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Fearless Leader: Fourth Log and Roll Call Please elissaheart: no, elec Fearless Leader: NoraJean, San Francisco frogger70301: Mitch, LA mommaclara2001: Clara, WV electron_forge: Douglas >>>Kansas rjchase222: Razma Fallbrook CA rickiebeth1: Rickie Beth in Walnut Creek, California marlea_anderson: I don't know Douglas- I thought I was making mokume gane but was making hidden magic- I don't know much about it elissaheart: MG can be done a number of ways. marlea_anderson: Marlea, PA elissaheart: Elissa CA stargazer_sbpcg: Jean - (*) , South San Francisco, CA bonsaikathy: Kathy in E. TN connie_flying: Connie in Reno miss_meme_30: missy va Fearless Leader: see where I'm going to cut, keeping the strands in twistie ties? Rossija: Mary, Ohio stargazer_sbpcg: ahhhhh marlea_anderson: cut right between the two ties frogger70301: ok1 rjchase222: got it kittekattz: did I miss roll call?? Sorry ... was dealing with my son spilling daddy's coffee on his 'puter marlea_anderson: oh no jude (greatauntjudy) joined the room rickiebeth1: Jean,,how did you get the star? I forgot where to go to get all of the stars and such kittekattz: anyone want a 5 y/o???? mine's been wound right tight all day! rickiebeth1: I do!! marlea_anderson: lol- i have a 10 year old and he's more than enough lately bonsaikathy: you can send him my way Fearless Leader: To attach this tail I need some raw clay, I'll bury the tail in the raw clay kittekattz: LOL ... watch what you ask for Rickiebeth ... rickiebeth1: I meant it!! bonsaikathy: I really miss having kids around rickiebeth1: not for a LONG time , but for a day ot two is a lot of fun for me kittekattz: come spend a week here ... I'll take care of THAT feeling for ya in a heartbeat!! Rossija: LOL rickiebeth1: I have no children so, I really enjoy the children.. bonsaikathy: :) miss_meme_30: i got my grand daughter tonight rickiebeth1: I do very well with children... marlea_anderson: now when you attach the hair to the clay how do you keep the center of the hair from coming out- just push it in to the clay really well? kittekattz: I've just been really busy lately, so they haven't gotten the amount of time and attention I usually give them, so they're right off the wall ... especially my 5 y/o rickiebeth1: I spent a LOY of time with kids from 1 day old to 16/17 rjchase222: I thinks so marlea but not to sure of that either miss_meme_30: how old r they now rickie beth? rickiebeth1: You need my 'have fun with the children' services rickiebeth1: they are about 10-20 years yonger than I marlea_anderson: ok- because i've tried something similar but the clay only held the outside edge of the hair...ended up with a hair donut, lol kittekattz: LOL ... I'm just looking for the holidays to be over and things to slow down so we can get back into a routine rickiebeth1: so, about 250-40 years old now kittekattz: you have 250 year old kids??? rickiebeth1: I meant 25 not 250!! elissaheart: lol rickiebeth1: funny typo!! LOL miss_meme_30: wow i didnt think u were old enough for kids that age...40 i mean kittekattz: my but you're .... ummm ... "well-preserved"!! LOL rickiebeth1: I am 51 almost 52.. miss_meme_30: i am 35 rjchase222: NJ is that clay on the end of the hair? miss_meme_30: feel like im 70 thou Fearless Leader: ok, mashing the raw clay around the hair, work the hair in to the clay really well, if you can bend the ends of the hair so there's C shape of hair around raw clay that's the best bet rickiebeth1: well preserved..that is funny!!! miss_meme_30: brb marlea_anderson: ohhh, ok Fearless Leader: I used a color that is unlike his body, so you can see it, if you used the same color as the body you won't see the connection like this. rjchase222: OK I was wondering about the color thing NJ now I got it marlea_anderson: for demonstration purposes lol Fearless Leader: yes, because it's difficult to see if the color matched Fearless Leader: and I can always cover this bit with decoration of some sort marlea_anderson: neat Fearless Leader: so any questions on using synthetic hair extensions or adding hair to an already cured figure? marlea_anderson: so far so good- is there a trick to styling it? Fearless Leader: these are meant to be shampooed, styled and such, that's why I like it better than doll hair and you can do a bunch of stuff with it. rjchase222: NJ I have enough probs just gettin my own hair done! marlea_anderson: like with my fairy- I'd like to pull the hair in an updo- how do I make it without the doll look Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/LEXX-Home/CowboyKai-3d Fearless Leader: Here are two Kai heads with Micro "S" braids, one with the braids hanging down and one in the Brunnen G style marlea_anderson: ing odd...just pull wisps down? elissaheart: nj. , does the connecting part just stay raw? Fearless Leader: no cure that butt, Elissa Fearless Leader: LOL elissaheart: lol marlea_anderson: wow -that's a fancy "do" marlea_anderson: lol Fearless Leader: keep the synthetic hair off of the oven rack, if I'm curing it a couple of times then I'll wrap a damp paper towel around the hair, keep it moist Fearless Leader: it doesn't get near the clay so it won't hurt the clay protecting the hair like that. stargazer_sbpcg: ahhh good tip! :) Fearless Leader: any other questions about this hair trick? Missy went AFK? marlea_anderson: iming her now marlea_anderson: no answer marlea_anderson: and this is what she was dying to see elissaheart: I've always wondered how it owuld work if you superglued a tightly bunched end and then drilled a hole into the cured clay and inserted it into the hole. Have you ever tried that? Rossija: I think she saw most of it.... Fearless Leader: Then rather than go forward, since Missy really wanted to see this part, let's take a coffee break, do our biologicals marlea_anderson: works for me NJ stargazer_sbpcg: k Rossija: food! marlea_anderson: eyes were turning yellow Rossija: yipes, Marlea! Fearless Leader: COFFEEEEEE Fearless Leader: and Doug, I did eat, before you ask. You Dad you. stargazer_sbpcg: just brewed some fresh here, NJ... stargazer_sbpcg: passes a cup... :) electron_forge: Actually that was the OTHER Doug but glad just the same ;) miss_meme_30: back for a few...then its off to church for dinner...hehehehe marlea_anderson: lol Fearless Leader: Ok, Missy Fearless Leader: you got it about the hair, we're just planting the ends of the hair in raw clay and then curing again miss_meme_30: yes miss_meme_30: but dont know if i will have the patience for it...lol Fearless Leader: the main points of using hair extensions, how to twist the hair to store it without making yourself crazy, and mixing colors you did see Fearless Leader: using the twistie ties... miss_meme_30: yes! miss_meme_30: cut between the 2 miss_meme_30: ty miss_meme_30: never thought about doin it that way! marlea_anderson: I'm going shopping tonight- I'm going to keep my eyes open for a Sally's while I'm out I want to try this Fearless Leader: now about the patience issue elissaheart: patience? what's that??? Fearless Leader: if you're working on something you adore, there is no time, it goes timeless for you love your subject Fearless Leader: you want to be looking and googling at your subject for hours and hours rjchase222: Patience??????? I'm the most patient person in the world do ya know? :) electron_forge: OK all I have to leave. It was fun. See you next time! marlea_anderson: bye doug miss_meme_30: bye doug marlea_anderson: las marlea_anderson: lol rjchase222: bye Doug rickiebeth1: Bye Doug miss_meme_30: man i am hungry miss_meme_30: lol electron_forge left the room miss_meme_30: what is that thing in front of the man??? marlea_anderson: a baby? marlea_anderson: a vessel? connie_flying left the room rjchase222: its a head! miss_meme_30: lol vlady6us joined the room marlea_anderson: father and child? marlea_anderson: or man and small woman? rickiebeth1: Hi Sandy!!!! rjchase222: wife/girlfriend? miss_meme_30: hiya sandie miss_meme_30: he beheaded his wife!!! vlady6us: hi rickie beth vlady6us: hi missy frogger70301: NJ went invisible again? Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Sculpt/MerBruce/Index rjchase222: O no not a beheading? vlady6us: oh bummer vlady6us: hi nj vlady6us: hello everyone Fearless Leader: helping KitteKat, now did you check out MerBruce? rjchase222: yes awesome to say the least.......... Fearless Leader: It's using Bruce Willis as my inspiration. He's doing a program called True Dads, Fearless Leader: and his website has stories of him and his children, so I gave him a baby to hold Fearless Leader: sculpt what you love rjchase222: Yes seen it advertised now if I can just stay awake long enough. Fearless Leader: look at a face that you love until you know every hill and valley, every laugh line and color of the eye rjchase222: hmmmmmmmmm wondering who is the "man" in my life for my jester? rickiebeth1: I am tired also....up too late these past 3 nights... marlea_anderson: looks like the bamboo cane on his back rjchase222: NJ u r so right tho about doing it & loving doing it thats how I feel about my jester! Fearless Leader: ammonite, I'll get the link marlea_anderson: cool- thanks miss_meme_30: wow that is cool Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Faux/Ammonite/Group Fearless Leader: Way easy too miss_meme_30: i hate to have to run but leavin in about 10 mins! vlady6us: bye missy Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Faux/Ammonite/003 This is what's on his back mommaclara2001: Bye Missy marlea_anderson: see ya missy...get some good grub Fearless Leader: See ya Missy miss_meme_30: thanks for the demo nj! rickiebeth1: Have a great evening... miss_meme_30: hugssssssssss miss_meme_30 left the room marlea_anderson: wow- that link is beautiful Fearless Leader: my favorite is the blue ammonite box rickiebeth1: mine, too!! marlea_anderson: so pretty- all of it Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Rainbow/Done/Spring-thm Fearless Leader: check this out, there's some obscure clay tricks there marlea_anderson: wow Fearless Leader: 15 on down is what I want to share right now Fearless Leader: Stargazer, you there? Fearless Leader: nope she's on the attendee list and not on the cam list, Fearless Leader: that weird yahoo chat echo... marlea_anderson: that box and pendant are gorgeous Fearless Leader: That box and many things of this series was made with the Pearl Premo colors, Pearl Blue, Pearl Red and Pearl Green marlea_anderson: once i get done my fairy and tootin santa I'm trying that Fearless Leader: these are the colors that are going to be discontinued in pound sizes this January pennyi joined the room marlea_anderson: no way Fearless Leader: way MountainMaMaDuke (pdduke2003) joined the room Fearless Leader: hey Penny Fearless Leader: Hey Pauline vlady6us: hi penny rjchase222: did u mix anything else with them? pennyi: hiya marlea_anderson: they're so pretty vlady6us: hi pauline Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Rainbow/Done/Spring-thm marlea_anderson: hi MountainMaMaDuke: Hi Folks! Fearless Leader: We're reviewing things made with Premo pearl colors rickiebeth1: Hi Penny, Pauline... MountainMaMaDuke: cool! pennyi: hi rickie MountainMaMaDuke: Hi Sandie, Rickie Beth and NJ marlea_anderson: can you get the same effect by mixing pearl with another color? Fearless Leader: If you click on the thumbnails and read the captions in the larger picture it'll tell you technique and colors used Fearless Leader: no, Marlea rickiebeth1: It is fun to have you here... Fearless Leader: you loose saturation marlea_anderson: darn it rjchase222: then what will we do when they discontinue these colors?? any ideas? Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Rainbow/Done/Spring-015 vlady6us: they arent discontinuing the colors. just the large blocks of those colors marlea_anderson: that is d a r n - i just noticed my font made the R N look like an M Rossija: They're just discontinuing the 1'lb blocks, not the 2 oz. size. Sigh! bonsaikathy: for me same difference Fearless Leader: That's the blue ammonite box, large picture. bonsaikathy: I don't buy small blocks bonsaikathy: only the 1 pound blocks Fearless Leader: me too Fearless Leader: and I use those colors rickiebeth1: you can then color the clay with paints or inks...for the color/pearl effect.. bonsaikathy: so do I NJ vlady6us: hello pauline bonsaikathy: some of the ones being dicontinued are my favorites Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Rainbow/Done/Spring-004 Fearless Leader: Check this out Fearless Leader: easy trick Rossija: I watch the sales & when Michael's has the 2 oz. for $0.99, I stock up. bonsaikathy: I would too if it wasn't over an hours drive from me, oh well rickiebeth1: that is a good price!!!!0.99 Fearless Leader: take layers of gold and translucent, cut long slices and lay down in a zig zag pattern and press. Very pretty, very easy. marlea_anderson: very pretty Rossija: Gotta pay attention to their ads in the Sunday paper. Rossija: And, beat the other local clayers! vlady6us: i check the ad on line sunday as soon as i get up marlea_anderson: lol rjchase222: NJ do u layer the gold & trans & then cut? Fearless Leader: Using gold and brown, or gold and translucent, and making your sheets really thin, you can get some interesting looks with just a chevron flip leaf slices on a background. I'll get a couple of links, going for the gold. Fearless Leader: yup, Razma rickiebeth1: I can check out the sales in my paper..if someone wants to use them... I generally do not use very much Premo... rjchase222: OOOOOOOOO goody I got one figured out gang! heehee Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Sheets/GoldLeaves/onGreen-thm.htm Gold and translucent on a green background marlea_anderson: lol- congrats hon' Fearless Leader: just chevron flips, just leaves, the trick is to press the gold and trans together, make the layers thin, Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Faux/TigersEye/sheet-thm Fearless Leader: This is gold and a translucent the color of weak coffee, chevron flip leaf canes pressed on gold Fearless Leader: easy as dirt Fearless Leader: big clay bang for the buck. rjchase222: yep now that I've got the "dcf" figured out! heehee rickiebeth1: dcf = ?? marlea_anderson: wow- that tiger's eye page really does give a bang Rossija: dreaded chevron flip rjchase222: dreaded chevron flip!!!!! LMAO greatauntjudy left the room rickiebeth1: oh yes..now I recall..what it is....LOL Fearless Leader: http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u-4206562&a-31309167&f-0 rjchase222: rickie it only took me 3 months to get it figured out! :) Fearless Leader: this is the screen shots of taking a gold and brown sheet like those shown and making an Inro box, multi layered container with a top. rickiebeth1: and now you are the expert... MountainMaMaDuke: Hey Sandie: I have one pair of PJs done, plus the pants to the second pair. Just have to make the top to the second set vlady6us: way cool pauline vlady6us: good going MountainMaMaDuke: what is in the web cam photo? rjchase222: Bruce Willis' back :) rickiebeth1: the man is in the web cam pic rickiebeth1: bruce willis alix (alixnc) joined the room marlea_anderson: pretty frogger70301: oh, wow! MountainMaMaDuke: NJ- he has a nice six pack tummy! marlea_anderson: that was a nice little pop-in surprise stargazer_sbpcg: oooooooooh!! elissaheart: Gotta go now. Thanks for the great demo, nj! vlady6us: bye elissa hlynn1975: very nice NJ elissaheart: ttfn! Rossija: Lik that one! marlea_anderson: I'm just going to keep saying pretty..pretty pretty pretty- it's all so... elissaheart left the room rjchase222: bye elissa marlea_anderson: pretty rickiebeth1: Bye ELISSA frogger70301: oh, I love that! hlynn1975: ok, NJ, quit it, I'm drooling into my keyboard. LOL rickiebeth1: oops, ...too late.. Rossija: LOL, Heather MountainMaMaDuke: how do you get the rounded out shape? marlea_anderson: wow frogger70301: ohhh! MountainMaMaDuke: I LIKE that one hlynn1975: lovely NJ rjchase222: I bet she used her fingers to shape it rickiebeth1: you can also try Luminere paints for a similar look...on a bleached translucent..or even regular translucent clay pennyi: well i gotta go for now. I have some cookie batter waiting for me. i have given away about `12 doz hungarian christmas cookies Fearless Leader: ok, take a pinch pot pennyi: bye pennyi left the room Fearless Leader: you made with pressed chevron flip leaves on a sheet rjchase222: ok I know that one Fearless Leader: and gather it to a point, twist that's one end, the other end add a natasha bead and hang as an ornament marlea_anderson: cool vlady6us: have to reboot. brb marlea_anderson: bye penny vlady6us left the room Fearless Leader: to get these colors you got to get the Premo Pearl colors rjchase222: guess I'll b busy in the shop this week marlea_anderson: is there a way to make faux carnival glass? marlea_anderson: would pearl-ex work for that? Fearless Leader: when you figure it out, you tell us rickiebeth1: time to order a lot of th ePremo pearl colors!!! rjchase222: me thinks u r right rickie! Fearless Leader: now this is what those colors look like mixed with pearl marlea_anderson: lol- I'll try the px and let ya know what happens MountainMaMaDuke: which large bars of Premo colors are they going to discontinue? marlea_anderson: it really does tone them down a lot rickiebeth1: Pearl Ex can be used...for many things...you can experiment... Fearless Leader: I'll get the link for this abalone fold experiment, the finished bits, nice to use pearl with any colors to get these effects kittekattz left the room rjchase222: I'm confused did she use pearl clay or pearl ex? marlea_anderson: pearl clay rickiebeth1: you can also dd mica to the clay..a really fine powder and it will give soem of th esame effects rjchase222: Thanks!! Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Faux/abalone/abaPaces/2002- Done-thm.htm Pearl and other colors mixed Fearless Leader: check out this page please Fearless Leader: you'll see the pictures of the things I just showed in cam marlea_anderson: i love it all. rjchase222: yep goin to b burning the midnite oil me thinks.......... :) Fearless Leader: now you see what I mean about the saturation of color marlea_anderson: yes, i definitely do marlea_anderson: what a huge difference Fearless Leader: the top one was made with the Premo Pearl colors right out of the pack Fearless Leader: and below is when pearl colored clay is mixed in rjchase222: wow what a difference Fearless Leader: The reason why I'm taking y'all over here marlea_anderson: about how much pearl was mixed in? MountainMaMaDuke: I love the softness of your colors in the bottom one Fearless Leader: is to let you know we got some fiddling about to do with pearl clay rjchase222: WE DO???? Fearless Leader: the abalone fold is sweeeeeet, Momma marlea_anderson: ooooh- let me see what I have hlynn1975: gotta go make dinner, thanks for the demo rickiebeth1: with pearl you can then add a variety of coloring materials to achieve a somewhat similar effect... hlynn1975 left the room MountainMaMaDuke: so nice! rickiebeth1: abalone os my favorite one of NJ's mommaclara2001: That is ver pretty. mommaclara2001: very MountainMaMaDuke: what dd mica powder were you talking about Rickie Beth? Fearless Leader: Plus, as Rickie Beth said, as you mix different colors, different inclusions, you get such a variety of different effects Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Faux/abalone/abaPaces/2002-Done-001 Done-001.htm Fearless Leader: Check this picture please rickiebeth1: I have a huge pile of clay that did not work out and a small block that did work... Fearless Leader: That picture, the abalone fold pinch pot, I want to reproduce Fearless Leader: I gave that one away marlea_anderson: the colors are great stargazer_sbpcg: ooooooooh!! ahhhhhhhhh!!! Fearless Leader: Are you ready to see some other things done with the Premo Pearl colors and using the folding trick? I have a bunch of samples here rickiebeth1: Pauline..about mica ..I have soem that I addes...and I got fair results, but I think it could work out well given a littlr more experiment time. MountainMaMaDuke: ok rickiebeth1: I have a small jar of it..I cannot recall the manufacturer... rjchase222: NJ on the page that shows the pallet it also shows TLS why? marlea_anderson: wow- that catches the light nicely rickiebeth1: want some of it? I sent a lot to the newbie boxes a while ago... Fearless Leader: part of an TLS abalone experiment to see how much light went through rjchase222: so does one use it or not? Fearless Leader: these leaves are the Dreaded Chevron flip Fearless Leader: but the trick is the sheets were a blend of green to purple before the slice rjchase222: Now that I've got the dcf I just need to figure out how to mix the colors! :) Fearless Leader: and flip, so we get the purple at the end on one side and on the top on the other, easy trick Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/ColorCard/MainGroup MountainMaMaDuke: I have been playing around with added small amounts of color to translucent clay ( ?10 to 90) and they make very muted beads for some necklaces Fearless Leader: That's the TLS abalone fold experiment on the upper left rjchase222: so u can use the TLS or not just depending on what one wants correct? rickiebeth1: try adding the mica .it is really interesting...not too expensive..I have huge jar of it,.I am happy to share with anyone that wants some mica powder....It also can explode if not stored properly!!! Fearless Leader: do color cards and find colors you can mix and remember the ratios bonsaikathy: one of my favorite things, color mixing marlea_anderson: gosh- why does it explode? Fearless Leader: Razma, think of TLS as glue, as a fluid to mix pigment like the mica powder RB was talking about, or mix with clay color for whipped cream or instant hair. rjchase222: OK got it now NJ thanks Fearless Leader: Ok, let me show you these other tins here, this is with dark colors we'll go lighter in hue bonsaikathy: well folks, I'm going in to relax with hubby, my vacation started today and hubby actually got off at 5 today so we have a rare evening together rickiebeth1: it is just the chemical make-up..I had no problems with it , but it does come with a warning..Mica is how Pearl Ex works... bonsaikathy: catch you all later marlea_anderson: bye kathy rjchase222: Rickie beth I wld b interested in a small thing of mica to try Fearless Leader: see ya Bonsai Kathy Rossija: bye Katy -- enjoy! Rossija: Kathy mommaclara2001: Goodnight Kathy. rickiebeth1: OK, I need you to email me your address - basic postal info. rjchase222: Nite Kathy rickiebeth1: bye Kathy Fearless Leader: then we go lighter marlea_anderson: i like the color in that bonsaikathy left the room rjchase222: rickie what is your em addy plz? marlea_anderson: the face looks like chrome Fearless Leader: this is the one on the MSATClayPicture home page MountainMaMaDuke: the drifting of color from one corner to another is so pretty marlea_anderson: is that solid clay under there or rolled over and attached? Fearless Leader: the face has backing clay, used a sculpted face and made a mold, the humps beside the face are hollow marlea_anderson: neat Fearless Leader: put clay sheets with pattern inside the face mold for this effect rjchase222: OOOOOOOOO neat idea! Fearless Leader: by matching the colors it looks like the face is rising from those colors Fearless Leader: and that's abalone fold with a blend rickiebeth1: I really like the abalone NJ makes MountainMaMaDuke: me too! Fearless Leader: http://www.norajean.com/Tins/Index.htm kittekattz joined the room Fearless Leader: http://www.norajean.com/Tins/Index.htm Rossija: wb Kitte Fearless Leader: those are the tins we were looking at Fearless Leader: I'll send log through the list, brb kittekattz: Yeahhhhhh ... I got back in!! Thanks!!!! |
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