Clay Techniques- 01 - 9-22-2002 Faux Wood Grain
greatauntjudy (07:03:08 PM): Howdy!
msatclayart (07:03:10 PM): I was looking in preferences
bonsaikathy (07:03:14 PM): hi hi there
msatclayart (07:03:16 PM): and it says there's an archive function
msatclayart (07:03:28 PM): I clicked to enable archiving, dunno how it works though
msatclayart (07:03:37 PM): Howdy Aunt Jude and Kathy
greatauntjudy (07:03:39 PM): I have mine checked and it never saved a thing.
greatauntjudy (07:03:51 PM): Not the chats anyway.
msatclayart (07:04:19 PM): Then I was looking to see if I could get the log to show the time each time folks posted, at least for my side
greatauntjudy (07:04:25 PM): Copy and paste still seems to be the best way.
msatclayart (07:04:28 PM): it would help a lot when I'm sorting out the saved logs
greatauntjudy (07:04:34 PM): Yes, it will do that...
Fearless Leader (07:04:45 PM): I got a lot of the index updated though
jude (07:04:46 PM): View/Show timestamps
bonsaikathy (07:04:49 PM): Hi to both of you
Fearless Leader (07:04:52 PM): working on the animal review
Fearless Leader (07:05:01 PM): Coolness
Fearless Leader (07:05:05 PM): ooooh
jude (07:05:12 PM): Howdy Kathy!
Fearless Leader (07:05:33 PM): I got pictures of the animal review up, but there's no links on the big pictures
Fearless Leader (07:05:49 PM): yet...then I noticed the time and said, gotta do it later
bonsaikathy (07:06:09 PM): I'm going to go open up the logs from this afternoon and see if it saves the entire thing each time, brb
Fearless Leader (07:06:15 PM): http://www.norajean.com/FauxWoodGrp.htm
Fearless Leader (07:06:19 PM): ok
Fearless Leader (07:06:34 PM): There's the old wood tute, poor old thing
jude (07:06:55 PM):
jude (07:06:58 PM): Got it open.
chelyha joined the room
jude (07:07:03 PM): I made faux wood once by accident.
jude (07:07:19 PM): Mooshed brown and gold pearl together and pressed.
jude (07:08:04 PM): Howdy Cheryl.
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chelyha (07:08:22 PM): Hello all!
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jakmiami (07:09:30 PM): hi all
jude (07:09:59 PM): Howdy!
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rubensmodel (07:10:08 PM): greetings, everyone! I'm at work and doing about 6 things at once, but will be bopping in as I can
Fearless Leader (07:10:09 PM): back
Fearless Leader (07:10:13 PM): sorry I had people leaving
Fearless Leader (07:10:26 PM): Mitch I put your how to do screen shots on the webcam index page
Fearless Leader (07:11:00 PM): gave it a page as soon as I saw it come through the list, haven't read it yet, just put it up, but thanks honey, you're a PEACH
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bonsaikathy (07:11:24 PM): I regret to inform you that for some reason none of them saved, the file name is there but nothing is in them, I can't believe it
frogger70301 (07:11:24 PM): Thanks.
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frogger70301 (07:11:33 PM): I hope it was clear enough.
jude (07:11:47 PM): I use Paint Shop Pro and can write instructions for that, if you want.
jude (07:11:51 PM): No biggie if you don't.
Fearless Leader (07:11:53 PM): I have no idea as yet, I was just doing the last minute mad dash to get the page and link up
Fearless Leader (07:12:13 PM): Aunt Jude all contributions to the storehouse of knowledge is humbly appreciated
frogger70301 (07:12:23 PM): If anyone wants it, I think I have an extra disk for PhotoStudio.
Fearless Leader (07:12:29 PM): are humbly appreciated, if I wanted my verb to match the number
jude (07:12:30 PM): Okie...will make note to self cause of rotten memory.
bonsaikathy (07:12:52 PM): did anyone else happen to save the logs this afternoon, I hope
frogger70301 (07:13:01 PM): not me.
jude (07:13:04 PM): Didn't go today.
frogger70301 (07:13:19 PM): I got the shots ready, though.
bonsaikathy (07:13:21 PM): ldkjfmasdfn ras a fassin blinkety blink
bonsaikathy (07:13:42 PM): all the files are empty for some reason
jude (07:13:52 PM): Whatch your language! hehehehe
jude (07:13:57 PM): er...watch, too.
bonsaikathy (07:14:24 PM):
Fearless Leader (07:14:29 PM): back
Fearless Leader (07:14:44 PM): Hilda came early for me to empty her garbage
Fearless Leader (07:14:45 PM): LOL
Fearless Leader (07:14:51 PM): had to give her the bum's rush
Fearless Leader (07:14:56 PM): I'm huffing and puffing
Fearless Leader (07:15:04 PM): now let me see if I saved any of this morning's logs
Fearless Leader (07:15:37 PM): No worries
Fearless Leader (07:15:39 PM): I got it
bonsaikathy (07:15:52 PM): I have no idea why it didn't save, I've never had that happen before
jude (07:15:54 PM): I have the usual snackies...popcorn, chocolate Oreos, etc. Help youself.
bonsaikathy (07:16:04 PM): thanks NJ
bonsaikathy (07:16:09 PM): I'm really glad you got them
frogger70301 (07:16:11 PM): NJ, you want me to load the shots real quick?
jude (07:16:36 PM): Got to have popcorn to go with the movie.
Fearless Leader (07:16:38 PM): Well since I had people leaving out of the house and Hilda's garbage, I'm going to get a cup of coffee and settle my energies. Mitch, naw, it can wait until tomorrow
frogger70301 (07:16:47 PM): k.
Fearless Leader (07:16:56 PM): I'll be back in a tick, but if you want to look at something
Fearless Leader (07:17:05 PM): hold up and let me get a url for all y'all
Fearless Leader (07:19:06 PM): Biz-Archive/MSAT/ClayArt/WebCam/DemoPix-018b you'll see the digi cam pix for the animal review, some new stuff there
Fearless Leader (07:19:09 PM): ok?
Fearless Leader (07:19:10 PM): I'll be back
Fearless Leader (07:22:03 PM): while I'm heating the coffee, are we sorted out as to who will save logs and who will do screen shots? Can y'all decide that and I'll be back in a tick. Thanks
frogger70301 (07:23:12 PM): any volunteers?
jude (07:23:55 PM): I can do logs.
jude (07:24:09 PM): My mama said never volunteer...sigh...
bonsaikathy (07:24:14 PM): I didn't have success so better leave it to someone else until Gary tells me why
jude (07:24:33 PM): But, I can do that...hehehehe
chelyha (07:24:36 PM): I have to find how to do it
Fearless Leader (07:24:37 PM): ok, I'm back on track
Fearless Leader (07:24:48 PM): Roll Call my Darlings
jude (07:24:50 PM): I use copy and paste as it's just easier for me to do.
Fearless Leader (07:24:53 PM): NoraJean, San Francisco
frogger70301 (07:24:58 PM): Mitch, LA
jude (07:24:59 PM): jude, Tehachapi
chelyha (07:24:59 PM): but I don't think my computer can handle it
bonsaikathy (07:25:02 PM): kathy in E. TN
chelyha (07:25:08 PM): Cheryl in Tehachapi
jakmiami (07:25:10 PM): Judith K, Miami Beach
Fearless Leader (07:25:41 PM): and Edie who is doing 6 things at once
Fearless Leader (07:25:48 PM): I don't know where, LOL
frogger70301 (07:25:56 PM): anyone for the shots?
jakmiami (07:26:16 PM): I'm still sorting out what I took yesterday
bonsaikathy (07:26:30 PM): I don't have a capture card so can't help there either, sorry
Fearless Leader (07:26:34 PM): Ya, I'll get the wood tute url again and someone help with screen shots.
frogger70301 (07:26:45 PM): Oh, well. I guess I'll just have to get in trouble then.
frogger70301 (07:26:52 PM): again.
frogger70301 (07:27:04 PM):
Fearless Leader (07:27:07 PM): Wood
Fearless Leader (07:27:19 PM): Shall we begin?
chelyha (07:27:29 PM): yep
frogger70301 (07:27:31 PM): just a sec.
Fearless Leader (07:27:39 PM): just say when Mitch
frogger70301 (07:28:07 PM): k, don't have to number right.
frogger70301 (07:28:27 PM): ready.
Fearless Leader (07:28:38 PM): not if it makes you wonky
Fearless Leader (07:28:44 PM): this is a wonk free zone
Fearless Leader (07:28:59 PM): we ready?
chelyha (07:29:04 PM): ready
frogger70301 (07:29:10 PM): ready.
jude (07:29:17 PM): ready.
bonsaikathy (07:29:17 PM): yes
Fearless Leader (07:29:17 PM): Let's talk about tree rings
Fearless Leader (07:29:27 PM): the reason why you can tell how old a tree is
Fearless Leader (07:29:40 PM): by counting the rings in the trunk of the tree
Fearless Leader (07:29:51 PM): odd way to do it since you got to chop down the tree to see how old it is
Fearless Leader (07:29:53 PM): but I digress
Fearless Leader (07:30:00 PM): tree rings represent two layers
Fearless Leader (07:30:09 PM): summer growth
Fearless Leader (07:30:16 PM): the winter sleep
Fearless Leader (07:30:30 PM): if the summer is dry that inner light part of a ring is narrow
Fearless Leader (07:30:39 PM): not a lot of water to make it fat
Fearless Leader (07:30:44 PM): that's why tree rings are of different thicknesses
frogger70301 (07:30:50 PM): really?
frogger70301 (07:30:55 PM): I didn't know that.
Fearless Leader (07:30:59 PM): Yes M'am
Fearless Leader (07:31:02 PM): also
frogger70301 (07:31:04 PM): cool.
Fearless Leader (07:31:08 PM): that inner lighter part of the ring
Fearless Leader (07:31:18 PM): it weathers different than the hard outer bark
Fearless Leader (07:31:23 PM): so you get ripples
Fearless Leader (07:31:27 PM): in wood grain
Fearless Leader (07:31:35 PM): this is all but ignored with polymer clay
Fearless Leader (07:31:40 PM): and is so easy to simulate
Fearless Leader (07:32:01 PM): the light sheet is softer clay, like white or pearl with the wood color
Fearless Leader (07:32:07 PM): and the bark layer is firmer clay like Fimo
Fearless Leader (07:32:14 PM): when you reduce a slice of this wood grain
Fearless Leader (07:32:20 PM): the soft clay will sink inward
Fearless Leader (07:32:26 PM): and the hard clay will stand out
Fearless Leader (07:32:33 PM): and you have instant sculpting
Fearless Leader (07:32:42 PM): of weathered wood grain
Fearless Leader (07:32:53 PM): Does that make sense?
Fearless Leader (07:33:14 PM): would anyone want to see an example of this soft and hard layered instant sculpting effect?
jakmiami (07:33:24 PM): yes pls
Fearless Leader (07:33:27 PM): brb
jude (07:33:31 PM): yes.
bonsaikathy (07:33:46 PM): yes
chelyha (07:34:12 PM): yes
frogger70301 (07:34:24 PM): So that means I have to make another cane, right?
jude (07:34:31 PM): Right.
chelyha (07:34:54 PM): I get that effect with white and translucent
chelyha (07:35:03 PM): but we always sand it down
bonsaikathy (07:35:21 PM): if everything goes right, that's what I'll be working on most of tomorrow, canes
frogger70301 (07:35:21 PM): and I just wasted almost the whole block of the four colors I used.
bonsaikathy (07:35:32 PM): ouch
jude (07:35:42 PM): Yikes.
Fearless Leader (07:35:53 PM): http://www.geocities.com/claystress/jen13.html
frogger70301 (07:35:58 PM): the last four packs I had that were unopened.
Fearless Leader (07:36:23 PM): the white and grey clouds are hard and soft clay, this picture and a couple going forward
bonsaikathy (07:36:24 PM): ohh no, looks like you need to make a trip to Michaels
frogger70301 (07:36:45 PM): Not for at least the next two weeks.
frogger70301 (07:36:55 PM): Paycheck is completely gone until then.
Fearless Leader (07:37:02 PM): http://www.geocities.com/claystress/jen13.html
bonsaikathy (07:37:14 PM): I know how that is
Fearless Leader (07:37:19 PM): can we check this because it's relevant to this demo
jude (07:38:06 PM): Got it.
jakmiami (07:38:09 PM): you're talking about the outer shells?
bonsaikathy (07:38:11 PM): I did
frogger70301 (07:38:13 PM): That's where I got my swap idea from.
Fearless Leader (07:38:14 PM): we can do this wood grain technique with different colors
Fearless Leader (07:38:27 PM): really Mitch, that's nice to know.
frogger70301 (07:38:34 PM): yup.
Fearless Leader (07:38:36 PM): if we use hard and soft clay together in layers while we build our wood grain
Fearless Leader (07:38:57 PM): we can pull the cane slices, the dark clay on this cloud ridge was the softer clay
Fearless Leader (07:39:01 PM): the white was firmer
Fearless Leader (07:39:24 PM): it was accidental that I fould that the darker clay would sink in and then I thought, what if we did this deliberately?
Fearless Leader (07:39:49 PM): we could use the usually problematic issue of different types of clay's consistency
Fearless Leader (07:39:59 PM): and put it to our advantage
Fearless Leader (07:40:14 PM): with that said... Wood grain is just sheets
Fearless Leader (07:40:17 PM): two colors at least
Fearless Leader (07:40:22 PM): more if you want to get fancy
Fearless Leader (07:40:25 PM): and bullseyes
Fearless Leader (07:40:35 PM): with multiple rings around it instead of only one layer
Fearless Leader (07:40:50 PM): the way you get good knots in the wood is to add those outer rings one at a time
frogger70301 (07:40:59 PM): ok, so it sounds like I started right.
Fearless Leader (07:41:00 PM): making sure you get that Butt End, flush seam effect
Fearless Leader (07:41:18 PM): if you put a hundred surround sheets around a center snake of a bullseye
Fearless Leader (07:41:26 PM): you have a cross section of a tree, yes?
jude (07:41:33 PM): Yes.
Fearless Leader (07:41:46 PM): if we took that bulls eye with many rings
Fearless Leader (07:41:55 PM): and twisted it, pressed some of it inward
Fearless Leader (07:42:00 PM): and then cut it down the length
Fearless Leader (07:42:05 PM): would we not get wood grain
Fearless Leader (07:42:12 PM): for that is how wood grain is made in nature, yes?
Fearless Leader (07:42:41 PM): So there are two ways to do wood grain
Fearless Leader (07:42:58 PM): we can do the long bullseye with multiple rings, give it a twist and a shout and knock ourselves out
Fearless Leader (07:43:05 PM): and slice down the cane to get wood grain
Fearless Leader (07:43:07 PM): or
Fearless Leader (07:43:24 PM): we can build planks of wood with layered sheets, sandwich a modest bullseye for a knot in the wood
Fearless Leader (07:43:29 PM): these planks are a better bet
frogger70301 (07:43:37 PM): that's what I did.
Fearless Leader (07:43:44 PM): for rectangles can be slapped on anything
Fearless Leader (07:43:57 PM): just wait until we do wood grain with the basket weave and you all think... flooring
Fearless Leader (07:43:59 PM): yes....
Fearless Leader (07:44:10 PM): so let's do the layered sheets with a modest bullseye first
Fearless Leader (07:44:14 PM): that's the conservative bet
bonsaikathy (07:44:17 PM): ok
jude (07:44:20 PM): Okie.
Fearless Leader (07:44:23 PM): then let's experiment with a tree type of structure
Fearless Leader (07:44:29 PM): and see what we get from that
frogger70301 (07:44:54 PM): sounds good to me.
Fearless Leader (07:45:08 PM): So I'll start by taking a couple of sheets and pressing them together
Fearless Leader (07:45:18 PM): I'm going to press a black and silver mix, that is hematite
Fearless Leader (07:45:27 PM): with a dark bark sort of color
bonsaikathy (07:45:34 PM): how thick
Fearless Leader (07:46:00 PM): and then press the light sheet with a little lighter color all the sheets are shown here. I always start out with the thickest setting, put two sheets together and press at the thickest setting again
Fearless Leader (07:46:03 PM): mashes them together
Fearless Leader (07:46:22 PM): best to reduce the sheets like this before construction of the layered sheet technique
bonsaikathy (07:46:33 PM): thanks
Fearless Leader (07:46:33 PM): it's not good for the second technique
Fearless Leader (07:47:05 PM): So off I go unless there are any questions
jude (07:47:15 PM): Nope.
frogger70301 (07:47:19 PM): not here.
chelyha (07:47:22 PM): none
bonsaikathy (07:47:27 PM): nope
Fearless Leader (07:49:21 PM): If I stop to describe what's going on the whole process slows down.
bonsaikathy (07:50:10 PM): she took 2 sheets of clay and placed them together and put them through the pasta machine at the thickest setting
frogger70301 (07:51:09 PM): now she has stacked all four sheets.
jakmiami (07:51:14 PM): looks like three sheets - dark, light and blackish
bonsaikathy (07:51:37 PM): she's rolling a snake
frogger70301 (07:52:14 PM): starting the bulls eye for the knot?
bonsaikathy (07:52:45 PM): doing a butt joint
frogger70301 (07:54:07 PM): another layer of stacked sheets.
jakmiami (07:55:00 PM): like a double bullseye
frogger70301 (07:55:42 PM): stack of stacked sheets
frogger70301 (07:56:06 PM): shaping to insert the knot.
bonsaikathy (07:56:53 PM): sandwiched the knot bullseye into the middle of the stacked sheets
bonsaikathy (07:57:28 PM): crosswise
jude (07:58:02 PM): Near!
jude (07:58:06 PM): er...Neat!
frogger70301 (07:59:00 PM): almost looks like salmon.
bonsaikathy (07:59:02 PM): oh I really like that, especially the one on the left
jude (07:59:11 PM): Yes, me too.
bonsaikathy (07:59:25 PM): the knot in there is great
jude (07:59:49 PM): Sure is.
frogger70301 (08:02:18 PM): Is this the second technique she was talkong about?
bonsaikathy (08:03:07 PM): she added lot's of rings around the snake
bonsaikathy (08:03:20 PM): then squeezed it in the fist of doom
jude (08:03:22 PM): Looks like she wrapped clay around a bullseye and cut it and wrapped another, etc.
jude (08:03:29 PM): Now she is reducing...fist of doom.
jude (08:04:09 PM): Sliced lengthwise.
bonsaikathy (08:04:15 PM): oh cool,
bonsaikathy (08:04:24 PM): that's really a neat technique
bonsaikathy (08:04:35 PM): slicing off the sides
jude (08:04:53 PM): Actually, she followed the natural course that tree rings are laid down. One around another around another.
bonsaikathy (08:05:18 PM): left a bulge in the middle so that when she sliced she'd get differant areas of the rings
bonsaikathy (08:07:21 PM): she's laid down another sheet and is covering it with the thin slices she just took of the bullseye
bonsaikathy (08:07:48 PM): it really looks like ceder or something like that
bonsaikathy (08:07:55 PM): heavily grained
bonsaikathy (08:08:07 PM): very pretty
bonsaikathy (08:08:18 PM): lot's of light and dark shades
jude (08:08:23 PM): Yes, I really like that.
jude (08:09:46 PM): Imagine the color combinations you can use.
bonsaikathy (08:10:12 PM): I'll give this a try tomorrow if I get time
bonsaikathy (08:10:55 PM): she just took some canes and basket weaved them
jude (08:11:13 PM): Sneaky!
bonsaikathy (08:12:10 PM): almost looks like parquet flooring, what do you think
jude (08:12:18 PM): Yes, it does.
bonsaikathy (08:13:21 PM): wow!!!
jude (08:13:28 PM): Yowser!
bonsaikathy (08:14:11 PM): Looks like she took that basket weave and slices small slices, placed on a sheet and then put through the pasta machine
jude (08:14:13 PM): That know looks almost like an eye.
jude (08:14:21 PM): know=knot.
bonsaikathy (08:14:29 PM): cats eyes
jude (08:14:42 PM): My overactive imagination is at it again.
bonsaikathy (08:15:00 PM): that one was my favorite
rubensmodel (08:15:05 PM): silly question here-- do you guys get sound with the webcam? And if not, what's the problem with Mac users and the YM webcam? (I'm watching on a Mac....) and 2 -- is the color representation on your screens pretty close to what NJ is using? Here I'm seeing a weird orange and salmon and black
bonsaikathy (08:15:18 PM): really looks like cedar to me
bonsaikathy (08:15:22 PM): no sound here
jude (08:15:26 PM): No sound.
jakmiami (08:15:33 PM): I'm on a PC and I'm seeing the same colors you are
Fearless Leader (08:15:38 PM): I mentioned earlier that I'm using a pumkin color
jude (08:15:40 PM): I don't know about Macs, have a pc.
Fearless Leader (08:15:45 PM): and hematite
rubensmodel (08:15:48 PM): ok, thanks. I'm still new and trying to figure out what I'm seeing
Fearless Leader (08:15:51 PM): because they were available already
Fearless Leader (08:15:54 PM): no worries
Fearless Leader (08:15:58 PM): the work mat is green
chelyha (08:16:00 PM): it looks like red, black and pink to me
Fearless Leader (08:16:05 PM): go from there as a guide
Fearless Leader (08:16:12 PM): for color, I mean
jude (08:16:15 PM): The colors seem pretty true to me.
Fearless Leader (08:16:25 PM): but the technique is what's important
Fearless Leader (08:16:30 PM): I didn't use realistic colors
Fearless Leader (08:16:38 PM): because y'all have to pick your wood grain
Fearless Leader (08:16:41 PM): light, dark
bonsaikathy (08:16:43 PM): the one looks like cedar NJ
Fearless Leader (08:16:43 PM): redwood
Fearless Leader (08:16:46 PM): cherry
Fearless Leader (08:16:50 PM): I think so too
bonsaikathy (08:16:50 PM): very pretty
rubensmodel (08:16:56 PM): it's really beautiful.
Fearless Leader (08:16:58 PM): I have some cedar blocks I should take them out
Fearless Leader (08:17:04 PM): we have wood all around us
Fearless Leader (08:17:06 PM): for instance
bonsaikathy (08:18:04 PM): I have a box full of differant exotic woods that are sliced really super thin that I got from a guy several months ago, will have to dig it out
jude (08:18:05 PM): Right, I was just looking at my desk...faux oak, phony wood, but looks pretty real.
bonsaikathy (08:18:22 PM): same here
rubensmodel (08:18:51 PM): reminds me of cell division --lol!
jude (08:19:02 PM): LOL
Fearless Leader (08:19:13 PM): Ok
bonsaikathy (08:19:15 PM):
Fearless Leader (08:19:21 PM): that's it
Fearless Leader (08:19:25 PM): the rest is up to you
Fearless Leader (08:19:30 PM): picking what wood you want
Fearless Leader (08:19:37 PM): which technique do you think you'll use
Fearless Leader (08:19:42 PM): the first one of layered sheets
Fearless Leader (08:19:45 PM): with a knot
bonsaikathy (08:19:48 PM): I like the second one
jude (08:20:00 PM): Me too.
Fearless Leader (08:20:00 PM): or the tree method, twisting up the tree to get some vairations in the grain
frogger70301 (08:20:05 PM): I did the first one.
Fearless Leader (08:20:29 PM): I've been saying for 4 years that wood grain should be made the way wood grows in nature
Fearless Leader (08:20:38 PM): just as our malachite is made like malachite is made in nature
Fearless Leader (08:20:46 PM): then we can cut through the cane
Fearless Leader (08:20:52 PM): in any direction
Fearless Leader (08:20:56 PM): and it'll be true
jude (08:21:03 PM): Right.
Fearless Leader (08:21:08 PM): surface techniques, humming a few bars and faking it
Fearless Leader (08:21:12 PM): not going to happen here
Fearless Leader (08:21:30 PM): if we look to nature for help in our designs, then we can do things with our wood grain logs
bonsaikathy (08:21:31 PM): what colors were those again
bonsaikathy (08:21:45 PM): you said pumpkin, black and what color
Fearless Leader (08:21:52 PM): What were they
jude (08:21:54 PM): Silver
jude (08:21:57 PM): ?
Fearless Leader (08:21:59 PM): cooked pumkin pie
Fearless Leader (08:22:11 PM): uncooked pumkin pie
Fearless Leader (08:22:16 PM): and pumkin with cool whip
Fearless Leader (08:22:17 PM): and hematite
Fearless Leader (08:22:19 PM): I dunno
Fearless Leader (08:22:20 PM): LOL
Fearless Leader (08:22:33 PM): fart around mixing colors
Fearless Leader (08:22:40 PM): find real wood chips, see if you can get samples
Fearless Leader (08:22:42 PM): from Home Depo
Fearless Leader (08:22:52 PM): samples they are throwing away for flooring
Fearless Leader (08:22:57 PM): those little chips in a chain
Fearless Leader (08:23:09 PM): they are great for ideas for color for wood
Fearless Leader (08:23:32 PM): also different trees have different sort of grain
bonsaikathy (08:23:32 PM): I'll have to get out that box of exotic woods tomorrow and have a look, there are some fantastic wood colors in there
Fearless Leader (08:23:45 PM): some are distinct and others not, some are burly and swirly and some are not
jakmiami left the room
Fearless Leader (08:23:59 PM): bamboo is very light, straight lines
Fearless Leader (08:24:07 PM): like in the bamboo minis on the wood tute page
Fearless Leader (08:24:25 PM): So I'll take questions at this point
frogger70301 (08:24:38 PM): Is the wood grain swap still on?
frogger70301 (08:24:44 PM): Or did it fade out?
Fearless Leader (08:25:23 PM): I never set a date for it, it needs more interest
Fearless Leader (08:25:38 PM): bamboo and wood is the swap
Fearless Leader (08:26:06 PM): Bamboo
Fearless Leader (08:26:15 PM): Wood
Fearless Leader (08:27:12 PM): So this is the end of the Wood Grain Demo unless we have any other questions. I have two days of logs and pix to put up on the webcam index
Fearless Leader (08:27:21 PM): so I can't do demo too long tonight
frogger70301 (08:27:23 PM): Well, I'm gonna go save pics as quick as I can.
Fearless Leader (08:27:30 PM): no hurry, I'm behind two days
bonsaikathy (08:27:34 PM): no questions here
Fearless Leader (08:27:41 PM): so I have to put some time in getting these pix and logs up on the site
jude (08:27:41 PM): Okie, thanks! Great demo!
frogger70301 (08:27:44 PM): I need to get to bed though.
jude (08:27:52 PM): Will send the log right away to youz.
frogger70301 (08:27:53 PM): I agree. Great!
Fearless Leader (08:27:55 PM): We can't stay up too late on Sunday Night
bonsaikathy (08:27:56 PM): you do such a good job of explaining that I usually am not left with questions
Fearless Leader (08:28:03 PM): Thank you Jude and Mitch for the back up frogger70301 (08:28:16 PM): no prob.
frogger70301 (08:28:18 PM): anytime.
Fearless Leader (08:28:21 PM): Kathy this demo is especially for you
Fearless Leader (08:28:23 PM): and your trees
Fearless Leader (08:28:27 PM): just reduce
Fearless Leader (08:28:28 PM): a lot
Fearless Leader (08:28:31 PM): high contrast
Fearless Leader (08:28:34 PM): so the grain shows
Fearless Leader (08:28:36 PM): ya know?
bonsaikathy (08:28:42 PM): Oh I've already got my wheels rolling haha
Fearless Leader (08:28:46 PM): huts, fences,
Fearless Leader (08:28:49 PM): a cord of wood
Fearless Leader (08:28:55 PM): oh hey
Fearless Leader (08:29:00 PM): another quick wood source
Fearless Leader (08:29:04 PM): leopard spot cane
Fearless Leader (08:29:10 PM): sliced down the middle after twisting it a bit
Fearless Leader (08:29:19 PM): quick logs for a fire that leopard spot cane
Fearless Leader (08:29:21 PM): LOL
Fearless Leader (08:29:28 PM): I used them for Hunka Burnin Love
Fearless Leader (08:29:32 PM): in the spookie series
bonsaikathy (08:30:34 PM): I have got to hit the sack, but this was great NJ, enjoyed it thoroughly as I always do
Fearless Leader (08:30:42 PM): I gotta bounce too
Fearless Leader (08:30:48 PM): the web site beckons
bonsaikathy (08:30:49 PM): thanks ladies for your help also
frogger70301 (08:30:50 PM): me too. Bye.
Fearless Leader (08:30:50 PM): like Moby Dick
bonsaikathy (08:30:52 PM): it's appreciated
jude (08:31:01 PM): Night, all!
bonsaikathy (08:31:02 PM): bye
Fearless Leader (08:31:03 PM): Thanks for showing up
frogger70301 left the room
Fearless Leader (08:31:11 PM): I love this technique