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11-15-03: DemoLog-3, Making the MerBlue Male figure and the baby. Discussion on how baby's faces are different from adults. |
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emato: here too -- the gang is
waiting meows3xx left the room emato: ok! nora_gatine: brb in 20 minutes Betty: in 20 min, then liteladi left the room Betty: lol Betty: brb...in 20 emato waves at emato emato: well that didn't work ... LOL emato Applauds nora_gatine emato: C U in a while! (computer gods and goddesses willing) emato2 left the room bettyintennessee left the room Betty (bettyintennessee) joined the room Roni (meows3xx) joined the room nora_gatine: Said went out to get me something to eat nora_gatine: I'm still waiting for him to get home. Betty: Okay, NJ. No rush nora_gatine: Roni, the screen shots are in the Epson album nora_gatine: and I sent an invite to the list for folks to see Roni: cool, now I'll go do the one's from yesterday, I think I got a lot on how to make the armature julia_dodge: Bushes beans and pot beef pot pie...yumm Roni: darn, I forgot, can't get the ones from yesterday cause I didn't do it right! next time lol nora_gatine: I got to write a grocery list for James, brb Betty: k julia_dodge: ask for cranberries and oranges meows3xx left the room Betty: Planning cranberry salad for Thanksgiving, Teddy? liteladi (liteladi) joined the room Betty: Betty: Hi, Penny julia_dodge: you got that rite Betty: yummm julia_dodge: has to age for a week Betty: Sounds like my mom's recipe julia_dodge: cranberry-orange relish Betty: Oh, yes. That's the word julia_dodge: I glase the ham with it too Betty: That sounds good Betty: My kids might not eat it, if I do that though! LOL. They are so picky liteladi: hi warmed up a porkchops and some greenbeans. NOw i have to vaccumm brb sewdaisy2001 joined the room nora_gatine: I only have Betty and Julia on my cam list julia_dodge: hi sewdaisy sewdaisy2001: Hi Teddy, NJ julia_dodge: I stayed on so no problems this time nora_gatine: Quick roll call, first name and location please nora_gatine: NoraJean, San Francisco Betty: Betty Nashville TN julia_dodge: Julia aka Teddy, homosassa, Fla. sewdaisy2001: Sheri,Ohio nora_gatine: Sheri what I'm doing now is sculpting a man's face. The Blue MerMaid needs a friend Betty: Penny or Liteladi is vacuuming LOL sewdaisy2001: Blue Mermaid? - is that the armature you worked with last nite? julia_dodge: she's doing the (W) or (C) word nora_gatine: oooh food's here, let me take a few quick bites and all y'all can get to know one another. I'm starving sewdaisy2001: enjoy! Betty: Don't Rush, NJ nora_gatine: I'm burping nora_gatine: LOL nora_gatine: when you're hungry the plainest burger tastes good Betty: LOL, NJ Betty: You aren't rushing, are you? nora_gatine: Said brought me burger with cheese on a french roll with mustard and pickle and that's it. It was scrummy nora_gatine: because I was really hungry nora_gatine: LOL Betty: LOL julia_dodge: put slice tomatoe and lettice on it, canifornia burger nora_gatine: When I found myself wishing for tomato, lettuce, avacado and mayo nora_gatine: I figured I wasn't hungry anymore but eating for entertainment nora_gatine: LOL Betty: LOL nora_gatine: so I'm back and before I get back to sculpting this man nora_gatine: he's going to need a fish bottom nora_gatine: and we need to build some cane and press sheets julia_dodge: I was born in California, undre advacato tree nora_gatine: I was thinking of chevron flip in silver and blue like this Betty: That would be pretty nora_gatine: so depending on whether you want to see sculpting, or cane building and sheet pressing... I'm up for both for both need to be done... nora_gatine: it's just a toss up which way we go from here julia_dodge: I don't have a coin Betty: I'm into sculpting, but want to use all of it, so Flipping a coin would be good julia_dodge: betty has a coin nora_gatine: one no vote and one for sculpting nora_gatine: we got another vote missing nora_gatine: That's Sheri Betty: hmmm, if I wasn't so broke I might have a coin! LOL sewdaisy2001: It is all so new - I want to learn it all nora_gatine: No fair, Sheri nora_gatine: you have to choose, sculpting or cane building to prep his tail nora_gatine: LOL Betty: I'd like to see another fish tail Betty: merman tail julia_dodge: NJ has a coin Betty: so I win? Betty: lol nora_gatine: Betty you want to see it all, which one first? nora_gatine: I'll use this trick penny nora_gatine: LOL nora_gatine: ain't that a gas? Betty: nora_gatine: make your minis look microscopic Betty: LOL!! Kewl! julia_dodge: wow sewdaisy2001: LOL Betty: There was a joke on Ellen Degeneres about Pennys on ebay julia_dodge: pocket change nora_gatine: So heads we sculpt and tails we do MerMan Tails nora_gatine: how's that? nora_gatine: ready? julia_dodge: go Betty: Ready! sewdaisy2001: ready nora_gatine: I'll twirl it and see which way it goes, but I promise not to sculpt Abe Lincoln on the MerMan nora_gatine: that would be just so wrong nora_gatine: LOL Betty: Thanks! LOL julia_dodge: heads nora_gatine: looks like we sculpt a face Betty: Merman Tails Betty: or face is good nora_gatine: Abe is a good example of a man's profile actually liteladi: im back vaccumm broke Betty: Is that good or bad, Penny? LOL Betty: Good you're back, anyway liteladi: well bad really the belt is broke onit again Betty: oh, really bad Betty: sorry liteladi: but i swept with it best i could LOL liteladi: just another thing that went wrong. Im glad this week is over I have had enough. someone else can have the bad week now julia_dodge: I have a Bissel sweeper, no belts on it liteladi: lucky Betty: No thanks, Penny. I've had my own liteladi: sure ill be happy to share julia_dodge: I fell yesterday and hurt my shoulder so I got to rest today Betty: oh, I'm sorry, Teddy liteladi: i had the second mammogram on friday now next friday i have an ultrasound done Betty: I hope it turns out okay liteladi: me too. julia_dodge: wasn't too bad, just tripped in a hole out side and fell in the dirt liteladi: well falling is bad enough Betty: He looks good, NJ julia_dodge: ya, hurt my dignaty Betty: We get holes in our yard. I've tripped like that going to the mailbosx Betty: mailbox Betty: It hurt mine too liteladi: that looks like the phanton of the oprea julia_dodge: I should watch where I walk, I was looking up at a bird nora_gatine: Ok, did you see that last move? nora_gatine: I added a "tear" of clay nora_gatine: for I needed more cheek bone and cheek liteladi: yup to small splotches of clay for cheeks julia_dodge: looks good NJ nora_gatine: there's a V that is upside down, starting from the center between the eyebrows and going along the side of the nose nora_gatine: we need some mass for nostrils and lips sewdaisy2001 left the room sewdaisy2001 joined the room Betty: So you just added some triangles on the sides and blended and added nostrils? liteladi: ill never be able to do that Betty: Never say never liteladi: hmmmm julia_dodge: he would be a strong kisser Betty: lol liteladi: dont you love that kurt douglas chin Betty: Or Michael Douglas, too! Like father like son liteladi: of course Betty: He's more my age, although he married that Katherine lady..Don't know what he sees in her! LOL liteladi: im thinkin hes more my age too. yeah shes a young one Betty: Yep. It will catch up with them some day Betty: Oh, wow, NJ! nora_gatine: let's do that nose right nora_gatine: triangle lump of clay nora_gatine: should look triangular from every angle nora_gatine: bottom of the nose is one eye width wide nora_gatine: check out this page, let me get you the link Betty: Thanks nora_gatine: http://www.norajean.com/Biz-Archive/Sculpt/Index.htm Betty: Noses have been my trouble nora_gatine: check out the face covered with eyeballs nora_gatine: second picture liteladi: got it Betty: Me too..Thanks! sewdaisy2001: intersting nora_gatine: door Betty: k nora_gatine: it was Hilda nora_gatine: my 95 year old neighbor, I empty her garbage because the door to the garbage chute is too heavy nora_gatine: so, did you see how the nose is a triangle when looked at from below nora_gatine: from the front nora_gatine: from the side Betty: Yes nora_gatine: different types of triangles, but it's a trick one can use julia_dodge: yes nora_gatine: the nostrils are the last thing you do sewdaisy2001: saw that - now to remember nora_gatine: the bottom of the nose is one eye width wide nora_gatine: there's that upside down V starting from the center between the eyebrows and that's your line for the side of the nose Betty: I just measured my eye and nose. It worked! How 'bout that nora_gatine: So there he is nora_gatine: definately male Betty: Yes, Definately liteladi: yup nora_gatine: men have different foreheads nora_gatine: wider jaws nora_gatine: women's faces have curved jaws, compared to men nora_gatine: now if you find a woman with a strong jaw nora_gatine: her brother's jaws are even stronger julia_dodge: is that five o'clock shadow? nora_gatine: it's relative, nora_gatine: meaning it depends on who your relatives are nora_gatine: LOL liteladi: lol Betty: LOL nora_gatine: I'm still laughing over here nora_gatine: it's such an old joke and it slays me each time I type it julia_dodge: sorry, I got gigglies Betty: I do too Now liteladi: giggles are allowed Betty: I need giggles liteladi: me too julia_dodge: rockabybaby nora_gatine: speaking of babies nora_gatine: let's do a blue baby face and go over those moves nora_gatine: for the baby face had a different grid Betty: oh, Great! Betty: Do I have time to refill coffee? nora_gatine: yes, I have to make a head armature Betty: k..brb Betty: back nora_gatine: there's the baby armature nora_gatine: the head is bigger in proportion to the body nora_gatine: the arms and legs are shorter nora_gatine: so let's get him a blue skin cover and then we can sculpt the face Betty: Okay julia_dodge: good nora_gatine: ok, with the adult face nora_gatine: if you draw a line across the middle nora_gatine: that's where the eyes are nora_gatine: with a baby face nora_gatine: when you draw that middle line nora_gatine: that's where the hair line is nora_gatine: it's the line under the mid point where the eyes will be located nora_gatine: babys have huge foreheads nora_gatine: we are born when we are with the bones not connected because that's as large as the brain can grow nora_gatine: and still be born safely nora_gatine: the brain doubles in size in the first two years nora_gatine: that's why the skull isn't connected, it has to over lap to get out of the birth cannel nora_gatine: and then open up for the brain to grow before getting hard and solid nora_gatine: so baby's heads are really big compared to the rest of the body for it is the brain's importance to our development that has to be given room to grow nora_gatine: the body will catch up nora_gatine: that's why nutrition in the first couple of years is so important sewdaisy2001 left the room nora_gatine: for there can be nutritional retardation that can't be fixed that manifests when there's not the right foods for the developing brain nora_gatine: there's no going back to fix it either nora_gatine: so let's grid off this baby's face and see who it wants to be liteladi: now that guy you made NJ he looks like john luc nora_gatine: he got that Jean Luc nose for sure nora_gatine: now see how I moved the eye sockets down on the grid for the baby's face nora_gatine: without any more detail we know it's a child nora_gatine: what's the most important thing a baby has to do? nora_gatine: to stay alive? julia_dodge: suck milk nora_gatine: and to do so you need which muscles? liteladi: mouth liteladi: ???? Betty: cheeks nora_gatine: and nora_gatine: yes, cheeks liteladi: oh yeah thats right nora_gatine: so the nose then has to be small as not to get in the way as well, right? julia_dodge: rite Betty: Right liteladi: works for me julia_dodge: heee hee nora_gatine: so let's give this baby some cheek and see how it turns out nora_gatine: ok, fat baby cheeks Betty: Cute nora_gatine: the mouth is little as is the chin liteladi: very cool Betty: oh, that is awesome liteladi: now i know i couldnt do that nora_gatine: so there's the baby in rough draft julia_dodge: nice family nora_gatine: but you see how you have to approach the baby face differently liteladi: yeah ok so whats going to happen to the little family nora_gatine: Daddy is going to get a fish bottom once his body is sculpted as a regular man nora_gatine: the baby's body needs to be all sculpted before it get's its tail nora_gatine: then they will be posed in the abalone shell liteladi: so we have a merfamily nora_gatine: and cured as a sleeping group liteladi: very very cool julia_dodge: will the family be for sale? tedi382001 joined the room tedi382001: hi liteladi: hi julia_dodge: hi Tedi nora_gatine: I don't know nora_gatine: if I'd sell it nora_gatine: give it as a gift most like liteladi: its very cool NJ nora_gatine: Amy, hey honey tedi382001: hi NJ tedi382001: is that blue? Betty: hi, Amy tedi382001: hi Betty nora_gatine: yes the blue Mer Family nora_gatine: cousins of the Smerfs tedi382001: neat tedi382001: LOL nora_gatine: I was reviewing the difference between male and female bodies nora_gatine: and adult and infants faces liteladi: thats too cool but I think its beyond my capabilities nora_gatine: For now maybe nora_gatine: but with practice you'll get it liteladi: i dont know NJ nora_gatine: I've seen it happen Betty: im on phone but watching julia_dodge: your doing a wonderful job NJ, love them nora_gatine: see the difference between the list and me, is I have Faith that all of you can do this liteladi: well ill stay with my beads for now LOL nora_gatine: little faces on beads are very hot nora_gatine: sculpting is a committment of time and effort that's the truth of it liteladi: how do you do faces on beads? liteladi: well i made a snowman yesterday does that count LOL nora_gatine: but I'm willing to stick with you during the long haul and keep you company as you work nora_gatine: you sculpt little faces, make molds of them, press the molds on beads and then embellish nora_gatine: let me see if I can find one real quick here tedi382001: neat idea liteladi: cool idea nora_gatine: practicing face sculpting is not easy, it's not quick, and it does take effort nora_gatine: but nora_gatine: once you learn nora_gatine: you can't unlearn a thing nora_gatine: and you'll be able to have original faces on anything you're working with nora_gatine: free yourself from the tyrrany of face molds nora_gatine: that are nora_gatine: boring nora_gatine: and look like everyone elses stuff nora_gatine: I could make a baby doll with this little face mold nora_gatine: a dolly for the baby nora_gatine: there tedi382001: cute liteladi: very very cute nora_gatine: so who's up for some chevron flips nora_gatine: the Daddy needs a fish tail and we got to prep for that julia_dodge: ok liteladi: works for me fearless leader you show we follow tedi382001: I have to run, just popped in to say hi, take care everyone Betty: bye Amy julia_dodge: bye Tedi liteladi: bye amy tedi382001 left the room nora_gatine: door Betty: k liteladi: k julia_dodge: k nora_gatine: back nora_gatine: ok, any stacked sheets can be chevron flipped nora_gatine: cut on the diagonal like this nora_gatine: and flip one side over nora_gatine: but I like to put a vein down the center nora_gatine: so I pressed blue and silver together nora_gatine: pressed it again thin nora_gatine: and folded it in half so the silver is in the middle nora_gatine: I'm going to press some silver on blue again and surround this cane before reducing nora_gatine: now to cut and press these to a sheet julia_dodge: whoa, the cam stopped, then did a fast forward julia_dodge: Teddy , Homosassa, Florida nora_gatine: NoraJean, San Francisco julia_dodge: hi Nora Jean liteladi: Penny------------>Lansing Michigan julia_dodge: just wanted you to know we are paying attention liteladi: now thats way cool nora_gatine: This is my Holiday leaf pattern nora_gatine: for Elvis's Blue Blue Christmas liteladi: that design would have made beautiful beads i think Betty: I'm fully here now, sorry liteladi: ok here is fully here betty LOL Betty: THanks, Penny julia_dodge: lol Betty: My son called and couldn't get away Betty: but, I was watching! LOL liteladi: my mom called and bought drove me nuts tonight Betty: The add took over my chat screen..is there a way to fix it? Betty: LOL, Penny. Sorry liteladi: not that i have found last night i had a tiny chat window huge ads Betty: THat is mine now..Guess it's my turn Betty: I'll leave and come back, I guess liteladi: that might work bettyintennessee left the room Betty (bettyintennessee) joined the room Betty: it worked liteladi: ok ill have to remember that one then Betty: Pretty Tail he has liteladi: i love that pattern nora_gatine: it's like he is making faces at the baby nora_gatine: coo chi cooo chi cooo Betty: LOL liteladi: lol Betty: I wondered julia_dodge: so sweet Betty: So fun nora_gatine: now with the mother looking at the baby nora_gatine: and the baby looking at the father nora_gatine: it seems more balanced nora_gatine: they are both looking for the baby's reaction liteladi: cute techi_mom56 joined the room nora_gatine: Howdy Nancy Betty: Hi, Nancy |
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