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Face Sculpting Index - Saturday Demo - Log 10- Making a Man and End of Demo

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norajean_sf: I'll save break chat and then we'll start to cover this armature with some skin.
clayladyinred: LOL
norajean_sf: brb
norajean_sf: back
norajean_sf: Let's do Roll Call, ok?
norajean_sf: NoraJean, San Francisco
clayladyinred: Shannon, WV
buffy10207: how come I can only see you talking NJ?
donnalny: Thanks Nora Bye
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clayladyinred: bye Donna
huntmommy: kris, canada
beadyeyedbrat: Kim San Diego CA
greatauntjudy: jude, Tehachapi, CA
minimadness423: KathyL Kentucky
norajean_sf: Buffy I sent you an IM
mazutwo: maz Australia
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clayladyinred: do you want shots of this NJ?
norajean_sf: Buffy has to reboot after changing her preferences.
norajean_sf: Gosh, we got to have tons of examples of this.
norajean_sf: I tend to repeat myself, Gemini Moon, and all. LOL
norajean_sf: so you can relax Shannon, thanks for asking.
clayladyinred: no problem :-)
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norajean_sf: Ok, more on cam than in Conference, so I'll go ahead and just put one layer of skin clay on this figure. It will be unisex at this point.
mazutwo: ok puff puff iam up to putting the head on BUT i think the head may be too small
norajean_sf: add clay to it to make it bigger, Maz
mazutwo: ok
norajean_sf: Mine may be too big. We'll see how it turns out.
norajean_sf: any questions before I put the first layer of skin on this?
clayladyinred: nope
norajean_sf: I'll go fast so it won't take much time.
clayladyinred: it never goes this fast for me... LOL
mazutwo: nj what thickness are the clay sheets you are using please
norajean_sf: Maz, it's at the widest setting of the pasta machine
norajean_sf: but I don't measure stuff exact.
mazutwo: ok thanks
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clayladyinred: wb Donna
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clayladyinred: hi Buffy
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buffy10207: hi again
mazutwo: has anyone seen taken my figure looks like an alien
donnarae44: ty feel like i have just been pecked to death by a chicken lol
norajean_sf: ok, got Donna and Buffy back in and with cam.
clayladyinred: LOL
donnarae44: dang kids. really need something when they know you are on it. kid?? 39 yrs old
clayladyinred: too funny!!
donnarae44: just made me a drink.... and locked the door
clayladyinred: LOL
donnarae44: what are we doing?
mazutwo: mine will ring tonight and say mum you have to get a life because the computer is overtaking yours
clayladyinred: NJ is fleshing the armature she just made
clayladyinred: LOL
donnarae44: lol tell her you dont want one.. the one you had was not near as cooperative as this one
donnarae44: ok got it
beadyeyedbrat: Tell them the computer doesn't talk back or ask for money.
donnarae44: you got it rofl
mazutwo: yeah tried that
donnarae44: tell them you are tired of the chicken
clayladyinred: LOL
mazutwo: my figure is long in the body I think maybe a head size too long
clayladyinred: oh now NJ is getting ready to apply muscles!
clayladyinred: people aren't perfect Maz ;-)
mazutwo: if I mentioned chicken they would think I should be put out to roost
norajean_sf: I use leaf shape cutters to cut out muscle mass
donnarae44: or cookin lol
donnarae44: i wondered about that nj
norajean_sf: because muscles are often leaf shape, or ovals, and it's almost like instant sculpting.
clayladyinred: having an anatomy book in front of you might be helpful... for me anyway!
mazutwo: I know but I would like a little more perfection in my life alas alack
donnarae44: those are cool where do we get them? with the handles
norajean_sf: The first two I cut won't have the rounded top, they will be the largest one and that will go on the front and back of the upper torso. We want to leave room for the collar bone.
clayladyinred: understood Maz ;-)
norajean_sf: Sculpt/RainingMen/AnatomyBookIndex
norajean_sf: There's the anatomy book
norajean_sf: LOL
mazutwo: thanks Nj
clayladyinred: those are made by Kemper Donna... most craft stores... walmart... or I think our official vendor has them...
mazutwo: dash I always hit a little j
donnarae44: our walmart has handly nothing
clayladyinred: they may be made by someone else... not sure about that
norajean_sf: These are Kemper tools, most craft stores have them and I do believe Karen at ClayAlley carries them.
posey4u: what kind of discount do we get fron Karen
norajean_sf: We get discounts on Pounds of Premo.
posey4u: great
norajean_sf: we have to tell her that we're part of CITY-o-Clay
posey4u: ok will do that
donnarae44: no problem there. Im proud of that lol
mazutwo: me too
norajean_sf: Now my questions to you.
norajean_sf: How do men's bodies differ from females?
donnarae44: ment to tell you all. my daughter was so happy with her clay box
donnarae44: their brain is smaller
clayladyinred: ROFLMAO
posey4u: more muscular
mazutwo: larger muscle mass
norajean_sf: How are we going to distribute the muscle mass to make this body look like a man, since we can't read his mind. LOL
donnarae44: and in a different place
norajean_sf: where is there more muscles?
norajean_sf: where though?
posey4u: smaller butt
clayladyinred: bigger shoulders
posey4u: arms
norajean_sf: ok, smaller butt, do they have the same hips?
clayladyinred: thighs
norajean_sf: or waist?
posey4u: no
norajean_sf: are our backs as muscular as a man's?
posey4u: no
norajean_sf: me and my husband don't count
norajean_sf: LOL
clayladyinred: LOL
mazutwo: biceps triceps and thay have hopefully flat abs
norajean_sf: for I out weigh him and can carry him around to his chagrin.
clayladyinred: darn, thought we could get James to model ;-)
donnarae44: men should have teeny tiny heads
norajean_sf: look at what we have there already, that's James
norajean_sf: he is Jack Sprat and I'm his wife.
clayladyinred: LOL silly NJ!
donnarae44: rofl
norajean_sf: Oh you don't know how true that is.
mazutwo: join the club NJ
norajean_sf: Ok, so let's start by cutting out leaf shapes in different sizes and slapping it on this body to form a man.
norajean_sf: in a Ken Doll sort of way, that is.
mazutwo: plastic look in the mirror and flirt with himself man
clayladyinred: It's raining me... halleluyah!!! LOL
clayladyinred: should be Men!! duh LOL
norajean_sf: It's raining you?
clayladyinred: LOL shhhhhh... you didn't see that!
norajean_sf: Sculpt/RainingMen/Index
norajean_sf: I have a section named "It's Raining Men"
norajean_sf: focusing on male figures
clayladyinred: cool!
donnarae44: I'v had all the rain i can stand lol
clayladyinred: ;-)
mazutwo: brb have to run out for a min not leaving the conference
clayladyinred: ok
mazutwo: back
clayladyinred: wb!
donnarae44: phone bb
huntmommy: my dd made a picnic for us, I better go enjoy it
huntmommy: thank you NJ so much for lettign me sit in for a bit
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norajean_sf: It's a guy
clayladyinred: neat!
clayladyinred: everyone must have been enthralled!
norajean_sf: Now I think I could add some abs
norajean_sf: and beef up his legs some what
clayladyinred: looks like he should be a wrestler :-)
norajean_sf: so that's the leaf shape muscle trick
clayladyinred: it amazes me how you do that so fast!
norajean_sf: with some smoothing and definition he can look like this dude
norajean_sf: well this part of the process doesn't need to take a long time
clayladyinred: I think I try to make it perfect too soon
norajean_sf: what takes time, I think, is studying the anatomy and then picking the size of the leaf shapes.
clayladyinred: that makes sense
clayladyinred: when did you do the man on that page?
norajean_sf: leave yourself room for the rough draft stage, where we're just getting the clay mass to where we need it to be, then go over it to smooth and give definition.
mazutwo: Nj could I please have the site for a femake body also thanks Maz
clayladyinred: I'll have to work on that
norajean_sf: This guy? Ya know... I did reorg for the holidays and I can't find him now.
clayladyinred: LOL
norajean_sf: The lady who was made at the same time turn into the Lady with the Pot.
norajean_sf: there's various examples of making lady's bodies. Let me get a few links.
clayladyinred: cool
norajean_sf: Sculpt/MayDoll-2002/Group
mazutwo: ok thanks i will bookmark it for reference. may I print it
norajean_sf: Obachan-grp
norajean_sf: Sure you can print them out Maz
norajean_sf: they are there for your use
norajean_sf: Doll-Tisha-Grp
mazutwo: a whole book of NJ's expiditions in clay
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clayladyinred: we keep trying to talk her into publishing a book
mazutwo: yes it would be good idea
clayladyinred: I love Tisha NJ
norajean_sf: James named her
mazutwo: you know what is on her site would be alot of books
clayladyinred: how sweet!
clayladyinred: very true Maz
norajean_sf: Now some of the figures on my site just show after clay fabric was applied.
norajean_sf: But all the bodies have the aluminum foil armature in them
clayladyinred: does it seem to always work out right to have the leg and torso foils start from the same length?
norajean_sf: The bodies all were bulked up with leaf shapes, just put in different places for men or for women.
buffy10207: I've gotta run...thanks NJ for the demo & the help..nite all
clayladyinred: bye Buffy
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mazutwo: bye
norajean_sf: seems to work, quite by accident. Now if folks have those really wide aluminum foil rolls, then one might have to cut some off of the ends
norajean_sf: or have Alice the Goon
norajean_sf: LOL
norajean_sf: that is still cracking me up
clayladyinred: LOL
norajean_sf: but arms should end at upper thigh, bend at the waist
mazutwo: i have to look up alice the goon
norajean_sf: feet are usually the length of the forearm
clayladyinred: hmmmm.... good thing to remember
norajean_sf: there's little tricks like that to sort out where things should bend or how big they should be, but honestly, if you use your eyes, you're the best judge.
norajean_sf: Just don't be afraid to remove stuff that doesn't look right.
norajean_sf: and keep on adding stuff until it does look right. We've seen so many bodies in our lives.
norajean_sf: We look at faces each day
clayladyinred: I'm always collecting pictures of people :-)
norajean_sf: it's a matter of translating what we see into clay by addition or subtraction of clay. That's pretty much the trick of it.
norajean_sf: I'm always looking at folks when I'm out and about, creeps people out
clayladyinred: LOL
norajean_sf: I had to stop sketching people on the bus at while waiting in line because that really creeps them out.
mazutwo: practice practice practice smoosh when needed
clayladyinred: too funny
norajean_sf: So it's been 7 hours for me, if there aren't any questions I think we'll wind this up. I have the logs to put onto pages still.
norajean_sf: and pluck out eyes if they offend thee
clayladyinred: I really want to try some BBW figures :-)
norajean_sf: Then you got to go for it
mazutwo: that's better than telling them their life story that really sends them off
clayladyinred: can't think of anything NJ.... thanks so much for the demo... it was just what the dr ordered!
norajean_sf: collecting pictures of BBWs in the buff shouldn't be difficult.
clayladyinred: LOL too true
norajean_sf: I'm glad you were able to attend and help out with screen shots.
clayladyinred: could just take home photos for that....LOL
posey4u: thanks NJ for everything what time tomorrow will you be on
norajean_sf: That's what I did.
clayladyinred: me too! as always, it was my pleasure!
clayladyinred: LOL
mazutwo: i have book by some lady in holland of big women sculpted in paperclay it would be helpful
norajean_sf: It was my pleasure. I'm going to be reviewing this tomorrow too.
norajean_sf: So if you came in late, there's always tomorrow.
clayladyinred: cool Maz!
norajean_sf: Tomollow Tomollow as the Japanese Annie would sing.
clayladyinred: LOL that cracks me up!
norajean_sf: me too
norajean_sf: LOL
norajean_sf: we end up with that song in our head in a Japanese accent
clayladyinred: I try to tell me kids how you do that.... they just look at me with their heads cocked to the side LOL
clayladyinred: hehehe
mazutwo: Same time tomorrow NJ
norajean_sf: Ok, Ladies, it's time for me to get the demo log pages built.
norajean_sf: Sure, same time, if we wake up on time.
norajean_sf: LOL
clayladyinred: ok.... have a good night... and hello to James :-)
norajean_sf: both of us rushing out of bed to get to demo and we're in very different time zones.
clayladyinred: did you get the album link?
mazutwo: bye Nj bye all catch you tomorrow maybe must do the washing now
norajean_sf: Yes I did, honey thanks.
clayladyinred: ok... yw!
norajean_sf: Oh don't remind me of chores. I still have the bathroom to clean.
mazutwo: yes thank you
norajean_sf: Ok, toodle loo everyone
norajean_sf: xoxo
clayladyinred: byeeeee everybody

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