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Clay Techniques- 01 - 9-22-2002 Faux Wood Grain |
greatauntjudy (07:03:08 PM): Howdy! msatclayart (07:03:10 PM): I was looking in preferences bonsaikathy (07:03:14 PM): hi hi there msatclayart (07:03:16 PM): and it says there's an archive function msatclayart (07:03:28 PM): I clicked to enable archiving, dunno how it works though msatclayart (07:03:37 PM): Howdy Aunt Jude and Kathy greatauntjudy (07:03:39 PM): I have mine checked and it never saved a thing. greatauntjudy (07:03:51 PM): Not the chats anyway. msatclayart (07:04:19 PM): Then I was looking to see if I could get the log to show the time each time folks posted, at least for my side greatauntjudy (07:04:25 PM): Copy and paste still seems to be the best way. msatclayart (07:04:28 PM): it would help a lot when I'm sorting out the saved logs greatauntjudy (07:04:34 PM): Yes, it will do that... Fearless Leader (07:04:45 PM): I got a lot of the index updated though jude (07:04:46 PM): View/Show timestamps bonsaikathy (07:04:49 PM): Hi to both of you Fearless Leader (07:04:52 PM): working on the animal review Fearless Leader (07:05:01 PM): Coolness Fearless Leader (07:05:05 PM): ooooh jude (07:05:12 PM): Howdy Kathy! Fearless Leader (07:05:33 PM): I got pictures of the animal review up, but there's no links on the big pictures Fearless Leader (07:05:49 PM): yet...then I noticed the time and said, gotta do it later bonsaikathy (07:06:09 PM): I'm going to go open up the logs from this afternoon and see if it saves the entire thing each time, brb Fearless Leader (07:06:15 PM): http://www.norajean.com/FauxWoodGrp.htm Fearless Leader (07:06:19 PM): ok Fearless Leader (07:06:34 PM): There's the old wood tute, poor old thing jude (07:06:55 PM): jude (07:06:58 PM): Got it open. chelyha joined the room jude (07:07:03 PM): I made faux wood once by accident. jude (07:07:19 PM): Mooshed brown and gold pearl together and pressed. jude (07:08:04 PM): Howdy Cheryl. rubensmodel joined the room chelyha (07:08:22 PM): Hello all! jakmiami joined the room jakmiami (07:09:30 PM): hi all jude (07:09:59 PM): Howdy! frogger70301 joined the room rubensmodel (07:10:08 PM): greetings, everyone! I'm at work and doing about 6 things at once, but will be bopping in as I can Fearless Leader (07:10:09 PM): back Fearless Leader (07:10:13 PM): sorry I had people leaving Fearless Leader (07:10:26 PM): Mitch I put your how to do screen shots on the webcam index page Fearless Leader (07:11:00 PM): gave it a page as soon as I saw it come through the list, haven't read it yet, just put it up, but thanks honey, you're a PEACH *** Fearless Leader will be ignored. bonsaikathy (07:11:24 PM): I regret to inform you that for some reason none of them saved, the file name is there but nothing is in them, I can't believe it frogger70301 (07:11:24 PM): Thanks. *** Fearless Leader will no longer be ignored. frogger70301 (07:11:33 PM): I hope it was clear enough. jude (07:11:47 PM): I use Paint Shop Pro and can write instructions for that, if you want. jude (07:11:51 PM): No biggie if you don't. Fearless Leader (07:11:53 PM): I have no idea as yet, I was just doing the last minute mad dash to get the page and link up Fearless Leader (07:12:13 PM): Aunt Jude all contributions to the storehouse of knowledge is humbly appreciated frogger70301 (07:12:23 PM): If anyone wants it, I think I have an extra disk for PhotoStudio. Fearless Leader (07:12:29 PM): are humbly appreciated, if I wanted my verb to match the number jude (07:12:30 PM): Okie...will make note to self cause of rotten memory. bonsaikathy (07:12:52 PM): did anyone else happen to save the logs this afternoon, I hope frogger70301 (07:13:01 PM): not me. jude (07:13:04 PM): Didn't go today. frogger70301 (07:13:19 PM): I got the shots ready, though. bonsaikathy (07:13:21 PM): ldkjfmasdfn ras a fassin blinkety blink bonsaikathy (07:13:42 PM): all the files are empty for some reason jude (07:13:52 PM): Whatch your language! hehehehe jude (07:13:57 PM): er...watch, too. bonsaikathy (07:14:24 PM): Fearless Leader (07:14:29 PM): back Fearless Leader (07:14:44 PM): Hilda came early for me to empty her garbage Fearless Leader (07:14:45 PM): LOL Fearless Leader (07:14:51 PM): had to give her the bum's rush Fearless Leader (07:14:56 PM): I'm huffing and puffing Fearless Leader (07:15:04 PM): now let me see if I saved any of this morning's logs Fearless Leader (07:15:37 PM): No worries Fearless Leader (07:15:39 PM): I got it bonsaikathy (07:15:52 PM): I have no idea why it didn't save, I've never had that happen before jude (07:15:54 PM): I have the usual snackies...popcorn, chocolate Oreos, etc. Help youself. bonsaikathy (07:16:04 PM): thanks NJ bonsaikathy (07:16:09 PM): I'm really glad you got them frogger70301 (07:16:11 PM): NJ, you want me to load the shots real quick? jude (07:16:36 PM): Got to have popcorn to go with the movie. Fearless Leader (07:16:38 PM): Well since I had people leaving out of the house and Hilda's garbage, I'm going to get a cup of coffee and settle my energies. Mitch, naw, it can wait until tomorrow frogger70301 (07:16:47 PM): k. Fearless Leader (07:16:56 PM): I'll be back in a tick, but if you want to look at something Fearless Leader (07:17:05 PM): hold up and let me get a url for all y'all Fearless Leader (07:19:06 PM): Biz-Archive/MSAT/ClayArt/WebCam/DemoPix-018b you'll see the digi cam pix for the animal review, some new stuff there Fearless Leader (07:19:09 PM): ok? Fearless Leader (07:19:10 PM): I'll be back Fearless Leader (07:22:03 PM): while I'm heating the coffee, are we sorted out as to who will save logs and who will do screen shots? Can y'all decide that and I'll be back in a tick. Thanks frogger70301 (07:23:12 PM): any volunteers? jude (07:23:55 PM): I can do logs. jude (07:24:09 PM): My mama said never volunteer...sigh... bonsaikathy (07:24:14 PM): I didn't have success so better leave it to someone else until Gary tells me why jude (07:24:33 PM): But, I can do that...hehehehe chelyha (07:24:36 PM): I have to find how to do it Fearless Leader (07:24:37 PM): ok, I'm back on track Fearless Leader (07:24:48 PM): Roll Call my Darlings jude (07:24:50 PM): I use copy and paste as it's just easier for me to do. Fearless Leader (07:24:53 PM): NoraJean, San Francisco frogger70301 (07:24:58 PM): Mitch, LA jude (07:24:59 PM): jude, Tehachapi chelyha (07:24:59 PM): but I don't think my computer can handle it bonsaikathy (07:25:02 PM): kathy in E. TN chelyha (07:25:08 PM): Cheryl in Tehachapi jakmiami (07:25:10 PM): Judith K, Miami Beach Fearless Leader (07:25:41 PM): and Edie who is doing 6 things at once Fearless Leader (07:25:48 PM): I don't know where, LOL frogger70301 (07:25:56 PM): anyone for the shots? jakmiami (07:26:16 PM): I'm still sorting out what I took yesterday bonsaikathy (07:26:30 PM): I don't have a capture card so can't help there either, sorry Fearless Leader (07:26:34 PM): Ya, I'll get the wood tute url again and someone help with screen shots. frogger70301 (07:26:45 PM): Oh, well. I guess I'll just have to get in trouble then. frogger70301 (07:26:52 PM): again. frogger70301 (07:27:04 PM): Fearless Leader (07:27:07 PM): Wood Fearless Leader (07:27:19 PM): Shall we begin? chelyha (07:27:29 PM): yep frogger70301 (07:27:31 PM): just a sec. Fearless Leader (07:27:39 PM): just say when Mitch frogger70301 (07:28:07 PM): k, don't have to number right. frogger70301 (07:28:27 PM): ready. Fearless Leader (07:28:38 PM): not if it makes you wonky Fearless Leader (07:28:44 PM): this is a wonk free zone Fearless Leader (07:28:59 PM): we ready? chelyha (07:29:04 PM): ready frogger70301 (07:29:10 PM): ready. jude (07:29:17 PM): ready. bonsaikathy (07:29:17 PM): yes Fearless Leader (07:29:17 PM): Let's talk about tree rings Fearless Leader (07:29:27 PM): the reason why you can tell how old a tree is Fearless Leader (07:29:40 PM): by counting the rings in the trunk of the tree Fearless Leader (07:29:51 PM): odd way to do it since you got to chop down the tree to see how old it is Fearless Leader (07:29:53 PM): but I digress Fearless Leader (07:30:00 PM): tree rings represent two layers Fearless Leader (07:30:09 PM): summer growth Fearless Leader (07:30:16 PM): the winter sleep Fearless Leader (07:30:30 PM): if the summer is dry that inner light part of a ring is narrow Fearless Leader (07:30:39 PM): not a lot of water to make it fat Fearless Leader (07:30:44 PM): that's why tree rings are of different thicknesses frogger70301 (07:30:50 PM): really? frogger70301 (07:30:55 PM): I didn't know that. Fearless Leader (07:30:59 PM): Yes M'am Fearless Leader (07:31:02 PM): also frogger70301 (07:31:04 PM): cool. Fearless Leader (07:31:08 PM): that inner lighter part of the ring Fearless Leader (07:31:18 PM): it weathers different than the hard outer bark Fearless Leader (07:31:23 PM): so you get ripples Fearless Leader (07:31:27 PM): in wood grain Fearless Leader (07:31:35 PM): this is all but ignored with polymer clay Fearless Leader (07:31:40 PM): and is so easy to simulate Fearless Leader (07:32:01 PM): the light sheet is softer clay, like white or pearl with the wood color Fearless Leader (07:32:07 PM): and the bark layer is firmer clay like Fimo Fearless Leader (07:32:14 PM): when you reduce a slice of this wood grain Fearless Leader (07:32:20 PM): the soft clay will sink inward Fearless Leader (07:32:26 PM): and the hard clay will stand out Fearless Leader (07:32:33 PM): and you have instant sculpting Fearless Leader (07:32:42 PM): of weathered wood grain Fearless Leader (07:32:53 PM): Does that make sense? Fearless Leader (07:33:14 PM): would anyone want to see an example of this soft and hard layered instant sculpting effect? jakmiami (07:33:24 PM): yes pls Fearless Leader (07:33:27 PM): brb jude (07:33:31 PM): yes. bonsaikathy (07:33:46 PM): yes chelyha (07:34:12 PM): yes frogger70301 (07:34:24 PM): So that means I have to make another cane, right? jude (07:34:31 PM): Right. chelyha (07:34:54 PM): I get that effect with white and translucent chelyha (07:35:03 PM): but we always sand it down bonsaikathy (07:35:21 PM): if everything goes right, that's what I'll be working on most of tomorrow, canes frogger70301 (07:35:21 PM): and I just wasted almost the whole block of the four colors I used. bonsaikathy (07:35:32 PM): ouch jude (07:35:42 PM): Yikes. Fearless Leader (07:35:53 PM): http://www.geocities.com/claystress/jen13.html frogger70301 (07:35:58 PM): the last four packs I had that were unopened. Fearless Leader (07:36:23 PM): the white and grey clouds are hard and soft clay, this picture and a couple going forward bonsaikathy (07:36:24 PM): ohh no, looks like you need to make a trip to Michaels frogger70301 (07:36:45 PM): Not for at least the next two weeks. frogger70301 (07:36:55 PM): Paycheck is completely gone until then. Fearless Leader (07:37:02 PM): http://www.geocities.com/claystress/jen13.html bonsaikathy (07:37:14 PM): I know how that is Fearless Leader (07:37:19 PM): can we check this because it's relevant to this demo jude (07:38:06 PM): Got it. jakmiami (07:38:09 PM): you're talking about the outer shells? bonsaikathy (07:38:11 PM): I did frogger70301 (07:38:13 PM): That's where I got my swap idea from. Fearless Leader (07:38:14 PM): we can do this wood grain technique with different colors Fearless Leader (07:38:27 PM): really Mitch, that's nice to know. frogger70301 (07:38:34 PM): yup. Fearless Leader (07:38:36 PM): if we use hard and soft clay together in layers while we build our wood grain Fearless Leader (07:38:57 PM): we can pull the cane slices, the dark clay on this cloud ridge was the softer clay Fearless Leader (07:39:01 PM): the white was firmer Fearless Leader (07:39:24 PM): it was accidental that I fould that the darker clay would sink in and then I thought, what if we did this deliberately? Fearless Leader (07:39:49 PM): we could use the usually problematic issue of different types of clay's consistency Fearless Leader (07:39:59 PM): and put it to our advantage Fearless Leader (07:40:14 PM): with that said... Wood grain is just sheets Fearless Leader (07:40:17 PM): two colors at least Fearless Leader (07:40:22 PM): more if you want to get fancy Fearless Leader (07:40:25 PM): and bullseyes Fearless Leader (07:40:35 PM): with multiple rings around it instead of only one layer Fearless Leader (07:40:50 PM): the way you get good knots in the wood is to add those outer rings one at a time frogger70301 (07:40:59 PM): ok, so it sounds like I started right. Fearless Leader (07:41:00 PM): making sure you get that Butt End, flush seam effect Fearless Leader (07:41:18 PM): if you put a hundred surround sheets around a center snake of a bullseye Fearless Leader (07:41:26 PM): you have a cross section of a tree, yes? jude (07:41:33 PM): Yes. Fearless Leader (07:41:46 PM): if we took that bulls eye with many rings Fearless Leader (07:41:55 PM): and twisted it, pressed some of it inward Fearless Leader (07:42:00 PM): and then cut it down the length Fearless Leader (07:42:05 PM): would we not get wood grain Fearless Leader (07:42:12 PM): for that is how wood grain is made in nature, yes? Fearless Leader (07:42:41 PM): So there are two ways to do wood grain Fearless Leader (07:42:58 PM): we can do the long bullseye with multiple rings, give it a twist and a shout and knock ourselves out Fearless Leader (07:43:05 PM): and slice down the cane to get wood grain Fearless Leader (07:43:07 PM): or Fearless Leader (07:43:24 PM): we can build planks of wood with layered sheets, sandwich a modest bullseye for a knot in the wood Fearless Leader (07:43:29 PM): these planks are a better bet frogger70301 (07:43:37 PM): that's what I did. Fearless Leader (07:43:44 PM): for rectangles can be slapped on anything Fearless Leader (07:43:57 PM): just wait until we do wood grain with the basket weave and you all think... flooring Fearless Leader (07:43:59 PM): yes.... Fearless Leader (07:44:10 PM): so let's do the layered sheets with a modest bullseye first Fearless Leader (07:44:14 PM): that's the conservative bet bonsaikathy (07:44:17 PM): ok jude (07:44:20 PM): Okie. Fearless Leader (07:44:23 PM): then let's experiment with a tree type of structure Fearless Leader (07:44:29 PM): and see what we get from that frogger70301 (07:44:54 PM): sounds good to me. Fearless Leader (07:45:08 PM): So I'll start by taking a couple of sheets and pressing them together Fearless Leader (07:45:18 PM): I'm going to press a black and silver mix, that is hematite Fearless Leader (07:45:27 PM): with a dark bark sort of color bonsaikathy (07:45:34 PM): how thick Fearless Leader (07:46:00 PM): and then press the light sheet with a little lighter color all the sheets are shown here. I always start out with the thickest setting, put two sheets together and press at the thickest setting again Fearless Leader (07:46:03 PM): mashes them together Fearless Leader (07:46:22 PM): best to reduce the sheets like this before construction of the layered sheet technique bonsaikathy (07:46:33 PM): thanks Fearless Leader (07:46:33 PM): it's not good for the second technique Fearless Leader (07:47:05 PM): So off I go unless there are any questions jude (07:47:15 PM): Nope. frogger70301 (07:47:19 PM): not here. chelyha (07:47:22 PM): none bonsaikathy (07:47:27 PM): nope Fearless Leader (07:49:21 PM): If I stop to describe what's going on the whole process slows down. bonsaikathy (07:50:10 PM): she took 2 sheets of clay and placed them together and put them through the pasta machine at the thickest setting frogger70301 (07:51:09 PM): now she has stacked all four sheets. jakmiami (07:51:14 PM): looks like three sheets - dark, light and blackish bonsaikathy (07:51:37 PM): she's rolling a snake frogger70301 (07:52:14 PM): starting the bulls eye for the knot? bonsaikathy (07:52:45 PM): doing a butt joint frogger70301 (07:54:07 PM): another layer of stacked sheets. jakmiami (07:55:00 PM): like a double bullseye frogger70301 (07:55:42 PM): stack of stacked sheets frogger70301 (07:56:06 PM): shaping to insert the knot. bonsaikathy (07:56:53 PM): sandwiched the knot bullseye into the middle of the stacked sheets bonsaikathy (07:57:28 PM): crosswise jude (07:58:02 PM): Near! jude (07:58:06 PM): er...Neat! frogger70301 (07:59:00 PM): almost looks like salmon. bonsaikathy (07:59:02 PM): oh I really like that, especially the one on the left jude (07:59:11 PM): Yes, me too. bonsaikathy (07:59:25 PM): the knot in there is great jude (07:59:49 PM): Sure is. frogger70301 (08:02:18 PM): Is this the second technique she was talkong about? bonsaikathy (08:03:07 PM): she added lot's of rings around the snake bonsaikathy (08:03:20 PM): then squeezed it in the fist of doom jude (08:03:22 PM): Looks like she wrapped clay around a bullseye and cut it and wrapped another, etc. jude (08:03:29 PM): Now she is reducing...fist of doom. jude (08:04:09 PM): Sliced lengthwise. bonsaikathy (08:04:15 PM): oh cool, bonsaikathy (08:04:24 PM): that's really a neat technique bonsaikathy (08:04:35 PM): slicing off the sides jude (08:04:53 PM): Actually, she followed the natural course that tree rings are laid down. One around another around another. bonsaikathy (08:05:18 PM): left a bulge in the middle so that when she sliced she'd get differant areas of the rings bonsaikathy (08:07:21 PM): she's laid down another sheet and is covering it with the thin slices she just took of the bullseye bonsaikathy (08:07:48 PM): it really looks like ceder or something like that bonsaikathy (08:07:55 PM): heavily grained bonsaikathy (08:08:07 PM): very pretty bonsaikathy (08:08:18 PM): lot's of light and dark shades jude (08:08:23 PM): Yes, I really like that. jude (08:09:46 PM): Imagine the color combinations you can use. bonsaikathy (08:10:12 PM): I'll give this a try tomorrow if I get time bonsaikathy (08:10:55 PM): she just took some canes and basket weaved them jude (08:11:13 PM): Sneaky! bonsaikathy (08:12:10 PM): almost looks like parquet flooring, what do you think jude (08:12:18 PM): Yes, it does. bonsaikathy (08:13:21 PM): wow!!! jude (08:13:28 PM): Yowser! bonsaikathy (08:14:11 PM): Looks like she took that basket weave and slices small slices, placed on a sheet and then put through the pasta machine jude (08:14:13 PM): That know looks almost like an eye. jude (08:14:21 PM): know=knot. bonsaikathy (08:14:29 PM): cats eyes jude (08:14:42 PM): My overactive imagination is at it again. bonsaikathy (08:15:00 PM): that one was my favorite rubensmodel (08:15:05 PM): silly question here-- do you guys get sound with the webcam? And if not, what's the problem with Mac users and the YM webcam? (I'm watching on a Mac....) and 2 -- is the color representation on your screens pretty close to what NJ is using? Here I'm seeing a weird orange and salmon and black bonsaikathy (08:15:18 PM): really looks like cedar to me bonsaikathy (08:15:22 PM): no sound here jude (08:15:26 PM): No sound. jakmiami (08:15:33 PM): I'm on a PC and I'm seeing the same colors you are Fearless Leader (08:15:38 PM): I mentioned earlier that I'm using a pumkin color jude (08:15:40 PM): I don't know about Macs, have a pc. Fearless Leader (08:15:45 PM): and hematite rubensmodel (08:15:48 PM): ok, thanks. I'm still new and trying to figure out what I'm seeing Fearless Leader (08:15:51 PM): because they were available already Fearless Leader (08:15:54 PM): no worries Fearless Leader (08:15:58 PM): the work mat is green chelyha (08:16:00 PM): it looks like red, black and pink to me Fearless Leader (08:16:05 PM): go from there as a guide Fearless Leader (08:16:12 PM): for color, I mean jude (08:16:15 PM): The colors seem pretty true to me. Fearless Leader (08:16:25 PM): but the technique is what's important Fearless Leader (08:16:30 PM): I didn't use realistic colors Fearless Leader (08:16:38 PM): because y'all have to pick your wood grain Fearless Leader (08:16:41 PM): light, dark bonsaikathy (08:16:43 PM): the one looks like cedar NJ Fearless Leader (08:16:43 PM): redwood Fearless Leader (08:16:46 PM): cherry Fearless Leader (08:16:50 PM): I think so too bonsaikathy (08:16:50 PM): very pretty rubensmodel (08:16:56 PM): it's really beautiful. Fearless Leader (08:16:58 PM): I have some cedar blocks I should take them out Fearless Leader (08:17:04 PM): we have wood all around us Fearless Leader (08:17:06 PM): for instance bonsaikathy (08:18:04 PM): I have a box full of differant exotic woods that are sliced really super thin that I got from a guy several months ago, will have to dig it out jude (08:18:05 PM): Right, I was just looking at my desk...faux oak, phony wood, but looks pretty real. bonsaikathy (08:18:22 PM): same here rubensmodel (08:18:51 PM): reminds me of cell division --lol! jude (08:19:02 PM): LOL Fearless Leader (08:19:13 PM): Ok bonsaikathy (08:19:15 PM): Fearless Leader (08:19:21 PM): that's it Fearless Leader (08:19:25 PM): the rest is up to you Fearless Leader (08:19:30 PM): picking what wood you want Fearless Leader (08:19:37 PM): which technique do you think you'll use Fearless Leader (08:19:42 PM): the first one of layered sheets Fearless Leader (08:19:45 PM): with a knot bonsaikathy (08:19:48 PM): I like the second one jude (08:20:00 PM): Me too. Fearless Leader (08:20:00 PM): or the tree method, twisting up the tree to get some vairations in the grain frogger70301 (08:20:05 PM): I did the first one. Fearless Leader (08:20:29 PM): I've been saying for 4 years that wood grain should be made the way wood grows in nature Fearless Leader (08:20:38 PM): just as our malachite is made like malachite is made in nature Fearless Leader (08:20:46 PM): then we can cut through the cane Fearless Leader (08:20:52 PM): in any direction Fearless Leader (08:20:56 PM): and it'll be true jude (08:21:03 PM): Right. Fearless Leader (08:21:08 PM): surface techniques, humming a few bars and faking it Fearless Leader (08:21:12 PM): not going to happen here Fearless Leader (08:21:30 PM): if we look to nature for help in our designs, then we can do things with our wood grain logs bonsaikathy (08:21:31 PM): what colors were those again bonsaikathy (08:21:45 PM): you said pumpkin, black and what color Fearless Leader (08:21:52 PM): What were they jude (08:21:54 PM): Silver jude (08:21:57 PM): ? Fearless Leader (08:21:59 PM): cooked pumkin pie Fearless Leader (08:22:11 PM): uncooked pumkin pie Fearless Leader (08:22:16 PM): and pumkin with cool whip Fearless Leader (08:22:17 PM): and hematite Fearless Leader (08:22:19 PM): I dunno Fearless Leader (08:22:20 PM): LOL Fearless Leader (08:22:33 PM): fart around mixing colors Fearless Leader (08:22:40 PM): find real wood chips, see if you can get samples Fearless Leader (08:22:42 PM): from Home Depo Fearless Leader (08:22:52 PM): samples they are throwing away for flooring Fearless Leader (08:22:57 PM): those little chips in a chain Fearless Leader (08:23:09 PM): they are great for ideas for color for wood Fearless Leader (08:23:32 PM): also different trees have different sort of grain bonsaikathy (08:23:32 PM): I'll have to get out that box of exotic woods tomorrow and have a look, there are some fantastic wood colors in there Fearless Leader (08:23:45 PM): some are distinct and others not, some are burly and swirly and some are not jakmiami left the room Fearless Leader (08:23:59 PM): bamboo is very light, straight lines Fearless Leader (08:24:07 PM): like in the bamboo minis on the wood tute page Fearless Leader (08:24:25 PM): So I'll take questions at this point frogger70301 (08:24:38 PM): Is the wood grain swap still on? frogger70301 (08:24:44 PM): Or did it fade out? Fearless Leader (08:25:23 PM): I never set a date for it, it needs more interest Fearless Leader (08:25:38 PM): bamboo and wood is the swap Fearless Leader (08:26:06 PM): Bamboo Fearless Leader (08:26:15 PM): Wood Fearless Leader (08:27:12 PM): So this is the end of the Wood Grain Demo unless we have any other questions. I have two days of logs and pix to put up on the webcam index Fearless Leader (08:27:21 PM): so I can't do demo too long tonight frogger70301 (08:27:23 PM): Well, I'm gonna go save pics as quick as I can. Fearless Leader (08:27:30 PM): no hurry, I'm behind two days bonsaikathy (08:27:34 PM): no questions here Fearless Leader (08:27:41 PM): so I have to put some time in getting these pix and logs up on the site jude (08:27:41 PM): Okie, thanks! Great demo! frogger70301 (08:27:44 PM): I need to get to bed though. jude (08:27:52 PM): Will send the log right away to youz. frogger70301 (08:27:53 PM): I agree. Great! Fearless Leader (08:27:55 PM): We can't stay up too late on Sunday Night bonsaikathy (08:27:56 PM): you do such a good job of explaining that I usually am not left with questions Fearless Leader (08:28:03 PM): Thank you Jude and Mitch for the back up frogger70301 (08:28:16 PM): no prob. frogger70301 (08:28:18 PM): anytime. Fearless Leader (08:28:21 PM): Kathy this demo is especially for you Fearless Leader (08:28:23 PM): and your trees Fearless Leader (08:28:27 PM): just reduce Fearless Leader (08:28:28 PM): a lot Fearless Leader (08:28:31 PM): high contrast Fearless Leader (08:28:34 PM): so the grain shows Fearless Leader (08:28:36 PM): ya know? bonsaikathy (08:28:42 PM): Oh I've already got my wheels rolling haha Fearless Leader (08:28:46 PM): huts, fences, Fearless Leader (08:28:49 PM): a cord of wood Fearless Leader (08:28:55 PM): oh hey Fearless Leader (08:29:00 PM): another quick wood source Fearless Leader (08:29:04 PM): leopard spot cane Fearless Leader (08:29:10 PM): sliced down the middle after twisting it a bit Fearless Leader (08:29:19 PM): quick logs for a fire that leopard spot cane Fearless Leader (08:29:21 PM): LOL Fearless Leader (08:29:28 PM): I used them for Hunka Burnin Love Fearless Leader (08:29:32 PM): in the spookie series bonsaikathy (08:30:34 PM): I have got to hit the sack, but this was great NJ, enjoyed it thoroughly as I always do Fearless Leader (08:30:42 PM): I gotta bounce too Fearless Leader (08:30:48 PM): the web site beckons bonsaikathy (08:30:49 PM): thanks ladies for your help also frogger70301 (08:30:50 PM): me too. Bye. Fearless Leader (08:30:50 PM): like Moby Dick bonsaikathy (08:30:52 PM): it's appreciated jude (08:31:01 PM): Night, all! bonsaikathy (08:31:02 PM): bye Fearless Leader (08:31:03 PM): Thanks for showing up frogger70301 left the room Fearless Leader (08:31:11 PM): I love this technique |