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norajean_sf: I'll save break chat and then we'll start to cover this armature with some skin. clayladyinred: LOL norajean_sf: brb norajean_sf: back norajean_sf: Let's do Roll Call, ok? norajean_sf: NoraJean, San Francisco clayladyinred: Shannon, WV buffy10207: how come I can only see you talking NJ? donnalny: Thanks Nora Bye donnalny has left the conference. clayladyinred: bye Donna huntmommy: kris, canada beadyeyedbrat: Kim San Diego CA greatauntjudy: jude, Tehachapi, CA minimadness423: KathyL Kentucky norajean_sf: Buffy I sent you an IM mazutwo: maz Australia minimadness423 has left the conference. clayladyinred: do you want shots of this NJ? norajean_sf: Buffy has to reboot after changing her preferences. norajean_sf: Gosh, we got to have tons of examples of this. norajean_sf: I tend to repeat myself, Gemini Moon, and all. LOL norajean_sf: so you can relax Shannon, thanks for asking. clayladyinred: no problem :-) buffy10207 has left the conference. norajean_sf: Ok, more on cam than in Conference, so I'll go ahead and just put one layer of skin clay on this figure. It will be unisex at this point. mazutwo: ok puff puff iam up to putting the head on BUT i think the head may be too small norajean_sf: add clay to it to make it bigger, Maz mazutwo: ok norajean_sf: Mine may be too big. We'll see how it turns out. norajean_sf: any questions before I put the first layer of skin on this? clayladyinred: nope norajean_sf: I'll go fast so it won't take much time. clayladyinred: it never goes this fast for me... LOL mazutwo: nj what thickness are the clay sheets you are using please norajean_sf: Maz, it's at the widest setting of the pasta machine norajean_sf: but I don't measure stuff exact. mazutwo: ok thanks donnarae44 has joined the conference. buffy10207 has joined the conference. clayladyinred: wb Donna You have invited donnarae44 to view your webcam. clayladyinred: hi Buffy You have invited buffy10207 to view your webcam. buffy10207: hi again mazutwo: has anyone seen taken my figure looks like an alien donnarae44: ty feel like i have just been pecked to death by a chicken lol norajean_sf: ok, got Donna and Buffy back in and with cam. clayladyinred: LOL donnarae44: dang kids. really need something when they know you are on it. kid?? 39 yrs old clayladyinred: too funny!! donnarae44: just made me a drink.... and locked the door clayladyinred: LOL donnarae44: what are we doing? mazutwo: mine will ring tonight and say mum you have to get a life because the computer is overtaking yours clayladyinred: NJ is fleshing the armature she just made clayladyinred: LOL donnarae44: lol tell her you dont want one.. the one you had was not near as cooperative as this one donnarae44: ok got it beadyeyedbrat: Tell them the computer doesn't talk back or ask for money. donnarae44: you got it rofl mazutwo: yeah tried that donnarae44: tell them you are tired of the chicken clayladyinred: LOL mazutwo: my figure is long in the body I think maybe a head size too long clayladyinred: oh now NJ is getting ready to apply muscles! clayladyinred: people aren't perfect Maz ;-) mazutwo: if I mentioned chicken they would think I should be put out to roost norajean_sf: I use leaf shape cutters to cut out muscle mass donnarae44: or cookin lol donnarae44: i wondered about that nj norajean_sf: because muscles are often leaf shape, or ovals, and it's almost like instant sculpting. clayladyinred: having an anatomy book in front of you might be helpful... for me anyway! mazutwo: I know but I would like a little more perfection in my life alas alack donnarae44: those are cool where do we get them? with the handles norajean_sf: The first two I cut won't have the rounded top, they will be the largest one and that will go on the front and back of the upper torso. We want to leave room for the collar bone. clayladyinred: understood Maz ;-) norajean_sf: Sculpt/RainingMen/AnatomyBookIndex norajean_sf: There's the anatomy book norajean_sf: LOL mazutwo: thanks Nj clayladyinred: those are made by Kemper Donna... most craft stores... walmart... or I think our official vendor has them... mazutwo: dash I always hit a little j donnarae44: our walmart has handly nothing clayladyinred: they may be made by someone else... not sure about that norajean_sf: These are Kemper tools, most craft stores have them and I do believe Karen at ClayAlley carries them. http://www.clayalley.com/kemper.htm posey4u: what kind of discount do we get fron Karen norajean_sf: We get discounts on Pounds of Premo. posey4u: great norajean_sf: we have to tell her that we're part of CITY-o-Clay posey4u: ok will do that donnarae44: no problem there. Im proud of that lol mazutwo: me too norajean_sf: Now my questions to you. norajean_sf: How do men's bodies differ from females? donnarae44: ment to tell you all. my daughter was so happy with her clay box donnarae44: their brain is smaller clayladyinred: ROFLMAO posey4u: more muscular mazutwo: larger muscle mass norajean_sf: How are we going to distribute the muscle mass to make this body look like a man, since we can't read his mind. LOL donnarae44: and in a different place norajean_sf: where is there more muscles? norajean_sf: where though? posey4u: smaller butt clayladyinred: bigger shoulders posey4u: arms norajean_sf: ok, smaller butt, do they have the same hips? clayladyinred: thighs norajean_sf: or waist? posey4u: no norajean_sf: are our backs as muscular as a man's? posey4u: no norajean_sf: me and my husband don't count norajean_sf: LOL clayladyinred: LOL mazutwo: biceps triceps and thay have hopefully flat abs norajean_sf: for I out weigh him and can carry him around to his chagrin. clayladyinred: darn, thought we could get James to model ;-) donnarae44: men should have teeny tiny heads norajean_sf: look at what we have there already, that's James norajean_sf: he is Jack Sprat and I'm his wife. clayladyinred: LOL silly NJ! donnarae44: rofl norajean_sf: Oh you don't know how true that is. mazutwo: join the club NJ norajean_sf: Ok, so let's start by cutting out leaf shapes in different sizes and slapping it on this body to form a man. norajean_sf: in a Ken Doll sort of way, that is. mazutwo: plastic look in the mirror and flirt with himself man clayladyinred: It's raining me... halleluyah!!! LOL clayladyinred: should be Men!! duh LOL norajean_sf: It's raining you? clayladyinred: LOL shhhhhh... you didn't see that! norajean_sf: Sculpt/RainingMen/Index norajean_sf: I have a section named "It's Raining Men" norajean_sf: focusing on male figures clayladyinred: cool! donnarae44: I'v had all the rain i can stand lol clayladyinred: ;-) mazutwo: brb have to run out for a min not leaving the conference clayladyinred: ok mazutwo: back clayladyinred: wb! donnarae44: phone bb huntmommy: my dd made a picnic for us, I better go enjoy it huntmommy: thank you NJ so much for lettign me sit in for a bit huntmommy has left the conference. norajean_sf: It's a guy clayladyinred: neat! clayladyinred: everyone must have been enthralled! norajean_sf: Now I think I could add some abs norajean_sf: and beef up his legs some what clayladyinred: looks like he should be a wrestler :-) norajean_sf: so that's the leaf shape muscle trick clayladyinred: it amazes me how you do that so fast! norajean_sf: http://www.norajean.com/New_Projects/ManAndBeast/AnatoMan/Index.htm norajean_sf: with some smoothing and definition he can look like this dude norajean_sf: well this part of the process doesn't need to take a long time clayladyinred: I think I try to make it perfect too soon norajean_sf: what takes time, I think, is studying the anatomy and then picking the size of the leaf shapes. clayladyinred: that makes sense clayladyinred: when did you do the man on that page? norajean_sf: leave yourself room for the rough draft stage, where we're just getting the clay mass to where we need it to be, then go over it to smooth and give definition. mazutwo: Nj could I please have the site for a femake body also thanks Maz clayladyinred: I'll have to work on that norajean_sf: This guy? Ya know... I did reorg for the holidays and I can't find him now. clayladyinred: LOL norajean_sf: http://www.norajean.com/10-07-05-OnMyTable.htm norajean_sf: The lady who was made at the same time turn into the Lady with the Pot. norajean_sf: there's various examples of making lady's bodies. Let me get a few links. clayladyinred: cool norajean_sf: Sculpt/MayDoll-2002/Group mazutwo: ok thanks i will bookmark it for reference. may I print it norajean_sf: Obachan-grp norajean_sf: Sure you can print them out Maz norajean_sf: they are there for your use norajean_sf: Doll-Tisha-Grp mazutwo: a whole book of NJ's expiditions in clay beadyeyedbrat has left the conference. clayladyinred: we keep trying to talk her into publishing a book norajean_sf: http://www.norajean.com/New_Projects/Josana/Index.htm mazutwo: yes it would be good idea clayladyinred: I love Tisha NJ norajean_sf: James named her mazutwo: you know what is on her site would be alot of books clayladyinred: how sweet! clayladyinred: very true Maz norajean_sf: Now some of the figures on my site just show after clay fabric was applied. norajean_sf: But all the bodies have the aluminum foil armature in them clayladyinred: does it seem to always work out right to have the leg and torso foils start from the same length? norajean_sf: The bodies all were bulked up with leaf shapes, just put in different places for men or for women. buffy10207: I've gotta run...thanks NJ for the demo & the help..nite all clayladyinred: bye Buffy buffy10207 has left the conference. mazutwo: bye norajean_sf: seems to work, quite by accident. Now if folks have those really wide aluminum foil rolls, then one might have to cut some off of the ends norajean_sf: or have Alice the Goon norajean_sf: LOL norajean_sf: that is still cracking me up clayladyinred: LOL norajean_sf: but arms should end at upper thigh, bend at the waist mazutwo: i have to look up alice the goon norajean_sf: feet are usually the length of the forearm clayladyinred: hmmmm.... good thing to remember norajean_sf: there's little tricks like that to sort out where things should bend or how big they should be, but honestly, if you use your eyes, you're the best judge. norajean_sf: Just don't be afraid to remove stuff that doesn't look right. norajean_sf: and keep on adding stuff until it does look right. We've seen so many bodies in our lives. norajean_sf: We look at faces each day clayladyinred: I'm always collecting pictures of people :-) norajean_sf: it's a matter of translating what we see into clay by addition or subtraction of clay. That's pretty much the trick of it. norajean_sf: I'm always looking at folks when I'm out and about, creeps people out clayladyinred: LOL norajean_sf: I had to stop sketching people on the bus at while waiting in line because that really creeps them out. mazutwo: practice practice practice smoosh when needed clayladyinred: too funny norajean_sf: So it's been 7 hours for me, if there aren't any questions I think we'll wind this up. I have the logs to put onto pages still. norajean_sf: and pluck out eyes if they offend thee clayladyinred: I really want to try some BBW figures :-) norajean_sf: Then you got to go for it mazutwo: that's better than telling them their life story that really sends them off clayladyinred: can't think of anything NJ.... thanks so much for the demo... it was just what the dr ordered! norajean_sf: collecting pictures of BBWs in the buff shouldn't be difficult. clayladyinred: LOL too true norajean_sf: I'm glad you were able to attend and help out with screen shots. clayladyinred: could just take home photos for that....LOL posey4u: thanks NJ for everything what time tomorrow will you be on norajean_sf: That's what I did. clayladyinred: me too! as always, it was my pleasure! clayladyinred: LOL mazutwo: i have book by some lady in holland of big women sculpted in paperclay it would be helpful norajean_sf: It was my pleasure. I'm going to be reviewing this tomorrow too. norajean_sf: So if you came in late, there's always tomorrow. clayladyinred: cool Maz! norajean_sf: Tomollow Tomollow as the Japanese Annie would sing. clayladyinred: LOL that cracks me up! norajean_sf: me too norajean_sf: LOL norajean_sf: we end up with that song in our head in a Japanese accent clayladyinred: I try to tell me kids how you do that.... they just look at me with their heads cocked to the side LOL clayladyinred: hehehe mazutwo: Same time tomorrow NJ norajean_sf: Ok, Ladies, it's time for me to get the demo log pages built. norajean_sf: Sure, same time, if we wake up on time. norajean_sf: LOL clayladyinred: ok.... have a good night... and hello to James :-) norajean_sf: both of us rushing out of bed to get to demo and we're in very different time zones. clayladyinred: did you get the album link? mazutwo: bye Nj bye all catch you tomorrow maybe must do the washing now norajean_sf: Yes I did, honey thanks. clayladyinred: ok... yw! norajean_sf: Oh don't remind me of chores. I still have the bathroom to clean. mazutwo: yes thank you norajean_sf: Ok, toodle loo everyone norajean_sf: xoxo clayladyinred: byeeeee everybody |
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