ahhh, not just on top norajean_sf: ok just compress to get the air out curika1: k norajean_sf: don't twist, pull, stretch or anything other then compress the air out merrie60us: green on top and other cane on bottom norajean_sf: we want to keep the design elements to stay true merrie60us: hmmm curika1: that's what i thought... cool merrie60us: compress air means to push right norajean_sf: cut in half merrie60us: width wise curika1: cpp; norajean_sf: and stack curika1: cool melodyhill2000: what is she making? merrie60us: what iscpp? norajean_sf: and continue to compress merrie60us: a chop bead norajean_sf: Biz-Archive/Chop/LayeredBeads-how2 rschneiter1963: how y ou kinow you got the air out? merrie60us: is it sort of compressing pushing? rschneiter1963: dont know curika1: yes - evenly all over merrie60us: thanks curika1: yw :) curika1: i love your pc mind, nj :) you are so original! One day... one day... lol norajean_sf: Now I'll cut this, ideally you're going to cut a block that's going to be the size of your bead merrie60us: ooh norajean_sf: but I'm going to do it larger than usual so you can see merrie60us: can't wait to see curika1: that's so pretty merrie60us: love the colors curika1: oh, wow! norajean_sf: you could make a pendant if you stopped here curika1: that's beautiful! norajean_sf: but we're going to cut both halves again norajean_sf: and open them like a book merrie60us: love it curika1: kind of like a natasha bead? norajean_sf: It is a Natasha bead but with a difference curika1: look at that! especially the one on the right norajean_sf: we use our best canes norajean_sf: we don't twist the clay rschneiter1963: see them tiny holes? curika1: that's probably the diff, why mine don't look so good rschneiter1963: how do you fix that? curika1: yes norajean_sf: we layer the different cane chop carefully norajean_sf: Hold on Ladies, we're not done yet merrie60us: just love it rschneiter1963: ok curika1: me too :) curika1: i'm not going anywhere lol norajean_sf: we take these two halves and put them back to back and the sides will match up, then you'll have four mirror images rschneiter1963: I am jsut trying to get white not to mix with red lol curika1: oh wow leasbeadheaven: wow. those colors are real intense curika1: that doesn't occur with the natasha beads either curika1: - not 4 mirror images like that rschneiter1963: what she doing now? curika1: evening it out curika1: getting rid of bumps etc curika1: beuatiful rschneiter1963: ok merrie60us: I can't wait to see this finished curika1: and seams curika1: llok at that! curika1: that's gorgeous! melodyhill2000: natasha beads should work out this way if you cut them the same way merrie60us: I always have trouble blending the seams merrie60us: coming out very nice curika1: that really takes patience merrie60us: hmmm patience something I am lacking a lot of merrie60us: trying to get more curika1: me too... but it's another thing i'm working on lol merrie60us: :D norajean_sf: ok, that's it curika1: beautiful! curika1: i love it merrie60us: very nice rschneiter1963: I am still working on air bubbles lol but it is pretty NJ melodyhill2000: very pretty! kamoe23: Looks very nice leasbeadheaven: me too! babasbunja: spectacular merrie60us: colors are so beautiful norajean_sf: From here I'll take it off this turkey skewer and put it on the bamboo skewer where it will be cured, wet sanded, a finished applied and then stored until I want to string it curika1: the big thing to remember is no twisting!!! merrie60us: I like it better than the natasha merrie60us: more control kamoe23: Will be my next project;;) curika1: me too rschneiter1963: when you take if off this skewer and put it on the other to cure merrie60us: me three rschneiter1963: do you put them on a rack in the oven? curika1: so you use your best canes with this - NOT scraps at all, right? norajean_sf: it stands to reason that if you use your best cane norajean_sf: the result will be better than if you used scraps norajean_sf: but this is one way to redeem bad cane efforts curika1: true... melodyhill2000: is this a "bad" cane-looks good to me nndewbre has joined the conference. merrie60us: how much do you mix up the cut up canes You have invited nndewbre to view your webcam. merrie60us: a lot or not much norajean_sf: Merrie, you eyeball it merrie60us: or does not matter curika1: doesn't look like she's mixing them up to me - just pushing them together rschneiter1963: what is she doing now? smoothing? nndewbre: hello everyone rschneiter1963: hi curika1: yes, and compressing it all curika1: hi leasbeadheaven: hi curika1: shaping it norajean_sf: ok, what if you need a lot of little beads norajean_sf: do you want to be doing the natasha construction on a bunch of little beads norajean_sf: just to make yourself crazy? curika1: rofl curika1: so... what DO you DO? lol countrylady100ca has joined the conference. You have invited countrylady100ca to view your webcam. norajean_sf: you do a natasha contruction on a log curika1: hi norajean_sf: Yeah Sonya it worked! countrylady100ca: Thanks norajean_sf: What I'm showing here is the Natasha Log curika1: it's beautiful norajean_sf: Biz-Archive/Chop/Natasha/ScrapLogs norajean_sf: Biz-Archive/Chop/Natasha/Kente-CloseUP norajean_sf: Check those out to see some Natasha logs, how big the bead depends on how much of the log you cut off norajean_sf: simplify your life norajean_sf: reduce clay stress norajean_sf: Now I'm going to take this tiger chop and do a tiger natasha log countrylady100ca: I image it might look like NJ Angel :D curika1: making sure it's aligned correctly merrie60us: be back in about a half hour hope you are still here. curika1: k bye nndewbre: Oh man, I just looked at the ones on the website and thought "how does she get that pattern". I don't think of the simple solution. Shoot. curika1: lol norajean_sf: now let's cut some beads off of this natasha log norajean_sf: just pinch one end first, then cut norajean_sf: now we cut norajean_sf: now we skewer melodyhill2000: i've never thought about making a long long for multiple beads-i always make one bead at a time-duh! norajean_sf: now we form the other end curika1: me too melody curika1: this is so much simpler melodyhill2000: yes-can't wait to try curika1: so, pinch, cut, skewer, shape, pinch cut skewer shape curika1: cool leasbeadheaven: i love this technique. will have to give it a try curika1: me too! nndewbre: Now I have to hurry up and do some projects so I can get some scrap so I can do a bead log......8-} norajean_sf: Easy Breezy Ladies norajean_sf: keep your life simple curika1: no chit! lol norajean_sf: With keeping the beads on the bamboo skewer we don't have piles of loose beads rolling around leasbeadheaven: has anyone used the bead rollers? or are they not necessary? norajean_sf: we can pick designs and colors that go together while they are still on the skewer curika1: i've got some... too hard to use - norajean_sf: make natasha logs and cut off as much bead you need in that color family curika1: cuz of trying to figure out the EXACT amount of clay to put on them norajean_sf: As for bead rollers... curika1: crap i think lol norajean_sf: Some folks have the money to spend on extra tools curika1: and they sit in the ;drawers norajean_sf: My tutes and techniques assume we're all as broke as the Ten Commandments norajean_sf: we don't have extra money to spend outside of clay curika1: lol we ARE! leasbeadheaven: i love that philosophy! norajean_sf: also that we're so busy we don't know whether to piss or go blind curika1: rofl nndewbre: I like the way you think NJ norajean_sf: so we got to have techniques that are cheap and easy curika1: why haven't you written a book yet? norajean_sf: LOL curika1: you have it all on all your web sites! leasbeadheaven: do you put it in the toater while on the bamboo skewers? don't they burn? norajean_sf: it's free on the website leasbeadheaven: i mean toaster norajean_sf: I use the kitchen oven. curika1: lol nj curika1: i do too curika1: nope - as long as it's 275 won't burn leasbeadheaven: great! melodyhill2000: hate to chime in here-but i have all the bead rollers and i do like them-but only for the special shapes-round is easier to do with my hands nndewbre: She doesn't have time to write a book she has to do demo's.:) curika1: how do you get EXACT amt of clay? norajean_sf: If one is scared to use the kitchen oven then I do suggest using oven bags, the kind that you can do a roast in curika1: i use a roasting pan with a lid norajean_sf: Melody, if you find the bead rollers handy that's great norajean_sf: I can't assume that those who visit my site have the extra resources for tools. norajean_sf: The most expensive tool I use are clayshapers curika1: i've tried the rollers - takes too long trying to figure out the clay - norajean_sf: or the pasta machine and food processor, both of which were got either free or on sale curika1: mine too leasbeadheaven: i've inherited an old toaster from my son's apartment thats too cruddy looking for him to use norajean_sf: I'm not saying that bead rollers aren't useful, I'm sure they are curika1: except - i have pre-ordered for the new teflon pasta machine curika1: it's going to go for $49.99 nndewbre: what are clay shapers, tools like the one you shaped the holly leaf with? melodyhill2000: i play around until i get a bead that is just right-then i weigh it on a postal scale and then duplicate that amount. of course it might be easier if i would write each one down and not have to reinvent the wheel each time LOL curika1: lol curika1: that's an idea, melody... lol norajean_sf: I use the clayshapers and tissue blades a lot curika1: i don't know what i'd do without my clayshapers curika1: white, black and gray - each color represents a different hardness/softness norajean_sf: they were expensive for my budget but I couldn't get around them norajean_sf: it took me a year to find a pasta machine on sale curika1: well, i only have 3 nndewbre: That looks kinda like my "wipe out" tool for painting. norajean_sf: the big black one is a color shaper and is hard tipped rschneiter1963 has left the conference. curika1: i've never found one at good will, or garage sales, but lots of people have vlady6us has joined the conference. You have invited vlady6us to view your webcam. norajean_sf: Hey Sandie nndewbre: what do you mean "color shaper"?? vlady6us: hi everyone. thanks nj. vlady6us: i fell asleep norajean_sf: Color shapers are for moving paint norajean_sf: I use it to move large hunks of clay when sculpting curika1: i never knew that... just thought they were for clay shaping, and to make seamless curika1: lol norajean_sf: just like we don't use a shot gun to shoot a fly or a tooth pick to move an elephant, we need the right size tool for the job curika1: lol yep norajean_sf: I've broken off the top of small clay shapers moving large hunks of clay for sculpting vlady6us: thats not good....lol curika1: lol norajean_sf: I got to save log, top of the hour, good time for a stretch to avoid numb bums norajean_sf: brb | ||
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