The End of Shady Sadie
Fearless Leader: we use your Eyeball Cane
dahs512: sure
dbluwitch26: gotcha
Fearless Leader: Denise sent me eyeball cane
Fearless Leader: and I got it today just in time for this demo
Fearless Leader: how cool is that
Fearless Leader: on a full moon
dahs512: very
Fearless Leader: I'm all ticklish about it
Fearless Leader: eeeeeeeeee
Fearless Leader: he he he
Fearless Leader: ok, starting with a bit of pearl
Fearless Leader: for the whites
Fearless Leader: I'm only going to roll an oval ball
Fearless Leader: the size of the visible part of the eye
Fearless Leader: not the whole golf ball sized eyeball
dbluwitch26: i want to do an eyeball one day in demo, do-able?
Fearless Leader: Sure
Fearless Leader: just let Eva know
Fearless Leader: she's my keeper
dbluwitch26: damn you're doing an eye ball now
Fearless Leader: Dag I thought you meant a demo on eyeball cane
Fearless Leader: sorry
Fearless Leader: ya we're doing eyes now
Fearless Leader: the Eyes Have It!!
Fearless Leader: LOL
Fearless Leader: so here's the oval of pearl that I slice in half
Fearless Leader: laying it on the flat eye expanse there
Fearless Leader: here I go..
dbluwitch26: ok i guess i just want it all, i'll settle down
Fearless Leader: now why did I just do that
Fearless Leader: extra brownie points for those who know
Fearless Leader: what does this represent to you?
dahs512: to show sizes
dbluwitch26: size
dahs512: how wide
chelyha: to check your measurment
Fearless Leader: eye width
Fearless Leader: is our measure
Fearless Leader: our rule of thumb
Fearless Leader: let's test it and see if I did ok
Fearless Leader: bottom of the nose one eye width
Fearless Leader: now the space between the eyes have to be one eye
width too
Fearless Leader: faces across this line
Fearless Leader: should be five eye widths
Fearless Leader: so they say
Fearless Leader: so this face would be considered
Fearless Leader: narrow
Fearless Leader: at the temples
Fearless Leader: looks spookie just like that
Fearless Leader: now they say that there's a triangle
Fearless Leader: side of the mouth
Fearless Leader: to the edge of the face
Fearless Leader: those are the measures this one guy says is a general
rule
Fearless Leader: let's put them wandering eyes where they belong
dahs512: NJ i forgot to do shots
dahs512: I'll start now
Fearless Leader: that's cool honey
dahs512: 1
Fearless Leader: that leaf cutter tool
Fearless Leader: is the size we need for cutting out eyelids
Fearless Leader: I cut one leaf
Fearless Leader: and slice it down the middle
dahs512: 2
chelyha: it looks like a Borg
Fearless Leader: for the two upper eyelids
Fearless Leader: resistance is futile
Fearless Leader: but let's get some iris and pupil in there first
chelyha: lol
dahs512: I'll be taking screen shots, when someone sees a good one
scream shot
dahs512: 3
chelyha: I gotta get me some of those shaping tools
dahs512: lol
dbluwitch26: ok
Fearless Leader: here is Denise's Eyeball cane
dahs512: 3rd eye
Fearless Leader: a bit of it
Fearless Leader: I'm going to shape the small end of it
Fearless Leader: to fit the hole I just made in the pearl
Fearless Leader: ouch
Fearless Leader: there's something in my eye
Fearless Leader: find where you need to cut the cane
Fearless Leader: this way
Fearless Leader: make a hole
Fearless Leader: make one end of the cane cone shape
dahs512: 4
Fearless Leader: to fit
Fearless Leader: make a mark on the cane
Fearless Leader: take it out of the hole and slize
Fearless Leader: slice also
Fearless Leader: LOL
Fearless Leader: like this
dahs512: 5
dahs512: 6
Fearless Leader: and again
dahs512: 7
dahs512: 8
Fearless Leader: shoot this, good
dahs512: 9
dahs512: 10
dahs512: tilt to see
Fearless Leader: when you think eyeballs are cock eyed
Fearless Leader: look at the face
Fearless Leader: in the mirror
Fearless Leader: upside down too
Fearless Leader: you'll see where they are wayward easier that way
Fearless Leader: than looking face on
Fearless Leader: that's because our brains are hardwired
Fearless Leader: to make faces out of anything, everything
Fearless Leader: no matter how coo coo
Fearless Leader: it's our baby thing
Fearless Leader: we got to focus on faces
Fearless Leader: and laugh a coo
Fearless Leader: so they feed us
Fearless Leader: and are amused
Fearless Leader: so we got to by pass that hardwiring
chelyha: I always look at my portraits in the mirror to see if I got
the proportions right
Fearless Leader: when sculpting
Fearless Leader: yes yes
Fearless Leader: exactly
Fearless Leader: we got to look at our work in the mirror
Fearless Leader: and upside down
Fearless Leader: from all angles
Fearless Leader: to make sure it's a GO
Fearless Leader: now let's get rid of this startled look
Fearless Leader: by giving it some half leaf eyelids, ok?
dahs512: i think you are cock-eyed
dahs512: lol
dahs512: good
dahs512: maybe a little wide
dahs512: eyed
Fearless Leader: I think the eyes can be fiddled with a bit more but
I'm not slowing down for that
dahs512: k
Fearless Leader: I'll fiddle with what ends up showing
Fearless Leader: right now if I fiddle
Fearless Leader: I might be doing arm pits on sleeves that are hanging
down
Fearless Leader: in the end
Fearless Leader: LOL
dahs512: I hate telling you that stuff any way
Fearless Leader: naw, go ahead
dahs512: A teardrop piece for the top bridge of the nose
dahs512: crescents for the upper lids
dahs512: 11
chelyha: that leaf shape folded in half
dahs512: 12
dahs512: speak up folks, if you can
dahs512: 13
chelyha: whoa, very cool.
dahs512 left the room
chelyha: that leaf shape is useful for a lot of things
Fearless Leader: I'll wait for Denise to come back
Fearless Leader: questions are good about now
Fearless Leader: let Denise come on back
dbluwitch26: can i ask quich what you used for filler under the foil
dahs512 joined the room
dahs512: wait
Fearless Leader: there she is, no worries, I stopped when I say you
fell off
Fearless Leader: Dag, more foil
Fearless Leader: foil and more foil
Fearless Leader: LOL
dahs512: they logged me off
dbluwitch26: oh wow
chelyha: will you bake the face on the foil?
dahs512: hang on for 2 secs
Fearless Leader: no worries Denise
Fearless Leader: we're asking and answering questions while you set up
Fearless Leader: don't fret
Fearless Leader: Let me show you something
dbluwitch26: is this a mask or for a very large doll
dahs512: ok ready
Fearless Leader: that's the for I use for my masks
Fearless Leader: it's foil
Fearless Leader: and more foil
Fearless Leader: and covered with white old crappy Sculpey
Fearless Leader: I put foil on it
Fearless Leader: put clay on the foil
Fearless Leader: and cure the whole mess all at once
Fearless Leader: so this form has been cured a dozen times
Fearless Leader: at least
Fearless Leader: work horse
Fearless Leader: same with the skull that is under this face I'm doing
dbluwitch26: quite a process
dahs512: 14
Fearless Leader: it's so incremental you don't notice it really
chelyha: it looks like a piece of ancient sculpture
dahs512: you pulled the head out?
dbluwitch26: old bones
dahs512: scared
dahs512: too cool
dbluwitch26: uh huh
chelyha: oh so you put the foil over that mold and then put clay on
that. Fascinating
dahs512: 15
Fearless Leader: ok here are the lower lids
Fearless Leader: we don't need as much as the upper one
chelyha: I can see why making it look sort of like a skull makes so
much sense
dahs512: 16
dahs512: 17
chelyha: NJ are you going to do this demo again?
chelyha: I am fading...
dahs512: 18
dahs512: 19
dahs512: She just keeps on ticking
Fearless Leader: sorry
dahs512: I'm sure she'll do it again at a later date
Fearless Leader: I'll do this again
Fearless Leader: just request through Eva
dahs512: 20
Fearless Leader: we'll set a time, but folks got to vote in the polls
Fearless Leader: for good times and such all
Fearless Leader: it helps a lot with scheduling stuff
chelyha: well I don't have to work tomorrow so I will try to stay with
you awhile longer
dahs512: hang in there
Fearless Leader: what I'm doing here is adding leaf shapes
Fearless Leader: to age the face
Fearless Leader: remember we wanted a mature face
Fearless Leader: well got to get those bags under the eyes
Fearless Leader: the ones you're getting from staying up too late
dahs512: saggy baggy?
Fearless Leader: LOL
Fearless Leader: ad need laugh lines from the edge of the nose
Fearless Leader: to the side of the mouth
dbluwitch26: people pay good money to get rid of those things any here
you are happily building them
dahs512: lol
dbluwitch26: looks tired already
dahs512: 21
dahs512: 22
chelyha: a crone
dahs512: lol
dahs512: 23
dbluwitch26: this is looking tooo familiar
dahs512: 24 she's smiling
dbluwitch26: i like the wistfull smile
chelyha: put a cleft in her chin
dahs512: 25
dahs512: 26
Fearless Leader: there
dahs512: 27
Fearless Leader: a happy mature woman
Fearless Leader: with thyroid eyes
Fearless Leader: got to do something with them eyes
Fearless Leader: LOL
Fearless Leader: but what did I do to show age?
Fearless Leader: you tell me
dahs512: I was going to say with a brain tumaor
dahs512: tumor
chelyha: you mean they stick out too far?
dahs512: too far looking to the sides
chelyha: you added lines and made the skin look a little saggy
Fearless Leader: I need to actually build up the area around the eye
Fearless Leader: and not reduce the eye any
Fearless Leader: add flesh is all
dbluwitch26: gave her the look of gravity
dahs512: she actually looks pretty realistic
Fearless Leader: gravity and lack of elasticity in the skin
Fearless Leader: but she is still there
Fearless Leader: under the wrinkles
chelyha: she looks like she's been in the sun a lot in her life
Fearless Leader: under the lines of age
dbluwitch26: sad but true
dahs512: 9 rum and cokes
Fearless Leader: she's still looking for fun
dahs512: under her skin
Fearless Leader: got a merry grin
dbluwitch26: bad night for sure
Fearless Leader: saying, "Young man, you just don't know what you're
in for, do you?"
dahs512: I love her chin
chelyha: now I want to try this for sure
dbluwitch26: she has a secret
dahs512: i bet she can play pool
Fearless Leader: she has no eyebrows
chelyha: I have done portraits for 33 years
Fearless Leader: no eyelashes
Fearless Leader: no blush or lip gloss
Fearless Leader: just woke up
chelyha: but no sculpture
dahs512: a new medium
dbluwitch26: I did courtroom art
chelyha: ooh, cool!
Fearless Leader: there
dbluwitch26: bare bone fast and furious
Fearless Leader: she's ready to face the day
chelyha: LOL!!!
dahs512: 28
dbluwitch26: coffee cup
dahs512: 28
chelyha: looks kinda like my next door neighbor, except she is blonde
Fearless Leader: LOL
chelyha: biker mama
Fearless Leader: just had to do that
dahs512: NJ i don't know why, but my numbers for shots are off by one
Fearless Leader: we got a shot of the shades?
Fearless Leader: don't worry
dahs512: 29
Fearless Leader: you get what you get
Fearless Leader: you know I'm easy
Fearless Leader: now she looks a little real
Fearless Leader: if we took some make up and gave her a dusting
dahs512: I don't know when i slid
Fearless Leader: let's do that and then return the props
dbluwitch26: the woman needs a light
dahs512: let me save the log real quick
dahs512: k?
dahs512: NJ!
dahs512: I'll roll with it
dahs512: make-up on the cheeks
dahs512: 30
dahs512: from now on the numbers will be right
dahs512: 32
dahs512: 33
dbluwitch26: that really warmed her up
dahs512: oooh baby
dbluwitch26: she has a terrible cigarette cleft
chelyha: she's a tough old broad
dahs512: 34
dbluwitch26: oh it's back
dahs512: 35
dbluwitch26: does look like she's been around
dahs512: trailer trash smokin' g'ma
chelyha: LOL!
dbluwitch26: bet she swears
dahs512: be still my heart
Fearless Leader: there
chelyha: I picture her at a slot machine in Vegas
dahs512: 36
Fearless Leader: she got my smoke
Fearless Leader: now the thing I have about dolls are
Fearless Leader: they aim to look pretty all the time
Fearless Leader: most of the time
Fearless Leader: those that aim to look bad
Fearless Leader: look gruesome
Fearless Leader: none look real
Fearless Leader: this old gal is real
Fearless Leader: she watches the soaps
Fearless Leader: she drinks beers
Fearless Leader: she still likes to go dancing
dahs512: I know a lady that resemble her
Fearless Leader: she's got post menopausal zeal
dahs512: s
Fearless Leader: we all know this gal
dbluwitch26: wish i had some
dahs512: she has a drunk look
Fearless Leader: oh she's a couple of sheets to the wind
Fearless Leader: listening to some story some guy is telling her
Fearless Leader: wondering if he lives near by
dahs512: you bet
Fearless Leader: and is she going to get lucky
Fearless Leader: if she is lucky
Fearless Leader: she'll keep track of that danged story
dbluwitch26: trucker
Fearless Leader: just in case he asks her for her opinion
Fearless Leader: "Oh sorry, dear, I can't hear you when I'm looking at
you."
dahs512: let me get the log
Fearless Leader: she says if he should ask anything
Fearless Leader: ok
chelyha: Hahahaha!
chelyha: Ok now I can go to bed.
Fearless Leader: I heard that line for real. A woman much like this
said that to a deli guy when he was asking her about the sandwich
order
chelyha: This was great NJ, thanks again
Fearless Leader: my pleasure
Fearless Leader: I hope you get into doing faces
Fearless Leader: they have a lot of potential
dbluwitch26: sweet dreams
chelyha: I think I will. I have the background in 2 dimensional
portraitsl
Fearless Leader: Dag, is Pa near by
chelyha: Good night all
Fearless Leader: I want him to see
dahs512: i gotta brb
Fearless Leader: nighty night Cheryl
dbluwitch26: god he has been laughing his but off
Fearless Leader: he he he Hi Pa!!
chelyha left the room
Fearless Leader: like your new girlfriend?
Fearless Leader: there's her best look
Fearless Leader: sad
dbluwitch26: hey there, where my hat
Fearless Leader: have you not seen the hat?
dahs512: zacly
dbluwitch26: oops he did say where is
dahs512: zackly
Fearless Leader: I got to change camera angles to show Pa the hat,
hold on
dahs512: she does need a hat
dbluwitch26: he loves the hat but i think he's got a thing for the
little thing in the hat too
dahs512: lol
dahs512: be still
dbluwitch26: damn young lady, too bad you live across town
dbluwitch26: the old guy is gettin young thoughts
dahs512: shot
dahs512: 38
dahs512: 39
dbluwitch26: the woman with you has had it
dahs512: you are so bad
dahs512: 40
dahs512: 41
dbluwitch26: got kind of an abe lincoln look in that shot
dahs512: you looked like the doll
dahs512: she was the ?
Fearless Leader: back
dahs512: how funny
Fearless Leader: what?
dahs512: you had so much charachter in her
Fearless Leader: I'm saying the whole doll making thing is just too
boring for me
dahs512: that you looked like the doll
Fearless Leader: the dolls are boring
Fearless Leader: Ya, all faces are mine
Fearless Leader: left to my own devices
Fearless Leader: her bags are my bags
Fearless Leader: her sags are my sags
dahs512: I don't know what else to call her
Fearless Leader: she's me in time
Fearless Leader: Sadie
Fearless Leader: she's a Sadie Lady for sure
Fearless Leader: not a hard hearted Hanna
Fearless Leader: just a sad hard life this gal
Fearless Leader: no rancor in her
Fearless Leader: just tired a bit
dahs512: what i was trying to say was she is so full of
....stuff...your youthful face seemed less defined
Fearless Leader: So it's midnight
dahs512: it's 2 here
dbluwitch26: no it's 2 am
Fearless Leader: older faces have more potential for expression
Fearless Leader: how did they age
dahs512: she seems so real
Fearless Leader: did they age hard
Fearless Leader: or did they grow old gracefully
Fearless Leader: did they look like they didn't get protection from
the sun all their lives
dahs512: all my elders look like her
Fearless Leader: or live in a castel with deep windows
Fearless Leader: ya, the elders on my dad's side look like this
Fearless Leader: maybe heftier though
dahs512: zactly
Fearless Leader: the Brummet women are a big lot
Fearless Leader: Brummett, my own maiden name I leave out a T
Fearless Leader: LOL
dahs512: what a fun ride
dbluwitch26: me and mine toobut fleshier
dahs512: where's her drink?
Fearless Leader: and there's nothing wrong with making faces like
this, that look like folks we know
Fearless Leader: or have known
Fearless Leader: why should all dolls be young, pretty, with perfect
bodies, more of the stupid programming
Fearless Leader: like I want my life ruled by the American Pornography
Industry
dahs512: no berbies for me
Fearless Leader: air brush my scars
Fearless Leader: no way
dahs512: barbies
Fearless Leader: hide my wrinkles
Fearless Leader: or gray hair
Fearless Leader: no way
dahs512: i earned all my character
Fearless Leader: I am as God allowed me to be this far
dbluwitch26: that's why i wanted to get into the clay to make real
faces
Fearless Leader: ya, I earned my stretch marks in the battle of
birthing
Fearless Leader: real faces
dahs512: marks of honor
Fearless Leader: and with the aging of the baby boomers
Fearless Leader: it relates
Fearless Leader: to folks
Fearless Leader: who now have disposable income
dahs512: or used to
Fearless Leader: My Capricorn rising and Jupiter come into play with
this
Fearless Leader: still do more than the young ones
Fearless Leader: they are still buying feathers and bones for the
mating dance
dahs512: I relate to the less smooth
Fearless Leader: takes up their resources
Fearless Leader: well I'm done for the night
dahs512: in real life...they are the torytellers
dahs512: story
Fearless Leader: been here since 3 this afternoon
Fearless Leader: with a 20 minute break
Fearless Leader: so I'm bushed
dahs512: I'll let you go and I will clip and send what i got
Fearless Leader: coolness
Fearless Leader: the pix can just go into the Epson
dahs512: later sweetie
dbluwitch26: been another great night don't know how you can sit soooo
long in one day
Fearless Leader: I sculpt standing up
Fearless Leader: LOL
Fearless Leader: dance to latin music
Fearless Leader: LOL
dahs512: I don't know how to do the Epson
Fearless Leader: truth be known
Fearless Leader: I'll send you a private message with the info, ok?
dbluwitch26: ahhh the thing ya don't see
dahs512: k
Fearless Leader: so it's not in the log
dahs512: I'll do in minyana
dahs512: sp...lol
Fearless Leader: ok, well night night Dag
Fearless Leader: I'm glad Pa got a laugh
dbluwitch26: well i'm off for the night, sweet dreams
Fearless Leader: you too
Fearless Leader: xoxo
dbluwitch26: he laughed big time
Fearless Leader: good
Fearless Leader: LOL
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