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jude: Night Judith.
dahs512: night Judith Fearless Leader: Eva, buy cutting them the way I was showing you Fearless Leader: hold up for a tick, someone at the door Fearless Leader: brb jakmiami left the room chelyha: I may have all handmade clothing this winter Fearless Leader: back dahs512: works for me Fearless Leader: Said is giving me his BBQ left overs buci131: yes, but I did that, NJ, and they still stick out like they have boards in them. dahs512: I hate shopping buci131: yummy Fearless Leader: press them down to the form you want Fearless Leader: the clay is your slave jude: Oh, yum, NJ. Fearless Leader: watch me do it with the leopard buci131: oh-I've just got to work this one--I always get holes in the pits of the sleeves Fearless Leader: like that Fearless Leader: who sees the pits Fearless Leader: no one Fearless Leader: once it's cured dahs512: what pits? buci131: ok, that's a good point Fearless Leader: Time for log save and I'm going to eat some of this bbq Fearless Leader: it's too yummy smelling dahs512: arm pits? chelyha: right dahs512: lol Fearless Leader: ya, arm pits, when the sleeves are down Fearless Leader: who sees them Fearless Leader: Eva, let up on yourself there Fearless Leader: LOL buci131: okay, if I must Fearless Leader: log save and a bbq break for me buci131: Fearless Leader: I'm starving buci131: saved chelyha: yes you must Fearless Leader: I'm here but I'm munching buci131: pass some of that this way, okay? Fearless Leader: bbq, mac and cheese, baked beans, rice, corn brean Fearless Leader: bread chelyha: bbq'd what? Fearless Leader: I'm biting my fingers Fearless Leader: chicken and beef Fearless Leader: Said is pretty serious about not eating pork chelyha: who did the cooking? buci131: On second thought, better not--agita and weird dreams, that what I would get eating this late at night. Fearless Leader: he's found his Islamic roots or something chelyha: my brothere is awesome with the grill Fearless Leader: Leon's BBQ a family outfit by the zoo near by buci131: those are usually the best chelyha: He grills everything chelyha: he even puts the tater tots in a pan in the barbecue chelyha: so they have that smoky flavor dahs512: nj what did you think of those eyeball canes? jude: Does he deliver? Fearless Leader: looks like the three bears are going out to party chelyha: LOL Jude! buci131: heehee jude: I'll send you my address. chelyha: the eyeball cane is great from what I saw dahs512: I sent NJ some raw canes chelyha: did you post pics of yours? chelyha: I remember seeing an eyeball cane dahs512: NJ did you enlarge them, or did I send you some big enough to do those eyes? dahs512: I did two dahs512: with different methods dahs512: one blue and one green Fearless Leader: I had to reduce the cane for these eyes, the cane was perfect, as are you! dahs512: quit it ladytex49 joined the room buci131: Hi Lynnette--you made it! jude: Those things make me nervous, staring at me. Fearless Leader: Lady Tex I sent you an invite for the cam ladytex49: Hi y'all...I am learningeverday I think...guess tehr eis still hope for me.. dahs512: I made an eyeball out of it and everyone was trying to put it in like a monacle buci131: I think we were just about to get into some face sculpting Fearless Leader: it's fun, this will be a pin, Lynette you having difficulty seeing cam? dahs512: a flat eyeball Fearless Leader: someone help her while I eat buci131: after NJ finishes her BBQ jude: Its' very Egyptian. ladytex49: I have a cam but need to set up more lighting in here to use it... Fearless Leader: please, I meant to say Fearless Leader: you don't need to use your cam dahs512: no, do you see NJ's cam Fearless Leader: unless you got something to show us, LOL dahs512: right click on her name Fearless Leader: going to wash my hands Fearless Leader: brb dahs512: then chose view webcam ladytex49: I havent gotten the invite...try sending it again... buci131: do you have NJ's Yahoo ID on your friend's list? buci131: Lynnette, do you see Fearless Leader on the list at the right of the chat room box? dahs512: anyone have the link handy to update yahoo messenger? ladytex49: No I dont have NJ's yahoo id on my friends list... Fearless Leader: Lynette Fearless Leader: do you see Fearless Leader in the list of people here in chat? Fearless Leader: with the TV icon on it? dahs512: http://messenger.yahoo.com/ Fearless Leader: That's me, NJ dahs512: she needs to update chelyha: I never see that, what is it? Fearless Leader: ha ya, ok dahs512: I'll talk her through it Fearless Leader: thank you honey ladytex49 left the room Fearless Leader: while Denise is doing that kindness to Lynette Fearless Leader: what shall we do next? Fearless Leader: we had noses and eyes, or we can do face sculpting dahs512: I can do both Fearless Leader: your choice, I'm just picking my teeth and having a smoke and coffee break dahs512: lol buci131: aren't noses and eyes part of face sculpting? chelyha: I really have trouble with the eyes dahs512: lips! Fearless Leader: we did eyes by themselves today buci131: sounds like face sculpting--since we want it all Fearless Leader: sounds like it ladytex49 joined the room ladytex49: I am back...that didnt take long... Fearless Leader: shall we go from a blank face to one with features? Fearless Leader: Welcome back Lynette chelyha: sounds good to me Fearless Leader: shall we work large? Fearless Leader: instead of small? ladytex49: whatever..I am following tonight Fearless Leader: work on the skull form? dahs512: can you see NJ webcam? Fearless Leader: Lynette we got to make sure you can see honey chelyha: as long as the same techniques apply, but then they would I guess Fearless Leader: sent you a cam invite, Lynette ladytex49: Nope... Fearless Leader: did you reboot after the upgrade to Yahoo Messenger? dahs512: just say yes...lol Fearless Leader: that might be the case now jude: I have got to get going. Great demo, NJ! Thanks! See youz all tomorrow. Night! Fearless Leader: Ciao Aunt Jude chelyha: nite Jude ladytex49: Nope..be right back... Fearless Leader: see you tomorrow dahs512: By Jude greatauntjudy left the room ladytex49 left the room buci131: NIght Jude. yes--blank face to one with features chelyha: yes that is what I would like too. dahs512: lips dahs512: juicy ones chelyha: that way she'll cover all the parts we need help with dahs512: elvis lips dahs512: lol dahs512: or teefers dahs512: That face definately needs some teeth chelyha: whoa, teeth would be hard to do buci131: Keanu Reeves in the Matrix chelyha: for lips? ladytex49 joined the room buci131: no, the skull she just had up--no mouth chelyha: oh ladytex49: Now I am back... dahs512: good right click on MSATclayart dahs512: then view webcam dahs512: let us know when you can see chelyha: ooh it's C3PO ladytex49: I can see... dahs512: Hurrah!!! buci131: yippeee! dahs512: Let's roll ladytex49: yeahhhhhhh ladytex49: Thanks for the help y'all... buci131: We starting with a blank face/skull and then moving into expressions dahs512: The face is a cooked head, right? ladytex49: Oh thought Iwas lookin in th emirror dahs512: dahs512: oops ladytex49: s'ok dahs512: i didn't mean to do that one ladytex49: that is one of my favs... ladytex49: What is this skull made of?? buci131: my fave dahs512: clay covered with foil ladytex49: Ohhh ok...why is it covered with foil? dahs512: to save it for next time dahs512: I think we are using it as a form ladytex49: Ohhh ok..I am new to this as well...took one sculpting class, it was just for one day and he was teaching to sculpt to make molds out of the sculpt... Fearless Leader: I got to go wash my hands, brb ladytex49: This is a pretty big head isnt it? ladytex49: By all means go wash those nasty things dahs512: i don't know buci131: she said she would do a larger one--I think so we can see it better dahs512: what size...half buci131: don't have a clue buci131: whoa ladytex49: Ohh ok...I mean when it shows her hands with it it is pretty good sized...but it would be hard to see anything much smaller on here I guess... buci131: the size of her hand dahs512: hand size Fearless Leader: ok dahs512: k ladytex49: okey dokey Fearless Leader: the skin color is, white, translucent and burnt umber Fearless Leader: generic caucasian Fearless Leader: so we need to decide Fearless Leader: man or woman? Fearless Leader: young or old ladytex49: Are you using Sculpey or Fimo or What? Fearless Leader: pretty or horrifying? dahs512: woman for a change? chelyha: woman, middle aged Fearless Leader: I always use Premo because the list gets a discount buci131: pretty Fearless Leader: from Clayalley http://www.clayalley.com dahs512: trailer trash ugly Fearless Leader: butt ugly Fearless Leader: poor darling ladytex49: Yeah middle aged, somewhere in between beautiful and horrifying... Fearless Leader: got a face that looks like 10 miles of bad road? buci131: heehee Fearless Leader: I knew this Texan man Fearless Leader: who I referred to as Billy Joe Jim Bob ladytex49: Michaoes has all their clay on half price thsi wqeek... Fearless Leader: and I was Nora Jean Baby Girl Fearless Leader: he used to say Fearless Leader: "I'd crawl butt nekid across 10 miles of broken glass just to hear you piss on a tin cup from a pay phone." ladytex49: Uhh all my ex'es live in Texas... Fearless Leader: what a charmer Fearless Leader: but I digress Fearless Leader: so female ladytex49: Would win me over I am sure... dahs512: lololol Fearless Leader: Did me Fearless Leader: I tell you Fearless Leader: charmed my pants off quite literally Fearless Leader: LOL Fearless Leader: so we're going to do an older woman's face ladytex49: Thank you for sharing that with us... Fearless Leader: Is that the deal? buci131: works for me Fearless Leader: my pleasure and it definately was chelyha: not ancient old, just middle aged ladytex49: Well if memory serves... Fearless Leader: Gemini moon needs little commercial breaks like that chelyha: or whatever Fearless Leader: ok, so we got some jowl line to consider Fearless Leader: some under the eye business dahs512: tonight is a full moon Fearless Leader: laugh lines Fearless Leader: is it? Wow dahs512: how about a good which dahs512: ha ha ladytex49: I dont hafta look out the window to tell it is a full moon... chelyha: what sign is it in? dahs512: don't know dahs512: witch dahs512: ooops Fearless Leader: ok Fearless Leader: I think I got it Fearless Leader: had to rub my hands together like John Edwards Fearless Leader: improvisational claying Fearless Leader: ok... here we go Fearless Leader: virtual scribes you know the drill Fearless Leader: type what you see, you too Lynette Fearless Leader: type what you see, comments and questions dahs512: ok move something in front of camera Fearless Leader: I get back to the log later when I can read it dahs512: i want to make sure im not dahs512: lol Fearless Leader: how's that? dahs512: ]locked, I'm not dahs512: yea dahs512: I want to see the hat too ladytex49: I see a nose... dahs512: brow ladytex49: brow... ladytex49: and temple dahs512: cheekies ladytex49: ocket structure... dahs512 left the room ladytex49: upper lip and lower chin ladytex49: under chin... dahs512 joined the room buci131: she's adding more clay to the nose buci131: shaping the brow ladytex49: pinching the brow, and eye sockets ladytex49: lips? buci131: so we've got a foil-covered clay skull with clay outlining the eyes, building up the nose and chin ladytex49: that's what it looks like ot me... buci131: adding clay for the lips, yep dahs512: lips buci131: yeah, baby--those look like Elvis lips, right ladytex49: I sure glad I found y'all I might actually learn something dahs512: noooo buci131: looks like she's putting more on the chin and brow dahs512: we are glad you are here buci131: and doing more shaping. buci131: especially when you tell me where Monroe Louisiana is dahs512: ladytex49: about an hour and half east of Shreveport La on I-20 buci131: I'm gonna make you come down and visit--- ladytex49: and where are you? buci131: Ohhhh, never mind--I think you're like six hours away or something dahs512: NJ is using her fingers to shape buci131: New Orleans dahs512: this is new buci131: Mitch--Michelle is in Thibodaux ladytex49: Will bethere next July for a week... dahs512: larger piece to work on buci131: Oh cool buci131: then we'll have to plan a clay day, if it fits in your schedule ladytex49: Sure..will come a day or so early or stay a day or so later... dahs512: She is adding more cheek buci131: ok, she's adding more to the cheeks, kind of closing up the eye sockets more ladytex49: I see that...lookin good... buci131: sure thing, Lynnette--you can probably stay at my house, if you need ladytex49: Who is Lynette??? dahs512: thin chin buci131: Didn't you sign your post as Lynnette? buci131: oops, sorry ladytex49: Nope Loretta buci131: Oh dear--okay, that's righ buci131: right ladytex49: that's ok..was wondering who you were talking to and about ealier... buci131: chelyha: I thought NJ called her Lynette dahs512: long, thinnish chin buci131: I'm going to go duck in a hole and hide for awhile now dahs512: jay leno's mama ladytex49: High cheek bones ladytex49: Nawww the only time I am stickler about my name is if it is on a check..THEN I want it right buci131: heehee--that's a good time for it to be right dahs512: using the crotch of her thumb/finger to form the chion dahs512: chin buci131: Ah, Cheryl, NJ called her that cause I did ladytex49: face is putting on some weight now... dahs512: I have a full size glass head, I might have to try this on buci131: oh, cool idea--lots of clay, though dahs512: forcing the clay to move, she does dahs512: that is my yoda impression ladytex49: yeah but you wouldn't bake it on that glass head would you? I mean just fool around etc for practivce... buci131: you could bake it on the glass head dahs512: I have a full size oven now.... buci131: heehee dahs512: lips dissapeared ladytex49: what is that? buci131: so you don't have to cut your big heads in half to cure them, eh? dahs512: skin? ladytex49: Ohh a sheet of clay.. buci131: she's got a sheet of clay buci131: she's sticking somthing up the nose dahs512: now she brings out the tools buci131: oh, she's smoothing the skin buci131: a bit, it looks like ladytex49: what is she doing now? dahs512: skinning buci131: Looks like she's putting the sheet of skin over the head ladytex49: Ohh I see, she is covering the face with that sheet of clay she had... dahs512: after she formed the facial features, she added a layer of skin dahs512: tricky NJ dahs512: lots of hands on adjustments of the skin dahs512: tools emerge ladytex49: Wish I could "fix"y face so easily dahs512: push, pich, and prod dahs512: pinch dahs512: upper lips built dahs512: a leaf shape, folded length-wise ladytex49: Now there's the upper lip...looks good. dahs512: added skinny side out to the upper lip, one on each side dahs512: lips ta da dahs512: a crescent shape for the bottom lip dahs512: tool used to define ladytex49: made with a circle cut in half and pressed together... ladytex49: making nostrils flare... dahs512: it's the easy breezy way to do nostrils dahs512: whatdo you call that part on the face that is below the nose? ladytex49: upper lip??? dahs512: that dip in the upper lip? dahs512: i bet it has a name ladytex49: probably does... Fearless Leader: I want to talk about noses right now ladytex49: ok... dahs512: k buci131: k Fearless Leader: there is the width of the visible part of the eye Fearless Leader: we use that width of visible eyeball Fearless Leader: as a measure Fearless Leader: the space between the eyes are one eye worth Fearless Leader: also... for sculpting Fearless Leader: under the nose Fearless Leader: is one eye width Fearless Leader: more or less, but it's a good rule of thumb Fearless Leader: ok? Fearless Leader: I want you to be with me before I go on ladytex49: ok..I understand... buci131: ok chelyha: I remember that from high school art class Fearless Leader: ok, now Fearless Leader: when you're sculpting noses Fearless Leader: see how I left the nose solid Fearless Leader: like a pyramid of clay? Fearless Leader: the bottom of which was that one eye width across chelyha: ya Fearless Leader: only when around the mouth Fearless Leader: and the nose bridge dahs512: yes Fearless Leader: and that goofy thing on the center of the lip Fearless Leader: only when those are done Fearless Leader: do you drill the nose holes Fearless Leader: and pull outward to get the sides of the nose Fearless Leader: it'll give you good noses each time Fearless Leader: then you go outside the nose Fearless Leader: add definition to that bowled out bit you pulled out Fearless Leader: when drilling the nose hole, Fearless Leader: everyone with me here? ladytex49: yep.. chelyha: yup Fearless Leader: Any questions as to method up to this point? buci131: no chelyha: no ladytex49: nope dahs512: yes, what do they call the dip in the pper lip? dahs512: upper ladytex49: the dip in the upper lip... dahs512: lol ladytex49: sounds good ta meeeeee Fearless Leader: I can look it up in the anatomy book dahs512: when we do a face off of our little heads dahs512: do we do it like this Fearless Leader: doesn't say Fearless Leader: little faces can be done the same way Fearless Leader: have a foil skull on a stick dahs512: or do we make the mold Fearless Leader: add the mass to the face like underlying muscles dahs512: no, the face off thing Fearless Leader: I'm not understanding your question dahs512: we will be making a mold then filling it ladytex49: neither am I... Fearless Leader: Oh Fearless Leader: ok Fearless Leader: dig dahs512: then manipulating? Fearless Leader: make it all clay Fearless Leader: make it all from scratch the first time out Fearless Leader: make it with a foil head inside ladytex49: you dont use any armature? Fearless Leader: or don't Fearless Leader: I would suggest a foil head ladytex49: Ohh...foil armature..I have done that... Fearless Leader: stuck on a stick Fearless Leader: but building up the mass on that form dahs512: right Fearless Leader: is what I'm saying you can do small or large Fearless Leader: just different mass build up Fearless Leader: using a thin layer of skin after building up the muscles dahs512: did that, now we were going to use that head to make more Fearless Leader: keeps the skin clean, helps with smoothing, that sort of thing Fearless Leader: now we make one expressionless face Fearless Leader: and from that face Fearless Leader: I'd like for us to make molds Fearless Leader: to do expressions from that one mold Fearless Leader: a straight face Fearless Leader: can make Fearless Leader: happy Fearless Leader: sad Fearless Leader: angry Fearless Leader: disgust dahs512: am i just jumping ahead.. Fearless Leader: fear Fearless Leader: and I'm forgetting one more ladytex49: How often do y'all get together on here and do this? Fearless Leader: 6 basic emotional expression are found all over the world, it's on the last day or so of my posts dahs512: as often as we can...lol Fearless Leader: Lynette as often as we can Fearless Leader: LOL Fearless Leader: there ya go, Denise, connected by the third eye dahs512: sychronisity Fearless Leader: Lynette do you got to go? buci131: oop, it's not Lynnette NJ--My Bad chelyha: Loretta, NJ buci131: It's Loretta Fearless Leader: My goodness, I've been referring to her with the wrong name all this time dahs512: me too Fearless Leader: I'm sorry dahs512: so sorry buci131: sorry--I started it Fearless Leader: Loretta, like Loretta Young Fearless Leader: ok, I got her name in my head now, with swirling skirts Fearless Leader: how she used to come into the set on her show ladytex49: Wel I didnt realize I was gonanbe doing this or I would have not taken the pills and I need to do a treatment...Loretta Lynn..thank you very much..Hughes as in Howard, but no ki Fearless Leader: those dresses dahs512: and a big guitar Fearless Leader: So you're fading on us Loretta? Fearless Leader: baby we're going to do this again Fearless Leader: and we have been almost every day Fearless Leader: sometimes a day off or two inbetween but it's becoming a regular thing Fearless Leader: time for a log save? ladytex49: yeah I am gonna start typing with my nose soon . I am sorry...I wanna do this... dahs512: it's a ride you can jump on whenever you can
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