shargoose: Ayup
tedi382001: hinged egg if you have time please
wi1dangl: yep, that sounds good
bonsaikathy: Sharon that's the start of the fountain
bonsaikathy: will be adding to it as I go
shargoose: Pretty Kathy
kmrhodes: Kathy, you are just awesome!
auntyalias: I promised Eva that I would hinge an egg when she comes to demo. She was hoping to be on after work. I'm going to be doing an all day marathon, so if we could hinge that one egg I have ready later on today that would be ideal.
shargoose: I'm goin to try a small one with a goose as tribute to Cuddles
auntyalias: I can get the tute for it, an old tute but it works none the less
shargoose: OK
auntyalias: http://www.geocities.com/mizkoshka/howto_egg.html
shargoose: If you want to do it later, just let me know
auntyalias: I just got that one egg ready, and only one hinge and with Eva doing so much for the list and all... I'd hate to disappoint her.
shargoose: I can keep checking back
tedi382001: ok thats good for me too
auntyalias: I'll do it today, but I promised I'd wait for Eva
shargoose: Don't dissapoint Eva
auntyalias: canes? Sculpting? Flowers? Mini Food?
kmrhodes: love sculpting
wi1dangl: i'll be in and out today, kids are working on projects for the last days of school, so whatever you all want to see fine with me.
shargoose: flowers
kmrhodes: flowers are good too
bonsaikathy: anything here too, I'm riding along
bonsaikathy: working on my garden and watching too
kmrhodes: flowers with bodies! and faces!
shargoose: NJ, I made some roses using a paper crimper with the clay
shargoose: Have you seen that technique?
auntyalias: let's discuss it amongst ourselves here so everyone feels good about it. If it is flowers shall we do three dimensional flowers? Elementals that are eyeballs and flower petals?
auntyalias: No Sharon I've not seen that technique
kmrhodes: 3d flowers
auntyalias: what colors do we use? What flower shall we pick?
shargoose: It is so cool. It was on Carol Duvall show.
auntyalias: ok, I like three D flowers better myself, frankly
kmrhodes: you pick the colors
shargoose: I'll e-mail the group with the link
auntyalias: Thank you Sharon
kmrhodes: lady slippers
shargoose: later, I'll send it
shargoose: Oh, yes, lady slippers
auntyalias: go send it now honey, I'm getting the flower book out
shargoose: OK, I'll search for it and be back
kmrhodes: No lady slippers in San Fran?
auntyalias: anyone got a link to a picture?
kmrhodes: something to think about is animals too NJ
auntyalias: I have NO idea what it looks like
kmrhodes: oh, what is the real name of Lady Slippers Sharon?
auntyalias: let me do a search online, brb
kmrhodes: its a bell type flower
kmrhodes: delicate
bonsaikathy: I'm looking now NJ
wi1dangl: not familiar with it here
kmrhodes: and old flower
auntyalias: http://www.geobop.com/Symbols/plants/flowers/slippers/
kmrhodes: from old times
auntyalias: http://www.duke.edu/~nplummer/slipper.html
auntyalias: they are an orchid
wi1dangl: aww...like an orchid...I should have known that, I grow orchids
bonsaikathy: http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&q=ladies+slipper&sa=N&tab=wi
auntyalias: Paphiopedilums
kmrhodes: yep, those!
kmrhodes: mini animals too NJ
kmrhodes: love to do some mini dogs, cats, horses, elephants, tigers
kmrhodes: etc
auntyalias: http://www.norajean.biz/Flowers/Orchid/Group.htm
tedi382001: .
shargoose: Here's the link for the flowers done with crimper; http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/crafting/article/0,,HGTV_3352_1820507,00.html
auntyalias: ok tricks about orchids
kmrhodes: looks good
auntyalias: Orchid Facts
auntyalias: when you have an orchid with a pouch
auntyalias: two of the side petals are pulled back and hid behind the pouch
auntyalias: it's the center bit that comes out and becomes a pouch, you see
auntyalias: but there's three petals above, pouch below and two bottom petals are hid
auntyalias: that's the trick of it
auntyalias: really
auntyalias: let's see if I have some left over orchid cane to show you how it is done
auntyalias: Biz-Archive/MSAT/ClayArt/WebCam/01-14-03-Orchids-004.htm
auntyalias: these are the canes left over from this orchid
auntyalias: if we took the center bit and made it into a pouch, we'd have a lady slipper
auntyalias: one of the petals broke off when a bunch of stuff fell off of my monitor
wi1dangl: that's a good lesson Sharon, I love the vase.
shargoose: It is beautiful isn't it?
shargoose: I love very soft and translucent colors
auntyalias: that center petal there is a combination of lace cane for the dots in the center
auntyalias: and then using a card to indent the sides of the black before adding more green
auntyalias: the variation in orchids is in the designs inside the petals, since there's only a handful of petals to work with in the first place
shargoose: Looks like I'll have to figure out the cane first
kmrhodes: pearl and translucent for the lace cane
auntyalias: first one has to pick a flower to use as inspiration
kmrhodes: surrounded by pink?
shargoose: Yes but look at all the little dots n stuff
auntyalias: this green orchid here is from a real flower
shargoose: Not too, good at canes, really..
auntyalias: so continuing to work with canes, basic cane design, is something that needs to be done first, don't ya think?
kmrhodes: ya
shargoose: For me, yes
auntyalias: ok, shall we do a new cane set, for a new orchid and we can make it a lady slipper type
shargoose: I am cane challenged!!
shargoose: Thanks
auntyalias: hold up I got a link to get for you
shargoose: What a neat book. What's the title?
auntyalias: http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1751108&a=30516043&p=62460579&f=0
auntyalias: start with this picture and go 6 more
auntyalias: see the orchid petals separated
shargoose: K
auntyalias: and you'll see orchids are easy, the cane that makes the petal is where the work is
shargoose: Thanks for pic of book
shargoose: Got the site you sent, too
shargoose: You always say it's easy
shargoose: But for me it's new and therefor kinda difficult
auntyalias: I'll tell you when it isn't easy and then I'll ask you to give yourself time to work on a skill
bonsaikathy: she does tend to make things easier to do also
bonsaikathy: which makes it nice
auntyalias: but until you got the basics of cane building mastered, making other things will be difficult, for you're putting the cart before the horse
shargoose: I know, just I'm slow on the uptake sometimes!! LOL
auntyalias: see?
bonsaikathy: she gives you the easy breezy ways
auntyalias: how do we do these multi colored things, remember a dot is a snake and a line is a sheet
shargoose: I can make canes, but very simple ones
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auntyalias: so if we are to have dots on a petal we need to make snakes
shargoose: k
auntyalias: Night Owl, First name and Location please, I'm NoraJean in San Francisco
auntyalias: and I run this joint
shargoose: Guess that's why I do figures a lot. Not many canes needed
shargoose: brb nature calling
nightowl1525: sorry, it is Rhonda in MS.
kmrhodes: Hi Rhonda
nightowl1525: Hi
kmrhodes: I'm Karen
auntyalias: Howdy Rhonda, I don't recognize you from the MSATClayArt list. But you're welcome here and we're fixing to do orchids
nightowl1525: LOl...Hummingbirdsings
auntyalias: Oh there ya go. You had me confused. LOL
nightowl1525: I know the Nightowl is my old Yahoo name
auntyalias: still in the bird family
nightowl1525: LOL..Yep and still up late
auntyalias: ok, now back to the orchids, let me give Rhonda the link to our Orchid page
auntyalias: nightowl1525
auntyalias: sorry that didn't work did it?
auntyalias: LOL
auntyalias: let me copy the link
auntyalias: sheese
nightowl1525: Nope it never does
auntyalias: Biz-Archive/Flowers/Orchid/Group
nightowl1525: LOL...I know ...seems I have all kinds of problems with Yahoo!
nightowl1525: Got it!
auntyalias: http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1751108&a=30516043&p=62460586&f=0
auntyalias: I was showing that orchids are just a couple of elements, 5 petals, the lip and the stamin
auntyalias: when one wants an orchid with a pouch, two of the lower petals get fused behind the pouch, the lip becomes the pouch
auntyalias: like Lady Slippers
nightowl1525: Oh ok!
auntyalias: I'll make one out of the cane I have left over from our earlier orchid experiments
auntyalias: Biz-Archive/MSAT/ClayArt/WebCam/01-14-2003-Orchids-004.htm
nightowl1525: LOL...Now all I need is to be able to make a cane!
auntyalias: for all we have to do is take the lip, make it into a pouch
auntyalias: take three petals and put it on the top
auntyalias: ya, it is the cane work that's the challenge with flowers
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jakmiami: hi all, judith kere
auntyalias: JudithK in Miami, Is In Da House!!
auntyalias: hey honey
kmrhodes: Hi Judith
nightowl1525: HI Judith
auntyalias: we're doing orchids, can someone give her the links we're working with and I'll continue to make this pouch
nightowl1525: Biz-Archive/MSAT/ClayArt/WebCam/01-14-2003-Orchids-004.htm
jakmiami: thanks
nightowl1525: welcome
auntyalias: now that cane slice was bent like a bowl shape and then turned into the pouch
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auntyalias: Karen can you copy your log and email it to me please
shargoose: There you are, lost ya for a minute
auntyalias: Yahoo Crashed before I was able to save the log
kmrhodes: can't copy on the mac
shargoose: If you tell me how I could try
auntyalias: ok, let's see who's here... Roll Call, Name and Location Please
shargoose: Sharon V, in New Hampshire
kmrhodes: Karen, Gettysburg, PA
auntyalias: I think we see more folks here in the chat than are really with us
jakmiami: JudithK, Miami Beach
tedi382001: Amy Canada
auntyalias: Sharon, if you click on the chat log, right click to "select all" then right click to copy, you can paste it inside of an email and send it to me
shargoose: Trying
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dahs512: wow, big group
auntyalias: Yo Denise, doing orchids with pouches now
dahs512: cool
shargoose: Where do I find the chat log?
auntyalias: where you read what I type
auntyalias: what scrolls up
auntyalias: just click on that part of the screen, then right click and pick select all
auntyalias: then right click after it is all highlighted and copy
auntyalias: then paste in an email
shargoose: k
dahs512: Sharon, thanks for the help with smoothing
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dahs512: the antibacterial goo helps a lot, nice and slippery
auntyalias: so Lady Slippers are fairly easy to make
auntyalias: make a pouch, hide two petals behind it, add three petals above it and you're done
shargoose: What's your e-mail nj
shargoose: I got it ready
auntyalias: antalias@pacbell.net
auntyalias: thank you Sharon
auntyalias: let's do this Lady slipper with another flower cane
shargoose: Did it!!! Yea
auntyalias: \(*o*)/
auntyalias: YEAH
auntyalias: thanks honey
shargoose: Boy you guys are pushing this newbie
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dahs512: lol, keep you on your toes
shargoose: Now I just need to learn how to save the web cam stuff
shargoose: Cause my clay is wayyyy in the other room
dahs512: print screen button, then paste as new image in grafics program like paint shop pro
auntyalias: There's instructions on how to do screen shots, Sharon
dahs512: Then save as a jpg, crop it like you want, if you want, then save again
auntyalias: NoraJean.biz MSAT/ClayArt/WebCam/ScreenShots
auntyalias: Mitch put this information together
auntyalias: our busy birthday girl
auntyalias: ../04-03/PinkWhite-002.htm
auntyalias: here's the page for the petals I'm using to make the second Lady Slipper
shargoose: Thanks!!
kmrhodes: NICE NJ
shargoose: Very pretty
shargoose: That wasn't hard. Just have to kick myself into "cane mode"
dahs512: Can you get a good close up NJ and I'll get a shot
auntyalias: how's that?
auntyalias: without them being on a stem they look tired, like they had a long night out on the town or something
dahs512: got it, any closer will it focus, says yoda
auntyalias: now's that?
dahs512: good, got it
auntyalias: thanks
auntyalias: Now for other flower petals you can call into the Lady Slipper, or pouched orchid technique might be able to be found on the flower page, let me get the link
dahs512: so it is three background petals, a lip and a vase?
auntyalias: ../../OnSiteFlowers.htm
auntyalias: Denise, the two lower petals are fused behind the pouch
auntyalias: the pouch is the lip of the orchid, then there's three petals above
auntyalias: see, the two lower petals are hidden behind the pouch
auntyalias: so three are seen from the front
dahs512: i see
wi1dangl: Lynn, Atlanta GA
auntyalias: and then the lip is larger and made into a pouch shape
dahs512: ok
auntyalias: Ok, now what else shall we do with 3D flowers now that we're on them
dahs512: sure
auntyalias: I'm going to go out and come back in the chat, my ad is goofing me up
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auntyalias: Sorry about that
auntyalias: Yahoo is being mean to me today
auntyalias: so any flower requests since we're on the topic of flowers?
dahs512: I'm thinking
kmrhodes: lets do animals
auntyalias: For those who are new, if I crash with Yahoo, close my cam window and open it up again
dahs512: What grows on the beach?
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auntyalias: jeese louise, it's really bad today
jakmiami: sand fleas
dahs512: lol
auntyalias: beer cans
dahs512: have you ever done bluebonnets?
dahs512: lol
auntyalias: let's find a link for bluebonnets
dahs512: http://www.cptexas.org/index.shtml
auntyalias: http://www.thompson-morgan.com/seeds/uk/product_1694_2.html
dahs512: sorry it's a political page, but a good pic
kmrhodes: Politics Denise! Shame on you!!
dahs512: just a quick search
auntyalias: all the pictures are too small ... contiue the search and I'll check my books
dahs512: ok
dahs512: http://www.thompson-morgan.com/seeds/uk/productwin_3025_1.html
dahs512: that is close
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shargoose: Sorry guys. Feeding time at zoo again
shargoose: I'll check back later!
bonsaikathy: http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&q=blue+bonnet&sa=N&tab=wi
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dahs512: I must have closed the wrong window
bonsaikathy: I've done that before Denise lol
bonsaikathy: bye Sharon if you're still here
kmrhodes: feeding time and potty time for puppy
kmrhodes: be back later
auntyalias: getting a good close up shot of a blue bonnet is beginning to be a quest
auntyalias: But it's a Lupin, which grows on stalks, in fields, not an indoor plant
auntyalias: and the stalk has one to many flowers depending
auntyalias: Lupins ... who knows that Monty Python riff
dahs512: http://www.thompson-morgan.com/seeds/uk/productwin_3025_1.html
dahs512: not me
dahs512: they are little hollow petals
auntyalias: Oh it was a spoof on Robin Hood, instead of giving the poor money, he would give them Lupins
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auntyalias: until they were sick to death of Lupins
auntyalias: Some blue bonnets are more like trumpets, a bunch of trumpets all grouped together
dahs512: they aren't the ones that grow here
auntyalias: http://www.countryelegancephotos.com/txblue.jpg
auntyalias: how about these from Texas?
dahs512: these are like sweet peas
dahs512: that's them. Did you see the link i sent?
auntyalias: until I get a good close up shot of a flower I can't replicate it
auntyalias: Yes I captured that picture and saved it honey, thanks
dahs512: we can do something else
auntyalias: we can begin a collection of blue bonnet pictures and aim to replicate blue bonnets in the future
dahs512: bird of paradise
auntyalias: I think I have pictures of that already
dahs512: am i tough today?
dahs512: pick one you've been wanting to do
dahs512: I'm still thinking though
bonsaikathy: http://www.leatherjewelry.com/images/Flowers/063%20Blue%20Bonnet%20Pin.jpg
bonsaikathy: try that pic NJ
auntyalias: Biz-Archive/Tins/Jungle/Shneoa close but no cigar, bird of paradise is just leaf shaped petals that are folded in half
auntyalias: http://flowergardenhawaii.com/flowergardenhawaii/tropflowpac.html?source=overture&kw=birdofparadise_
dahs512: we have a yellow texas bird of paradise that looks nothing like that
dahs512: but yours was what i meant
auntyalias: http://www.thegardenhelper.com/birdofparadisepix.html
dahs512: I found the texas one...
dahs512: http://www.touringtexas.com/artgallery/
dahs512: just for curiositys sake
dahs512: it is called the Mexican bird of paradise
dahs512: we should have had that one during Mexican month
auntyalias: Ok the trick to these flowers in general
dahs512: I just threw a flower together, check it out...that is what i get for coming in late
auntyalias: are they are leaf shapes folded in half
auntyalias: you got your cam on?
auntyalias: ah now you do
auntyalias: Hey Hey Hey
auntyalias: there ya go
jakmiami: pretty nifty denise
auntyalias: I need to do a blend for a bird of paradise
auntyalias: let's do yellow going to red so it'll have orange in the middle
auntyalias: and then we'll make a leaf shape with that boend
auntyalias: blend
dahs512: ok
auntyalias: then we'll cut off slices and build a bird of paradise
auntyalias: ok?
dahs512: woks for me
jakmiami: ok with me
auntyalias: So how about a 10 minute break so I can clear off the work table and start the FIRE BLEND
dahs512: ok
auntyalias: that's what I'm going to call it, for it is definately in the Fire Family there
jakmiami: ok
dahs512: how do i doctor up zinc yellow to be real yellow?
auntyalias: hmmm, how do you change zinc yellow to be cadmium yellow?
auntyalias: add a touch of red, like a booger's worth
dahs512: ok
auntyalias: for cadmium yellow is warmer in tone
dahs512: the only red i have is alizarin
dahs512: is that ok?
auntyalias: use what you got
auntyalias: it really doesn't matter for these flower petals come in all sorts of wild colors
dahs512: it will be everywhere
dahs512: what's the TLS for?
auntyalias: my red was crumbly
auntyalias: old and a bit dried out
auntyalias: I add TLS to the food processor so it'll be more elastic
auntyalias: Ok, I have my two colors pressed and I've got to get a bite to eat
auntyalias: or I'm going to fall over
auntyalias: For those who are claying along... do your blends
auntyalias: I'll be back in a little bit
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jakmiami: ok, i'll check in later
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auntyalias: BIRTHDAY GIRL IS IN DA HOUSE!!!
auntyalias: Happy Birthday Mitch
frogger70301: thnx, just got back in.
frogger70301: so what are we up 2 today?
techi_mom56: happy birthday mitch....huggs...
auntyalias: how's the prep for the shrimping season?
auntyalias: We're fixing to do Bird of Paradise flowers
auntyalias: doing a blend from yellow to red
auntyalias: making a leaf shape
frogger70301: all I got left to do is go get the boiling pot at my moms house.
dahs512: happy birthday Mitch
auntyalias: and then folding the leaf shape in half for the petals
frogger70301: thnx.
auntyalias: I'm getting something to eat
auntyalias: since I'm falling over with hunger
auntyalias: so that's why nothing is going on with my cam. Denise is claying along
auntyalias: so her cam has action, I'm reheating old pizza
auntyalias: breaking my diet big time
dahs512: I'm eating a salad
frogger70301: since we're on a break of sorts, can I show you some thing really quick?
dahs512: please
auntyalias: sure honey, open your cam
dahs512: tiger
frogger70301: got my necklace finished, but sis-in-law left b4 I could give it to her.
dahs512: looks rich
frogger70301: the beads are tiger, but the sheet is my leopard cane.
auntyalias: She left out, didn't she know you had something for her?
frogger70301: no, didn't get to talk with her again.
auntyalias: it looks great honey
techi_mom56: really pretty mitch...
frogger70301: How can I get the spots on my leopard bigger? I reduced it too much.
frogger70301: thnx.
auntyalias: I'm sorry you aren't going to be able to see her expression when she sees it for the first time
auntyalias: When I reduce something too much and have need for the same design larger
frogger70301: I didn't even get to get her adfdress to send it to her.
auntyalias: I slice off a large bit of cane
dahs512: it's pretty anyway
auntyalias: and then press it with my fingers
auntyalias: stretching the design out to be bigger
auntyalias: like the cane slices get stretched out when we press them on sheets, ya see?
auntyalias: Also
auntyalias: slice off some of that pressed sheet
frogger70301: yeah. I took thin slices and pressed to the sheet.
auntyalias: and back it with another sheet of solid color
auntyalias: run it through the pasta machine again
auntyalias: and it will stretch out the spots
frogger70301: ok, I was gonna try that but I thought it might distort too much.
auntyalias: you got nothing to loose in trying
frogger70301: gonna give that a try tomorrow.
auntyalias: also, there's cane slices pressed to sheets that I've backed with more clay
auntyalias: then sliced off a bit and backed it again
dahs512: change directions each time you runit through
auntyalias: and pressed and backed until the design got real big
auntyalias: ya, change the direction of the press
auntyalias: those tiny leopard spots are good for beads and such all, but for something that is going to be seen from a distance
auntyalias: you got to reduce it less I'm figuring
frogger70301: Well, I figured if I couldn't get it, I got the mixes wrote down, so it's do able again.
auntyalias: always leave crumbs behind you for a trail back to the mix
auntyalias: either write it down or do a color card
frogger70301: I'm gonna branch off of your Rumble in the Jungle tin on the box Denise sent me.
dahs512: cool
auntyalias: Cool, a big flower on a tin?
auntyalias: the ad is goofing up on me again. I'm going out of chat and coming back in, brb
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frogger70301: Well, maybe not a flower. I's thinking doing maybe a tiger paw or something, then leaves scattered, but I got the idea when I's looking at that tin.
auntyalias: whew
auntyalias: that Jim Carrie ad just messes me up
frogger70301: me too. I just leave it and scroll up and down.
frogger70301: Can't wait till they get a new one.
auntyalias: I didn't say Hi to Nancy
auntyalias: hey honey
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auntyalias: oooh Mitch
auntyalias: just lost your cam, but that was wonderous
dahs512: yippee yiiii yahooooo
auntyalias: Lost your cam too Denise
frogger70301: oh, you were still watching, I thought you were getting back to work so I turned it off.
dahs512: i feel like i'm in a yahoo rodeao ridin' the bull
frogger70301:
auntyalias: LOL
dahs512: i wanna see mitch
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auntyalias: Yiiii Hah
auntyalias: Ride em cowgirls
dahs512: is it an egg?
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dahs512: a bead?
frogger70301: Birthday girl is lucky so far!
frogger70301: egg.
dahs512: i can't tell the size
dahs512: pretty color and texture
auntyalias: that's amazing Mitch
auntyalias: a real work of art there
frogger70301: thnx. That's one of the ones I made for the swap.
dahs512: ioh my very pretty
frogger70301: I'm supposed to be working on the stand right now.
auntyalias: upside down pizza protector works
auntyalias: cover it with clay
shargoose: I'm back, kina
auntyalias: and turn it upside down
auntyalias: and it'll hold an egg
techi_mom56: hi NJ...was just outside taking pictures of the awesome spring flowers
dahs512: Sharon, we all need some velcro, huh
frogger70301: I'm gonna try a ring of clay, then drape some leaves around it.
auntyalias: oh do post the flower pictures
auntyalias: or put them on a page and send a link
auntyalias: I'd love to see them
techi_mom56: yes i will...they are on 35mm but will finish the roll up later...want some pictures of the wild blue iris
bonsaikathy: I'll be back in a little bit folks, going in to sit and relax a while
auntyalias: Kathy
shargoose: Well, it's feeding time at 5PM for 12 critters, and make meal for hubby and....
auntyalias: before you go could you post to the list that you're Tornado Relief Coordinator?
auntyalias: ok, see you later then Sharon, we'll be here all day
bonsaikathy: sure
bonsaikathy: be glad to
shargoose: Denise, glad the smoothing tips helped.
shargoose: Catching up on the log here
dahs512: lol
shargoose: I'm not going, I'm just coming back
dahs512: it works great
auntyalias: Sharon can you send me the log again
auntyalias: I got kicked out again
auntyalias: and didn't get to save
shargoose: I think the waterless handcleaner has some alcohol in it, but not sure
auntyalias: and I think you have everything
shargoose: Yup
dahs512: my add keep going wonky, but Ihave a good harness on this donkey
tedi382001: hinged egg if you have time please
wi1dangl: yep, that sounds good
bonsaikathy: Sharon that's the start of the fountain
bonsaikathy: will be adding to it as I go
shargoose: Pretty Kathy
kmrhodes: Kathy, you are just awesome!
auntyalias: I promised Eva that I would hinge an egg when she comes to demo. She was hoping to be on after work. I'm going to be doing an all day marathon, so if we could hinge that one egg I have ready later on today that would be ideal.
shargoose: I'm goin to try a small one with a goose as tribute to Cuddles
auntyalias: I can get the tute for it, an old tute but it works none the less
shargoose: OK
auntyalias: http://www.geocities.com/mizkoshka/howto_egg.html
shargoose: If you want to do it later, just let me know
auntyalias: I just got that one egg ready, and only one hinge and with Eva doing so much for the list and all... I'd hate to disappoint her.
shargoose: I can keep checking back
tedi382001: ok thats good for me too
auntyalias: I'll do it today, but I promised I'd wait for Eva
shargoose: Don't dissapoint Eva
auntyalias: canes? Sculpting? Flowers? Mini Food?
kmrhodes: love sculpting
wi1dangl: i'll be in and out today, kids are working on projects for the last days of school, so whatever you all want to see fine with me.
shargoose: flowers
kmrhodes: flowers are good too
bonsaikathy: anything here too, I'm riding along
bonsaikathy: working on my garden and watching too
kmrhodes: flowers with bodies! and faces!
shargoose: NJ, I made some roses using a paper crimper with the clay
shargoose: Have you seen that technique?
auntyalias: let's discuss it amongst ourselves here so everyone feels good about it. If it is flowers shall we do three dimensional flowers? Elementals that are eyeballs and flower petals?
auntyalias: No Sharon I've not seen that technique
kmrhodes: 3d flowers
auntyalias: what colors do we use? What flower shall we pick?
shargoose: It is so cool. It was on Carol Duvall show.
auntyalias: ok, I like three D flowers better myself, frankly
kmrhodes: you pick the colors
shargoose: I'll e-mail the group with the link
auntyalias: Thank you Sharon
kmrhodes: lady slippers
shargoose: later, I'll send it
shargoose: Oh, yes, lady slippers
auntyalias: go send it now honey, I'm getting the flower book out
shargoose: OK, I'll search for it and be back
kmrhodes: No lady slippers in San Fran?
auntyalias: anyone got a link to a picture?
kmrhodes: something to think about is animals too NJ
auntyalias: I have NO idea what it looks like
kmrhodes: oh, what is the real name of Lady Slippers Sharon?
auntyalias: let me do a search online, brb
kmrhodes: its a bell type flower
kmrhodes: delicate
bonsaikathy: I'm looking now NJ
wi1dangl: not familiar with it here
kmrhodes: and old flower
auntyalias: http://www.geobop.com/Symbols/plants/flowers/slippers/
kmrhodes: from old times
auntyalias: http://www.duke.edu/~nplummer/slipper.html
auntyalias: they are an orchid
wi1dangl: aww...like an orchid...I should have known that, I grow orchids
bonsaikathy: http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&q=ladies+slipper&sa=N&tab=wi
auntyalias: Paphiopedilums
kmrhodes: yep, those!
kmrhodes: mini animals too NJ
kmrhodes: love to do some mini dogs, cats, horses, elephants, tigers
kmrhodes: etc
auntyalias: http://www.norajean.biz/Flowers/Orchid/Group.htm
tedi382001: .
shargoose: Here's the link for the flowers done with crimper; http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/crafting/article/0,,HGTV_3352_1820507,00.html
auntyalias: ok tricks about orchids
kmrhodes: looks good
auntyalias: Orchid Facts
auntyalias: when you have an orchid with a pouch
auntyalias: two of the side petals are pulled back and hid behind the pouch
auntyalias: it's the center bit that comes out and becomes a pouch, you see
auntyalias: but there's three petals above, pouch below and two bottom petals are hid
auntyalias: that's the trick of it
auntyalias: really
auntyalias: let's see if I have some left over orchid cane to show you how it is done
auntyalias: Biz-Archive/MSAT/ClayArt/WebCam/01-14-03-Orchids-004.htm
auntyalias: these are the canes left over from this orchid
auntyalias: if we took the center bit and made it into a pouch, we'd have a lady slipper
auntyalias: one of the petals broke off when a bunch of stuff fell off of my monitor
wi1dangl: that's a good lesson Sharon, I love the vase.
shargoose: It is beautiful isn't it?
shargoose: I love very soft and translucent colors
auntyalias: that center petal there is a combination of lace cane for the dots in the center
auntyalias: and then using a card to indent the sides of the black before adding more green
auntyalias: the variation in orchids is in the designs inside the petals, since there's only a handful of petals to work with in the first place
shargoose: Looks like I'll have to figure out the cane first
kmrhodes: pearl and translucent for the lace cane
auntyalias: first one has to pick a flower to use as inspiration
kmrhodes: surrounded by pink?
shargoose: Yes but look at all the little dots n stuff
auntyalias: this green orchid here is from a real flower
shargoose: Not too, good at canes, really..
auntyalias: so continuing to work with canes, basic cane design, is something that needs to be done first, don't ya think?
kmrhodes: ya
shargoose: For me, yes
auntyalias: ok, shall we do a new cane set, for a new orchid and we can make it a lady slipper type
shargoose: I am cane challenged!!
shargoose: Thanks
auntyalias: hold up I got a link to get for you
shargoose: What a neat book. What's the title?
auntyalias: http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1751108&a=30516043&p=62460579&f=0
auntyalias: start with this picture and go 6 more
auntyalias: see the orchid petals separated
shargoose: K
auntyalias: and you'll see orchids are easy, the cane that makes the petal is where the work is
shargoose: Thanks for pic of book
shargoose: Got the site you sent, too
shargoose: You always say it's easy
shargoose: But for me it's new and therefor kinda difficult
auntyalias: I'll tell you when it isn't easy and then I'll ask you to give yourself time to work on a skill
bonsaikathy: she does tend to make things easier to do also
bonsaikathy: which makes it nice
auntyalias: but until you got the basics of cane building mastered, making other things will be difficult, for you're putting the cart before the horse
shargoose: I know, just I'm slow on the uptake sometimes!! LOL
auntyalias: see?
bonsaikathy: she gives you the easy breezy ways
auntyalias: how do we do these multi colored things, remember a dot is a snake and a line is a sheet
shargoose: I can make canes, but very simple ones
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auntyalias: so if we are to have dots on a petal we need to make snakes
shargoose: k
auntyalias: Night Owl, First name and Location please, I'm NoraJean in San Francisco
auntyalias: and I run this joint
shargoose: Guess that's why I do figures a lot. Not many canes needed
shargoose: brb nature calling
nightowl1525: sorry, it is Rhonda in MS.
kmrhodes: Hi Rhonda
nightowl1525: Hi
kmrhodes: I'm Karen
auntyalias: Howdy Rhonda, I don't recognize you from the MSATClayArt list. But you're welcome here and we're fixing to do orchids
nightowl1525: LOl...Hummingbirdsings
auntyalias: Oh there ya go. You had me confused. LOL
nightowl1525: I know the Nightowl is my old Yahoo name
auntyalias: still in the bird family
nightowl1525: LOL..Yep and still up late
auntyalias: ok, now back to the orchids, let me give Rhonda the link to our Orchid page
auntyalias: nightowl1525
auntyalias: sorry that didn't work did it?
auntyalias: LOL
auntyalias: let me copy the link
auntyalias: sheese
nightowl1525: Nope it never does
auntyalias: Biz-Archive/Flowers/Orchid/Group
nightowl1525: LOL...I know ...seems I have all kinds of problems with Yahoo!
nightowl1525: Got it!
auntyalias: http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1751108&a=30516043&p=62460586&f=0
auntyalias: I was showing that orchids are just a couple of elements, 5 petals, the lip and the stamin
auntyalias: when one wants an orchid with a pouch, two of the lower petals get fused behind the pouch, the lip becomes the pouch
auntyalias: like Lady Slippers
nightowl1525: Oh ok!
auntyalias: I'll make one out of the cane I have left over from our earlier orchid experiments
auntyalias: Biz-Archive/MSAT/ClayArt/WebCam/01-14-2003-Orchids-004.htm
nightowl1525: LOL...Now all I need is to be able to make a cane!
auntyalias: for all we have to do is take the lip, make it into a pouch
auntyalias: take three petals and put it on the top
auntyalias: ya, it is the cane work that's the challenge with flowers
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jakmiami: hi all, judith kere
auntyalias: JudithK in Miami, Is In Da House!!
auntyalias: hey honey
kmrhodes: Hi Judith
nightowl1525: HI Judith
auntyalias: we're doing orchids, can someone give her the links we're working with and I'll continue to make this pouch
nightowl1525: Biz-Archive/MSAT/ClayArt/WebCam/01-14-2003-Orchids-004.htm
jakmiami: thanks
nightowl1525: welcome
auntyalias: now that cane slice was bent like a bowl shape and then turned into the pouch
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auntyalias: Karen can you copy your log and email it to me please
shargoose: There you are, lost ya for a minute
auntyalias: Yahoo Crashed before I was able to save the log
kmrhodes: can't copy on the mac
shargoose: If you tell me how I could try
auntyalias: ok, let's see who's here... Roll Call, Name and Location Please
shargoose: Sharon V, in New Hampshire
kmrhodes: Karen, Gettysburg, PA
auntyalias: I think we see more folks here in the chat than are really with us
jakmiami: JudithK, Miami Beach
tedi382001: Amy Canada
auntyalias: Sharon, if you click on the chat log, right click to "select all" then right click to copy, you can paste it inside of an email and send it to me
shargoose: Trying
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dahs512: wow, big group
auntyalias: Yo Denise, doing orchids with pouches now
dahs512: cool
shargoose: Where do I find the chat log?
auntyalias: where you read what I type
auntyalias: what scrolls up
auntyalias: just click on that part of the screen, then right click and pick select all
auntyalias: then right click after it is all highlighted and copy
auntyalias: then paste in an email
shargoose: k
dahs512: Sharon, thanks for the help with smoothing
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dahs512: the antibacterial goo helps a lot, nice and slippery
auntyalias: so Lady Slippers are fairly easy to make
auntyalias: make a pouch, hide two petals behind it, add three petals above it and you're done
shargoose: What's your e-mail nj
shargoose: I got it ready
auntyalias: antalias@pacbell.net
auntyalias: thank you Sharon
auntyalias: let's do this Lady slipper with another flower cane
shargoose: Did it!!! Yea
auntyalias: \(*o*)/
auntyalias: YEAH
auntyalias: thanks honey
shargoose: Boy you guys are pushing this newbie
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dahs512: lol, keep you on your toes
shargoose: Now I just need to learn how to save the web cam stuff
shargoose: Cause my clay is wayyyy in the other room
dahs512: print screen button, then paste as new image in grafics program like paint shop pro
auntyalias: There's instructions on how to do screen shots, Sharon
dahs512: Then save as a jpg, crop it like you want, if you want, then save again
auntyalias: NoraJean.biz MSAT/ClayArt/WebCam/ScreenShots
auntyalias: Mitch put this information together
auntyalias: our busy birthday girl
auntyalias: ../04-03/PinkWhite-002.htm
auntyalias: here's the page for the petals I'm using to make the second Lady Slipper
shargoose: Thanks!!
kmrhodes: NICE NJ
shargoose: Very pretty
shargoose: That wasn't hard. Just have to kick myself into "cane mode"
dahs512: Can you get a good close up NJ and I'll get a shot
auntyalias: how's that?
auntyalias: without them being on a stem they look tired, like they had a long night out on the town or something
dahs512: got it, any closer will it focus, says yoda
auntyalias: now's that?
dahs512: good, got it
auntyalias: thanks
auntyalias: Now for other flower petals you can call into the Lady Slipper, or pouched orchid technique might be able to be found on the flower page, let me get the link
dahs512: so it is three background petals, a lip and a vase?
auntyalias: ../../OnSiteFlowers.htm
auntyalias: Denise, the two lower petals are fused behind the pouch
auntyalias: the pouch is the lip of the orchid, then there's three petals above
auntyalias: see, the two lower petals are hidden behind the pouch
auntyalias: so three are seen from the front
dahs512: i see
wi1dangl: Lynn, Atlanta GA
auntyalias: and then the lip is larger and made into a pouch shape
dahs512: ok
auntyalias: Ok, now what else shall we do with 3D flowers now that we're on them
dahs512: sure
auntyalias: I'm going to go out and come back in the chat, my ad is goofing me up
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auntyalias: Sorry about that
auntyalias: Yahoo is being mean to me today
auntyalias: so any flower requests since we're on the topic of flowers?
dahs512: I'm thinking
kmrhodes: lets do animals
auntyalias: For those who are new, if I crash with Yahoo, close my cam window and open it up again
dahs512: What grows on the beach?
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auntyalias: jeese louise, it's really bad today
jakmiami: sand fleas
dahs512: lol
auntyalias: beer cans
dahs512: have you ever done bluebonnets?
dahs512: lol
auntyalias: let's find a link for bluebonnets
dahs512: http://www.cptexas.org/index.shtml
auntyalias: http://www.thompson-morgan.com/seeds/uk/product_1694_2.html
dahs512: sorry it's a political page, but a good pic
kmrhodes: Politics Denise! Shame on you!!
dahs512: just a quick search
auntyalias: all the pictures are too small ... contiue the search and I'll check my books
dahs512: ok
dahs512: http://www.thompson-morgan.com/seeds/uk/productwin_3025_1.html
dahs512: that is close
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shargoose: Sorry guys. Feeding time at zoo again
shargoose: I'll check back later!
bonsaikathy: http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&q=blue+bonnet&sa=N&tab=wi
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dahs512: I must have closed the wrong window
bonsaikathy: I've done that before Denise lol
bonsaikathy: bye Sharon if you're still here
kmrhodes: feeding time and potty time for puppy
kmrhodes: be back later
auntyalias: getting a good close up shot of a blue bonnet is beginning to be a quest
auntyalias: But it's a Lupin, which grows on stalks, in fields, not an indoor plant
auntyalias: and the stalk has one to many flowers depending
auntyalias: Lupins ... who knows that Monty Python riff
dahs512: http://www.thompson-morgan.com/seeds/uk/productwin_3025_1.html
dahs512: not me
dahs512: they are little hollow petals
auntyalias: Oh it was a spoof on Robin Hood, instead of giving the poor money, he would give them Lupins
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auntyalias: until they were sick to death of Lupins
auntyalias: Some blue bonnets are more like trumpets, a bunch of trumpets all grouped together
dahs512: they aren't the ones that grow here
auntyalias: http://www.countryelegancephotos.com/txblue.jpg
auntyalias: how about these from Texas?
dahs512: these are like sweet peas
dahs512: that's them. Did you see the link i sent?
auntyalias: until I get a good close up shot of a flower I can't replicate it
auntyalias: Yes I captured that picture and saved it honey, thanks
dahs512: we can do something else
auntyalias: we can begin a collection of blue bonnet pictures and aim to replicate blue bonnets in the future
dahs512: bird of paradise
auntyalias: I think I have pictures of that already
dahs512: am i tough today?
dahs512: pick one you've been wanting to do
dahs512: I'm still thinking though
bonsaikathy: http://www.leatherjewelry.com/images/Flowers/063%20Blue%20Bonnet%20Pin.jpg
bonsaikathy: try that pic NJ
auntyalias: Biz-Archive/Tins/Jungle/Shneoa close but no cigar, bird of paradise is just leaf shaped petals that are folded in half
auntyalias: http://flowergardenhawaii.com/flowergardenhawaii/tropflowpac.html?source=overture&kw=birdofparadise_
dahs512: we have a yellow texas bird of paradise that looks nothing like that
dahs512: but yours was what i meant
auntyalias: http://www.thegardenhelper.com/birdofparadisepix.html
dahs512: I found the texas one...
dahs512: http://www.touringtexas.com/artgallery/
dahs512: just for curiositys sake
dahs512: it is called the Mexican bird of paradise
dahs512: we should have had that one during Mexican month
auntyalias: Ok the trick to these flowers in general
dahs512: I just threw a flower together, check it out...that is what i get for coming in late
auntyalias: are they are leaf shapes folded in half
auntyalias: you got your cam on?
auntyalias: ah now you do
auntyalias: Hey Hey Hey
auntyalias: there ya go
jakmiami: pretty nifty denise
auntyalias: I need to do a blend for a bird of paradise
auntyalias: let's do yellow going to red so it'll have orange in the middle
auntyalias: and then we'll make a leaf shape with that boend
auntyalias: blend
dahs512: ok
auntyalias: then we'll cut off slices and build a bird of paradise
auntyalias: ok?
dahs512: woks for me
jakmiami: ok with me
auntyalias: So how about a 10 minute break so I can clear off the work table and start the FIRE BLEND
dahs512: ok
auntyalias: that's what I'm going to call it, for it is definately in the Fire Family there
jakmiami: ok
dahs512: how do i doctor up zinc yellow to be real yellow?
auntyalias: hmmm, how do you change zinc yellow to be cadmium yellow?
auntyalias: add a touch of red, like a booger's worth
dahs512: ok
auntyalias: for cadmium yellow is warmer in tone
dahs512: the only red i have is alizarin
dahs512: is that ok?
auntyalias: use what you got
auntyalias: it really doesn't matter for these flower petals come in all sorts of wild colors
dahs512: it will be everywhere
dahs512: what's the TLS for?
auntyalias: my red was crumbly
auntyalias: old and a bit dried out
auntyalias: I add TLS to the food processor so it'll be more elastic
auntyalias: Ok, I have my two colors pressed and I've got to get a bite to eat
auntyalias: or I'm going to fall over
auntyalias: For those who are claying along... do your blends
auntyalias: I'll be back in a little bit
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jakmiami: ok, i'll check in later
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auntyalias: BIRTHDAY GIRL IS IN DA HOUSE!!!
auntyalias: Happy Birthday Mitch
frogger70301: thnx, just got back in.
frogger70301: so what are we up 2 today?
techi_mom56: happy birthday mitch....huggs...
auntyalias: how's the prep for the shrimping season?
auntyalias: We're fixing to do Bird of Paradise flowers
auntyalias: doing a blend from yellow to red
auntyalias: making a leaf shape
frogger70301: all I got left to do is go get the boiling pot at my moms house.
dahs512: happy birthday Mitch
auntyalias: and then folding the leaf shape in half for the petals
frogger70301: thnx.
auntyalias: I'm getting something to eat
auntyalias: since I'm falling over with hunger
auntyalias: so that's why nothing is going on with my cam. Denise is claying along
auntyalias: so her cam has action, I'm reheating old pizza
auntyalias: breaking my diet big time
dahs512: I'm eating a salad
frogger70301: since we're on a break of sorts, can I show you some thing really quick?
dahs512: please
auntyalias: sure honey, open your cam
dahs512: tiger
frogger70301: got my necklace finished, but sis-in-law left b4 I could give it to her.
dahs512: looks rich
frogger70301: the beads are tiger, but the sheet is my leopard cane.
auntyalias: She left out, didn't she know you had something for her?
frogger70301: no, didn't get to talk with her again.
auntyalias: it looks great honey
techi_mom56: really pretty mitch...
frogger70301: How can I get the spots on my leopard bigger? I reduced it too much.
frogger70301: thnx.
auntyalias: I'm sorry you aren't going to be able to see her expression when she sees it for the first time
auntyalias: When I reduce something too much and have need for the same design larger
frogger70301: I didn't even get to get her adfdress to send it to her.
auntyalias: I slice off a large bit of cane
dahs512: it's pretty anyway
auntyalias: and then press it with my fingers
auntyalias: stretching the design out to be bigger
auntyalias: like the cane slices get stretched out when we press them on sheets, ya see?
auntyalias: Also
auntyalias: slice off some of that pressed sheet
frogger70301: yeah. I took thin slices and pressed to the sheet.
auntyalias: and back it with another sheet of solid color
auntyalias: run it through the pasta machine again
auntyalias: and it will stretch out the spots
frogger70301: ok, I was gonna try that but I thought it might distort too much.
auntyalias: you got nothing to loose in trying
frogger70301: gonna give that a try tomorrow.
auntyalias: also, there's cane slices pressed to sheets that I've backed with more clay
auntyalias: then sliced off a bit and backed it again
dahs512: change directions each time you runit through
auntyalias: and pressed and backed until the design got real big
auntyalias: ya, change the direction of the press
auntyalias: those tiny leopard spots are good for beads and such all, but for something that is going to be seen from a distance
auntyalias: you got to reduce it less I'm figuring
frogger70301: Well, I figured if I couldn't get it, I got the mixes wrote down, so it's do able again.
auntyalias: always leave crumbs behind you for a trail back to the mix
auntyalias: either write it down or do a color card
frogger70301: I'm gonna branch off of your Rumble in the Jungle tin on the box Denise sent me.
dahs512: cool
auntyalias: Cool, a big flower on a tin?
auntyalias: the ad is goofing up on me again. I'm going out of chat and coming back in, brb
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frogger70301: Well, maybe not a flower. I's thinking doing maybe a tiger paw or something, then leaves scattered, but I got the idea when I's looking at that tin.
auntyalias: whew
auntyalias: that Jim Carrie ad just messes me up
frogger70301: me too. I just leave it and scroll up and down.
frogger70301: Can't wait till they get a new one.
auntyalias: I didn't say Hi to Nancy
auntyalias: hey honey
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auntyalias: oooh Mitch
auntyalias: just lost your cam, but that was wonderous
dahs512: yippee yiiii yahooooo
auntyalias: Lost your cam too Denise
frogger70301: oh, you were still watching, I thought you were getting back to work so I turned it off.
dahs512: i feel like i'm in a yahoo rodeao ridin' the bull
frogger70301:
auntyalias: LOL
dahs512: i wanna see mitch
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auntyalias: Yiiii Hah
auntyalias: Ride em cowgirls
dahs512: is it an egg?
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dahs512: a bead?
frogger70301: Birthday girl is lucky so far!
frogger70301: egg.
dahs512: i can't tell the size
dahs512: pretty color and texture
auntyalias: that's amazing Mitch
auntyalias: a real work of art there
frogger70301: thnx. That's one of the ones I made for the swap.
dahs512: ioh my very pretty
frogger70301: I'm supposed to be working on the stand right now.
auntyalias: upside down pizza protector works
auntyalias: cover it with clay
shargoose: I'm back, kina
auntyalias: and turn it upside down
auntyalias: and it'll hold an egg
techi_mom56: hi NJ...was just outside taking pictures of the awesome spring flowers
dahs512: Sharon, we all need some velcro, huh
frogger70301: I'm gonna try a ring of clay, then drape some leaves around it.
auntyalias: oh do post the flower pictures
auntyalias: or put them on a page and send a link
auntyalias: I'd love to see them
techi_mom56: yes i will...they are on 35mm but will finish the roll up later...want some pictures of the wild blue iris
bonsaikathy: I'll be back in a little bit folks, going in to sit and relax a while
auntyalias: Kathy
shargoose: Well, it's feeding time at 5PM for 12 critters, and make meal for hubby and....
auntyalias: before you go could you post to the list that you're Tornado Relief Coordinator?
auntyalias: ok, see you later then Sharon, we'll be here all day
bonsaikathy: sure
bonsaikathy: be glad to
shargoose: Denise, glad the smoothing tips helped.
shargoose: Catching up on the log here
dahs512: lol
shargoose: I'm not going, I'm just coming back
dahs512: it works great
auntyalias: Sharon can you send me the log again
auntyalias: I got kicked out again
auntyalias: and didn't get to save
shargoose: I think the waterless handcleaner has some alcohol in it, but not sure
auntyalias: and I think you have everything
shargoose: Yup
dahs512: my add keep going wonky, but Ihave a good harness on this donkey