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Clay Techniques- 01: Tin of 9-15-2002 WebCam Demo |
NEW DEMO You are in "*g.MSATClayArt:1" ( ) jude (greatauntjudy) joined the room jude: Okie! Fearless Leader: I had to reboot twice Fearless Leader: man Fearless Leader: I couldn't get YM to work Fearless Leader: I shut it down Fearless Leader: and opened it up Fearless Leader: and still sylsnovelties: I thought you were gone for the night. I've been having trouble with it tonight too. Fearless Leader: made my cursor disappear, I had no idea where I was on the screen, clicking like a nut case Fearless Leader: so I shut it down Fearless Leader: and it took the longest to get back on again Fearless Leader: sorry about that sylsnovelties: My words are all jumbled together. Fearless Leader: then Hilda needed her garbage taken out jude: Jumbled together, Syl? Fearless Leader: Niki I don't have you as being a viewer with cam Fearless Leader: is there any difficulty? sylsnovelties: Yeah, my letters look like they are running into each other. jude: Crash, huh? Fearless Leader: Not to me, Syl, they looked all ok to me jude: Ok here, too. Fearless Leader: want to go out and come back in and see if that helps? NikiT: sorry.. my attention was elsewhere.. i'm at work so i ahve to divide my attention. Fearless Leader: Oh You're at WORK sylsnovelties: It's just mine, everyone else's looks fine. Fearless Leader: you girl you NikiT: ya. jude: Yuck, working nights is the pits. Fearless Leader: Reminds me of working at AOL Fearless Leader: we had a thousand IM windows open all the time Fearless Leader: that's how the workers keep in touch NikiT: i dunno. i kind of like working nights. a lot slower. Fearless Leader: so chatting is "expected" Fearless Leader: better pay most times too, Night Shift NikiT: it's technically "banned" here, but they don't enforce it Fearless Leader: My mother worked as a Cocktail Waitress so we lived nights Fearless Leader: so what shall I make for all y'all sylsnovelties: The only time I worked nights was when I was waitressing. Fearless Leader: shall I do the armature again Fearless Leader: and cover it with skin? Fearless Leader: or shall we sculpt faces Fearless Leader: or do hands Fearless Leader: or make canes Fearless Leader: or raise cane? jude: Oh, gee...raise cane always works for me. sylsnovelties: Lots of choices! heeheehee Fearless Leader: I'm pretty much open to suggestions Fearless Leader: LOL Fearless Leader: I do have some leaf sheets done Fearless Leader: and a bunch of sheets for basket weave jude: Cover something. Fearless Leader: a tin? jude: Yeah, that would work. Fearless Leader: do a sheet and cover a tin, ok sylsnovelties: I did my first tin! heeheehee Fearless Leader: I might have enough of last night's cane left over jude: Show us how you keep it smooth. I really do have problems with that. Fearless Leader: ok, sure, that's a good idea Fearless Leader: who's doing logs and shots? jude: sylsnovelties: me jude: Her. sylsnovelties: Geez, Jude jude: You said it first...hehehehe sylsnovelties: True Fearless Leader: Syl is doing both? jude: Yes. sylsnovelties: Yup, I ususally do Fearless Leader: Thanks honey sylsnovelties: I do it for myself and if anyone needs it, I have it. jude: I have leaf cutters like those you have there. jude: I use them for flower petals all the time. Fearless Leader: That's what I used for muscle mass sylsnovelties: smartie! heeheehee Fearless Leader: in covering the armature jude: they are perfect, Syl. sylsnovelties: I'll bet! jude: I have a bunch of smaller cutters in different shapes I use for petals, too. jude: It givs me the basic shape and then I mash and stretch. sylsnovelties: Good idea. jude: Did you see the ghost there for a sec? sylsnovelties: yikes jude: On the web cam? Fearless Leader: what a reflection in the mirror?\ sylsnovelties: I must have been blinking, I missed it. jude: Naw...a ghost...looked right at me. hehehehe jude: You have a mirror there still? sylsnovelties: You're the only one that saw that Jude! jude: Oh, geez...must have been dinner. Had linguini with clam sauce. sylsnovelties: Yum sylsnovelties: I skipped dinner tonight. jude: Bad girl. jude: Okie, she has a tin out. jude: Doncha love her little rolling pin? sylsnovelties: Yup sylsnovelties: You do the commentary, Jude. jude: I have a few small round tins I want to cover too. jude: Okie, I will give it a go. jude: she also has a ruler there. sylsnovelties: no kidding. jude: I hate this thing when the ads change. Everything comes to a screeching halt for a bit. sylsnovelties: See what I put up with NJ? She is such a smartie! jude: Okie, NJ has placed some clay, I believe on top of the tin. Hunks of clay. Fearless Leader: better than dumb friends jude: checking colors? sylsnovelties: heeheehee jude: there, see Syl? NJ understands. sylsnovelties: Ganging up on me jude: Oh, wait. the hunk of clay on the left looks like multiple-color layers. jude: kinda like an ice cream bar. Fearless Leader: the colors from last night sylsnovelties: Sheets from last night. jude: I must find out why everything looks like food to me. sylsnovelties: Yeah, you make me hungy sylsnovelties: hungry too. sylsnovelties: OOh, pretty tin NJ. jude: There is a box she covered last night. jude: Nice! jude: It must be sheets of leaves. jude: great colors. Fearless Leader: that's what we're going to do right now Fearless Leader: that color combo Fearless Leader: pressed thin Fearless Leader: well sylsnovelties: I like the right one. jude: Okie, sounds like a plan. Fearless Leader: pressed to the widest opening of the pasta machine Fearless Leader: then back with black jude: I do, too, Syl. Fearless Leader: then chevron flip jude: Love that chevron flip. Fearless Leader: then press to the sheet sylsnovelties: me too Fearless Leader: and THEN Fearless Leader: cover the tin jude: Neat! sylsnovelties: ok, game for that. Fearless Leader: ok, I'm just doing up some black and I'll make more cane with this yummy combo Fearless Leader: did you see the pix of the tins on the pix list? Fearless Leader: I sent them through there jude: Yes, I sure did. Fearless Leader: these are them, uncured just yet sylsnovelties: I haven't read my mail. I'll check it quick. jude: I will have to start answering mail one of these days. When I'm in the blahs I ignor e things. Fearless Leader: go for it, I won't get to the tin for a while yet sylsnovelties: OOh, gorgeous!!! jude: I want to watch. jude: I have been looking at any pictures that have been sent, though, and have saved them to comment on. sylsnovelties: good idea. sylsnovelties: You must have extra arms, NJ. jude: The ghost is helping her. sylsnovelties: Ahhh Fearless Leader: just using a sheet of these scraps of color for the center of the vein sylsnovelties: good idea. jude: NJ is playing with some clay, getting it ready to use. jude: Ah, a closeup of the fist of doom. jude: And, there is the chevron flipped. jude: Reducing? Using the fist of doom. sylsnovelties: fist of crunch? heeheehee jude: Ok, through the PM again. jude: And, fold. jude: And stack. Fearless Leader: no folding jude: No folding. Fearless Leader: ran like 5 layers through the widest setting of the PM Fearless Leader: then put it on a black sheet Fearless Leader: done at the widest setting Fearless Leader: I have no idea what I'm doing Fearless Leader: just making different size lines jude: Okie. sylsnovelties: heeheehee Those are the best. Fearless Leader: for the chevron flip Fearless Leader: one thick Fearless Leader: and this one with many little lines Fearless Leader: I hope jude: Sounds good. Fearless Leader: sylsnovelties: jude: Slice and stack. jude: Interesting. Fearless Leader: instead of reducing lines from thick sheets Fearless Leader: press the sheets and stack Fearless Leader: keeps the lines crisp Fearless Leader: not wiggly sylsnovelties: Looking good. jude: Good idea! Fearless Leader: 2 minutes, I got to get something jude: I didn't see it, but do you trim the sides as you go along? jude: Okie. jude: We could sing the bologna song, Syl. jude: Well, maybe we better not. sylsnovelties: Oh no! sylsnovelties: We don't want to be kicked out. jude: She got a Coke! Fearless Leader: LOL jude: You're right. We won't. jude: I have a 7UP here. Fearless Leader: so what was that question? Fearless Leader: do I trim as I go along? jude: I didnt' see it, but did you trim the sides as you went along? Fearless Leader: ya, when you reduce you want clean lines jude: It is very even looking. jude: Like a deck of cards. sylsnovelties: Sure is. jude: Oh, I like that. Fearless Leader: ok I'm going to do the flip on this jude: It is all different, the stripes. jude: Reminded me of strata. jude: Cutting on the diagonal. jude: Flipping one side completely over. and rejoining. jude: Hmmm....interesting. jude: that's purty! sylsnovelties: Really nice looking. Fearless Leader: the color isn't showing up jude: You know, you could use some chop and toss as a layer and make some smaller. I bet that would look good, too. jude: Reducing using the fist of doom. jude: Fingers and palm of doom too! sylsnovelties: Yowza jude: All those crazy colors. jude: that's nice, very nice. jude: You end up with such vivid colors. jude: It reminds me a little of that fossil stone. jude: that one on the right is just great. jude: All reduced. jude: A sheet of black. sylsnovelties: for veins, right. sylsnovelties: hmmm, maybe not. jude: I think she is going to put slices fromt he canes on it. jude: Then press. sylsnovelties: ahhh jude: Yes. jude: One sheet of black. Take slices from the chevron-flip/leaf cane and place on the black sheet. jude: She is doing in it rows, it looks like. jude: They are places next to each other, barely touching. jude: Going to a second row, and so forth, to cover the sheet of black. jude: They are placed next to each other, not places...sigh... jude: All are oriented the same way, all headed in the same direction. sylsnovelties: they look like they just appear on the sheet sometimes. heeheehee jude: I know, the ghost! sylsnovelties: he's helping. jude: I think it's a female ghost! sylsnovelties: Oh she jude: Of course, most good things are female. sylsnovelties: heeheehee sylsnovelties: Except Bill and my boys! heeheehee jude: Well, of course. jude: Whata guy. jude: did you tell him about Roxie? jude: Slicing more to put on the black sheet. sylsnovelties: Yes. He felt bad. jude: Now the whole shebang goes through the pm. jude: great effect. jude: More slices? sylsnovelties: For depth. sylsnovelties: Probably smaller too. jude: Oh, yeah. jude: Pam of doom, mashing the smaller slices into the sheet. jude: Pam of doom? Hmmm...that should be Palm of Doom. sylsnovelties: heeheehee jude: It doesn't show now, but I used to be able to type 80 WPM with no errors. jude: sigh... sylsnovelties: heeheehee I used to be able to too. jude: Looks like the smaller slices are placed where the larger ones didn't cover, where any black sheet is showing. jude: Use Fingers of Doom to press them down a bit. jude: Now, the whole shebang goes back through the pm. jude: Lookie that. that's purty! sylsnovelties: Looks great jude: Two different canes and color schemes there and it looks great. sylsnovelties: Sure seems to work out good. jude: You know? When I fool with clay that way it never looks like that when I'm done. sylsnovelties: mine either. heeheehee sylsnovelties: Mine is stretched out of shape. Fearless Leader: ok Fearless Leader: I'll take questions now jude: What thickness do you do with the pm? sylsnovelties: those colors work out great together. Fearless Leader: all the way up to the end Fearless Leader: it was at the widest setting Fearless Leader: then at the end jude: Thickest? Okie. Fearless Leader: I narrow it one Fearless Leader: and then press Fearless Leader: narrow it one more Fearless Leader: and then press jude: Okie, that's exactly what I do now, believe it or not. Fearless Leader: now remember how small that original black bit was? Fearless Leader: and these additional slices added length jude: My pm goes to 7 and 7 is the thickest. Different than the Atlas or Imperi-whatever. Fearless Leader: when they were pressed jude: Right, added clay to it, so it got longer. Fearless Leader: Ok there's a tute page I want to get first Fearless Leader: and then I'll cover the tin jude: Okie. sylsnovelties: How do you hold that and roll it at the same time>? jude: He must have an arm of doom, too. jude: I sure can't. sylsnovelties: to keep it from sticking together. Fearless Leader: I have a ghost helping me NikiT: well ladies, it is time for me to go home & enjoy my weekend. thanks for the demo, NJ! sylsnovelties: Nite Niki jude: I need both hands to crank. Fearless Leader: OkieDokie Fearless Leader: see ya Niki jude: Night Niki! sylsnovelties: We thought it was a ghost! Fearless Leader: LOL Fearless Leader: I use two hands to turn the handle Fearless Leader: when I'm conditioning clay Fearless Leader: and being a barbarian sylsnovelties: When I was doing the pleat and fold one. I need an extra arm. azstitcher2001 left the room Fearless Leader: when I'm pressing sheets Fearless Leader: I go really slowly Fearless Leader: making sure nothing folds over Fearless Leader: none of the cane slices fall off Fearless Leader: and when it's done slowly and the clay is warm jude: I left the cutters on mine, so I can drape the clay over the back and crank. Fearless Leader: you can ease out the sheet with one hand Fearless Leader: while you crank with the other jude: It doesn't always go straight that way, but so far it's what works best. Fearless Leader: I'm looking for that url, brb jude: Okie. sylsnovelties: ok Fearless Leader: http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1751108&a=30044494&p=60183707&f=0 Fearless Leader: that picture and go forward 4 pictures Fearless Leader: it shows using the tin to make your cut marks Fearless Leader: by indenting the sheet Fearless Leader: check that out and I am going to the loo sylsnovelties: Darn, that is what I didnt sylsnovelties: do was use the tin for the marks. Fearless Leader: back, say when and I'll start making indentations sylsnovelties: When jude: When! Fearless Leader: LOL Fearless Leader: ok jude: We think alike sometimes, it's really scary. sylsnovelties: sure is sylsnovelties: Except when Jude is being a smartie! heeheehee Fearless Leader: the sheet got stuck on the tin Fearless Leader: LOL jude: I forgot to mark the blue heart box when I covered it. jude: So, while the clay was still unbaked, I eye-balled it and just whacked away. jude: Then cured. it still wasn't right, but I was able to trim it nicely after. sylsnovelties: Good deal Jude. jude: I see...lay the box on the clay and press a tad to make an impression for cutting. sylsnovelties: My tin up close isn't that great. heehehee jude: Roll it over along the clay to make sure to mark an entire sheet so it will fit. jude: Lookie the marks. sylsnovelties: I got a shot of that. jude: Good! Fearless Leader: slice at the hinge mark Fearless Leader: we're going to remove like a 16/th of an inch strip sylsnovelties: See, I did that wrong. jude: You did? You didn't cut out the hinge? sylsnovelties: I did that after the clay was on the tin. Fearless Leader: cutting it ahead of time Fearless Leader: keeps your edges neat jude: Hmmm.... Fearless Leader: and you don't have to handle the tin so much jude: Right, I knew there was a good reason. sylsnovelties: good idea. jude: Two very good reasons. Fearless Leader: at the corners Fearless Leader: I cut out little squares Fearless Leader: the would have been darts Fearless Leader: we would have to cut off anyway Fearless Leader: to cut them now jude: Right. Fearless Leader: keeps the seams relatively neat Fearless Leader: and you don't handle the sheet so much Fearless Leader: watch me screw it up now Fearless Leader: LOL sylsnovelties: heeheehee jude: I have discovered that if you try to cut the darts when the clay has already covered the box, it makes a very nasty mess. jude: It also stretches the clay at the corner. sylsnovelties: Yeah, now you tell me! heeheehee jude: Yup. Fearless Leader: 2 minutes... James can't find something without a uterus jude: Okie. sylsnovelties: heeheehee Fearless Leader: back Fearless Leader: well it was at the back of the fridge Fearless Leader: LOL Fearless Leader: he couldn't find the dip jude: Of course. Fearless Leader: he was looking real hard too, poor dear, he's a mess in the kitchen Fearless Leader: ok, any questions before we cover this tin? sylsnovelties: None, but I know everything I did wrong. sylsnovelties: So, now another tin for me! jude: Nope, no questions right now. Fearless Leader: ok, I don't use TLS for the clay stuck on the tin just displaying it Fearless Leader: earlier Fearless Leader: it's sticky enough Fearless Leader: the seams will stick the sides together jude: I quit using it too. Fearless Leader: I use it for Paper Mache boxes Fearless Leader: for they are a little dry Fearless Leader: and fluffy Fearless Leader: the paper mache works like a release agent sometimes sylsnovelties: My clay stuck real easy to the tin too. Fearless Leader: and the TLS does chill that out Fearless Leader: Now to cover this tin Fearless Leader: work with it open as much as you can, holding on to the tin from the inside jude: Starting at the back, place the clay on the back edge of the list and press slightly to get it to stick. Fearless Leader: yes jude: then, work your way towards the front. jude: Make sure you don't trap any air under that clay. jude: Smooth across the top and over the sides, attaching the same way as the back was. jude: Looks good! jude: How smooth is it? jude: Now for the bottom. jude: Starting at the back, press the clay slightly against the back edge to stick. Fearless Leader: Line up the lines of the design Fearless Leader: you only cut out that little bit for the hinges sylsnovelties: good thinking. Fearless Leader: so the design should match jude: Right. jude: Smooth the clay across the bottom and up the front side. Fearless Leader: since we used the closed tin to measure Fearless Leader: it leaves that overlap area uncovered jude: Right. sylsnovelties: ahh jude: Press the sides over the bottom edge. jude: Now the corners. jude: That a shaper? Something to smooth the corners. Fearless Leader: there sylsnovelties: Or is she cutting a little excess clay. Fearless Leader: easy breezy Fearless Leader: I just lined up the edge jude: Hmmm.... Fearless Leader: around the bottom jude: Okie. Fearless Leader: I'll smooth the seams a bit sylsnovelties: That tin looks perfect. Fearless Leader: last minute fiddling but it's ready to cure sylsnovelties: I don't know if you had a chance to see mine yet NJ. Fearless Leader: Did you send it through the pix list? sylsnovelties: Those colors look great too! Fearless Leader: let me go see sylsnovelties: Yup, I did. Fearless Leader: I might have and then Old Timer's Disease got me jude: I love those colors and that pattern. Fearless Leader: Oh I thought you'd like these colors Fearless Leader: they are even more vibrant in person jude: An interesting herringbone. Fearless Leader: OH WOW Fearless Leader: I did see the tin but it was around Dawn Fearless Leader: and I did forget sylsnovelties: The colors are really nice Fearless Leader: I love it Fearless Leader: I'll bet sylsnovelties: That was the pleat and fold. Fearless Leader: did you sand and Future Finish it? sylsnovelties: Not yet. sylsnovelties: Just barely cured it. Fearless Leader: LOL I know what you mean sylsnovelties: I was anxious to send a pic. Fearless Leader: I have so much I have to cure Fearless Leader: it's scary Fearless Leader: especially with these Demos Fearless Leader: they produce a lot of stuff sylsnovelties: I cure right away because I am afraid of smooshing something. Fearless Leader: and I just put it in a drawer or a glad ware tub and move on sylsnovelties: I don't think you could ever sell everything you have! heeheehee Fearless Leader: One day soon I'll have to do a mongo curing Fearless Leader: I have to take a day or two off to do these ebay listings Fearless Leader: I know that now Fearless Leader: Just got to figure which days sylsnovelties: You will rake in the cash then. Fearless Leader: Oh from your lips to God's ears Fearless Leader: I hope so Fearless Leader: I hope folks buy things because I'm amusing sylsnovelties: heeheehee I'll be praying for it anyway. jude: same here! Fearless Leader: even if it is as good as any other clayers stuff Fearless Leader: so, I'm going to take a break, because I'm starving Fearless Leader: and there's nifty left overs Fearless Leader: So I guess that's it for tonight jude: Okie, looks great! Thanks! Fearless Leader: but I'm going to be doing more doll bodies tomorrow Fearless Leader: and taking special requests as they come up Fearless Leader: my pleasure, Syl, the password is still there for Epson and just email me the log sylsnovelties: I know there is something I want to see, but I can't remember what! sylsnovelties: Ok, sure thing. jude: Write it down when you think of it syl. Fearless Leader: think about it while I put some food in the microwave Fearless Leader: I'll be back in a tick then sylsnovelties: that is what I should do Jude! I forget. heeheehee Fearless Leader: there was this writer Fearless Leader: who kept a pad beside the bed Fearless Leader: and a pen Fearless Leader: and kept telling himself Fearless Leader: "I got to write it down" Fearless Leader: so one night he wakes Fearless Leader: writes something and goes back to sleep Fearless Leader: in the morning he wrote Fearless Leader: "I got to write it down Fearless Leader: LOL sylsnovelties: heeheehee jude: lol! sylsnovelties: That is probably something like I would do Fearless Leader: me too jude: Yup. Fearless Leader: Or I'll write something that makes no sense the next day sylsnovelties: I'd forget my head if it wasn't attached. jude: Or, I can't read my writing. Fearless Leader: Said's friends are starting a tradition of bringing me food Fearless Leader: it's the funniest thing Fearless Leader: I have a bit of Corned Beef with cabbage Fearless Leader: a bit of fried fish Fearless Leader: a bit of chines Fearless Leader: Chinese Fearless Leader: LOL jude: Oh, my! Fearless Leader: they go out to eat and then come by to pick him up Fearless Leader: and they leave their doggie bags with me Fearless Leader: I'm such a scav Fearless Leader: they know it Fearless Leader: but it's really nice of them to think of me like that Fearless Leader: my boys sylsnovelties: Hey, tell them to send some over. heeheehee sylsnovelties: Good guys! jude: Leftovers are good. Fearless Leader: No kidding, I was very happy to see the corned beef with cabbage, got out my mustard Fearless Leader: they are really sweet, oh there's the microwave sylsnovelties: I love corned beef and cabbage Fearless Leader: so Syl did you remember what you forgot? jude: Not one of my favorite meals. sylsnovelties: Nope sylsnovelties: One of these days I will. sylsnovelties: <sigh> jude: Well, folks, it's late and I need my bed. Fearless Leader: I'm done for the night too Fearless Leader: see you two tomorrow sylsnovelties: Ok, Nitey Nite to you both jude: Okie, thanks! Fearless Leader: see what you get for being die hards Fearless Leader: you get to see what you want to see sylsnovelties: heeheehee Fearless Leader: LOL Fearless Leader: xoxox jude: greatauntjudy left the room |