12-18-04: Saturday Demo: Fifth Log : Review of Rose and flower petal talk
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Fearless Leader: Fifth Log, Roll Call and 10 Minute break after, please Fearless Leader: NoraJean, San Francisco marlea_anderson: marlea, pa mommaclara2001: Clara At Glenville, West Virginia MountainMaMaDuke: Pauline (MaMaDuke) Marlow NH kittekattz: Lisa in Maine ... back after a loooongg absence!! :-) rjchase222: Razma Fallbrook CA Rossija: Mary, Ohio rickiebeth1: Rickie Beth - of Polymer Clay Your Way - child of the Universe!!! (Presently in Walnut Creek apartment) rickiebeth1: LOL.... MountainMaMaDuke: LOL rjchase222: OOOOOOO rickie that certainly was a longggggggggggg intro!!!!! LMAO rickiebeth1: I was overcome with an urge to type a long intro.. rjchase222: it must b the clay monster in ya!!! :) MountainMaMaDuke: spontaneous is good! rickiebeth1: has never happened before this time...Yes, I am now going to need a lot of therapy...LOL mommaclara2001: :-* rjchase222: Naw just grab come clay & make something u'll b ok! LMAO Rossija: LOL, Rickie rickiebeth1: I type a lot of things, then delete them because they are tooo silly... Rossija: Nothing's too silly for this crowd, I think! rickiebeth1: yes, I heard that clay is as good if not better than a psychiatrist or therapist.. Rossija: That's what makes it so fun! rjchase222: Me thinks u r right Rossija!!!! rickiebeth1: I am totally committed to polymer clay therapy.. meplus5kids joined the room Rossija: :D connie_flying joined the room rickiebeth1: besides I end up making a lot of cool things..a perfect form of therapy for me stargazer_sbpcg: i've got to run... gotta help my sis prep for holiday party... Thanks NJ!! (*) rickiebeth1: maybe we should open upa nation/world wide office of polymer therapy rickiebeth1: bye Jean!! Rossija: Great idea, Rickie! mommaclara2001: Sounds good , Rickie beth stargazer_sbpcg: bye RickieBeth! cu soon! :) stargazer_sbpcg: bye all! stargazer_sbpcg left the room mommaclara2001: Bye Rossija: In a way, the discussion list is that.... NJ's rambles are very therapeutic. kittekattz: that is therapy WITH polymer clay and not theraby FROM polymer clay, right? rjchase222: LMAO kittekattz: sheesh ... feed me then I can't type! marlea_anderson: lol...i need a 12 step program... rickiebeth1: well, however you prefer as long as you do not cook with it or eat it.. Rossija: we're all pc addicts, and we've come to terms with that -- we LIKE it! rjchase222: I've got to get busy have a friend comin over & cookin steaks out on the grill Fearless Leader: Back and it's exactly 10 minutes Fearless Leader: whew Fearless Leader: I didn't take the last break because we got Missy back in the room and we had to do HAIR Fearless Leader: just HAD to marlea_anderson: nicely done nj rjchase222: Was beginning to wonder if we wld have to send u a rope NJ! Fearless Leader: so my teeth were floating Rossija: LOL, NJ rickiebeth1: so, you are leaving us? marlea_anderson: lol- vlady6us joined the room Fearless Leader: Nope, just did my biologicals is all, goes out, more gets put back in. Fearless Leader: it's rather silly when I think on it MountainMaMaDuke: wb Sandie vlady6us: ty pauline kittekattz: Hmmm ... miniscene in an old pair of dentures?? LOL Fearless Leader: Ok, let me get the link on how to do the abalone fold, something like you see in the cam kittekattz: alright ... I know that was TOO weird rickiebeth1: Kittie, nothing is too weird for me... Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Faux/abalone/FoldClay/Group- thms.htm kittekattz: You'll be the first to try that, right???? LOL kittekattz: ooooo ... that's pretty NJ Fearless Leader: for those who are interested in getting this very pretty and very easy effect, book mark that tute Fearless Leader: here's another tin I've had in progress for a while, she needs eyes, I got tons of things that need eyes, just not in the mood yet. marlea_anderson: so THAT'S how you do it connie_flying: that's pretty marlea_anderson: motherly...she seems kind kittekattz: oh wow ... how do you get her to "blend" right in like that? Or is that a stupid question? mommaclara2001 left the room mommaclara2001 joined the room Fearless Leader: ever match plaid when sewing? marlea_anderson: wb Momma Fearless Leader: you line up the colored lines and cut your pattern? mommaclara2001: Thanks. Rossija: not if I can avoid it! kittekattz: yeah ... but I've usually got more material to work with! Fearless Leader: you know the trick of it, lining up similar colors and then cutting, right? rjchase222: no what is it? kittekattz: I take it you start out with a larger "sheet" on the bottom before you make the folds? vlady6us: just like if u were cutting out a pattern on striped fabric Fearless Leader: To make the colors of the clay match you put the sheets you're working with and line up the colors, make sure when you're adding something to the top that the colors match, if that's what you want kittekattz: wow ... those just look SO cool Fearless Leader: in this case I wanted the colors to match, pinkish on one side and bluish on the other side MountainMaMaDuke: mmmmmm, that was so good. I spoiled myself today and made some apple crisp. Topped it off with coffee ice cream and hope that my heart does not stop in the middle of the night LOL vlady6us: yummy pauline Fearless Leader: that would have been a end of the folded sheet scrap, but I didn't want to loose it, so I put it into a face mold and found the spot to put her based on which colors were where. I lined up the colored sheet before putting it in the mold so the color division wasn't on the diagonal. MountainMaMaDuke: does not help the waistline, but sure helps the spirits! rickiebeth1: sounds like my kind of desert/meal!! MountainMaMaDuke: lol Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Faux/abalone/FoldClay/Group- thms.htm So that's how to fold clay sheets with a lot of pearl in it to get that abalone with those lines embedded. Fearless Leader: So we're coming to the last half hour of demo, are there any questions or requests? rjchase222: me thinks me is goin to have to try that this week! rjchase222: cld u do a quick rose for me?? Fearless Leader: sure rjchase222: Please??? rjchase222: Thanks! kittekattz: do you usually use molds for the faces or do them "from scratch"? Fearless Leader: I have two color sheet, I'll use leaf shape kemper cutters. tigger070377 joined the room Fearless Leader: I do the face sculpting from scratch, make a mold of that. I don't use commercial molds because I find the faces bland rjchase222: O good I've got the leaf shapers too! :) Fearless Leader: scraping the dust off of this sheet. LOL rickiebeth1: LOL rjchase222: now u shld have had this clay between some wax paper NJ heehee kittekattz: so how long have you been working with Polymer Clay, NJ ... you're SO good at this! Fearless Leader: I began running this list 5 years ago rickiebeth1: if you use something like Saran Wrap..you will be able to use teh cutters with no problems... Fearless Leader: I knew a little about clay and nothing about minis kittekattz: is that when you started, though? kittekattz: gotcha Fearless Leader: but it's been 5 years of every day, that's why I have two sites and the older the tute, the more rough my skills were jude (greatauntjudy) joined the room Fearless Leader: the sites are just a documentation of my clay journey, disasters and all, Huh Aunt Jude? tigger070377: Hi all from Pat Fearless Leader: You came for my Flowers? rickiebeth1: sheet of clay, then layer of Sara wrap, then cutters ..and you can cut forever and as long as the rSaran wrap has no holes in it.. marlea_anderson: hey jude kittekattz: LOL ... my "best" isn't even close to your Fearless Leader: Let's do a quick roll call since we have new folks showing up jude: You doing flowers, NJ? Neato. Fearless Leader: NoraJean, San Francisco kittekattz: rough" rickiebeth1: Hey Jude vlady6us: sandie florida Rossija: Mary, Ohio MountainMaMaDuke: Pauline NH mommaclara2001: Clara WV kittekattz: Lisa Maine rickiebeth1: Rickie Beth of Walnut Creek, California jude: <---Tehachapi, California marlea_anderson: Marlea, PA connie_flying: Connie in Reno tigger070377: Pat from Florida rjchase222: Razma Fallbrook CA rickiebeth1: the Saran wrap is good to use because there are no fingerprints or marks from the cutter on th clay,,... jude: That teardrop shape is great for flower petals. rickiebeth1: That is the shape that I was using marlea_anderson: i'll have to try the saran wrap- rickiebeth1: also, the edges are itered/smoothed with the Saran wrap technique... rjchase222: I use baggies, saran wrap & wax paper! :) Fearless Leader: as you can see there's two colors to this petal, some roses are like that. A darker color will be on the under side of the petal. So before we build this rose, we have to stretch out the wide part of the leaf shape and pull the pointed end to form our rose petal marlea_anderson: cool kittekattz: you use the cutters directly over the saran wrap? rickiebeth1: I am pretty sure they mentioned Saran wrap..but first check out the compatability of the clay and the wrap vlady6us: yes kittie rickiebeth1: yes, directlyover the Saran wrap.. kittekattz: cool ... thanks jude: Question? What purpose does the Saran Wrap serve? rickiebeth1: and you do not need to ahndle the clay very much..si it will help keep the shape from distorting.. vlady6us: to make it so they dont have jagged edges jude: Okie, thanks. vlady6us: works pretty good too rjchase222: but if u go & look at flowers out in the garden they don't have neat edges rickiebeth1: it is to keep the cutters from sticking to the clay, to miter the edges of the clay, to reduce the handling of the clay,,..so no fingerprints.. vlady6us: youre right rj rickiebeth1: the edges are still crisp.. Fearless Leader: ok, are we ready for the rose? rickiebeth1: but no ragged edges.. jude: Ready! rjchase222: YES kittekattz: yep ready! connie_flying: yup Fearless Leader: take one petal and elongate, wrap it around the tip of something for the inner bud marlea_anderson: yeppers rickiebeth1: which sometimes happens when not using the wrp.. pamelasue1961 joined the room mommaclara2001: Hi Pam vlady6us: hi pam rickiebeth1: Hi Pam... Fearless Leader: take the smaller petals and wrap around the center bud, work your way out with larger petals. rjchase222: Hi Pam NJ is makin a rose for us! rickiebeth1: a beautiful rose.... pamelasue1961: Hi all marlea_anderson: hi pam jude: Gorgeous, NJ! mommaclara2001: So pretty. jude: I like the two-toned look, too. rickiebeth1: it is a very beautiful flower.... rjchase222: Thanks NJ I got it now!!!!!!!!! Had most of the steps now I have them all heehee MountainMaMaDuke: oops! sorry rickiebeth1: the 2-tone is really a good effect... kittekattz: very very pretty!! mingapunga joined the room mingapunga: hello everyone mommaclara2001: Hello rickiebeth1: Hello...glad you are here.. mingapunga: I'm so sorry, my guets just stepped out a few minutes befor and now its nearby 1 o'clock, and I'M tired rjchase222: Dang it NJ that looks like a real rose!!!!!!! Right out of my GOH!! :) marlea_anderson: taht's just beautiful rickiebeth1: It is nice that you took the time to come here.. Fearless Leader: well here's a rose for sweet dreams Ulrike. MountainMaMaDuke: I need to leave, have to get back to my Christmas gift sewing projects. Hope that you all have a great night! vlady6us: hi ulrike Fearless Leader: you too Pauline, we closing down in 15 minutes vlady6us: see ya pauline rjchase222: bye mommaclara2001: Goodnight Pauline kittekattz: how do you finish off the back if you were to use it for jewelry or something like that ? marlea_anderson: bye mingapunga: sweet dreams of roses, well sounds good rickiebeth1: thank you Pauline... MountainMaMaDuke: take care all! Rossija: bye pdduke2003 left the room Fearless Leader: a quarter jar Fearless Leader: with an open side so you can see the quarters kittekattz: WOW ... that's gorgeous!! rjchase222: yes NJ how wld one use it as a pin? jude: Fingers there, no quarters! Humph! connie_flying: or as earrings? kittekattz: or a string of them as a necklace? marlea_anderson: maybe a hair clip Fearless Leader: dig Fearless Leader: two dimensional sheet jude: I've sliced off the bottom so they lay flat and then glue them to things. Fearless Leader: next to matching three dimensional flower mingapunga: have a good time, my bed is waiting, hope the avis I took will be fine, night rjchase222: maybe attach it to a flat piece of clay & then after cureing attach pin? mommaclara2001: You would have to cut the back off, wouldn't you? marlea_anderson: night- sleep tight mingapunga left the room rjchase222: yes some how u wld have to get the back side flat me thinks Fearless Leader: there's a pattern on the inside jude: Neat, NJ. rickiebeth1: if you use a pin back,,try to remember to also place a sall amount of the clay around the pin back, for better hold.. rickiebeth1: small amount.. Fearless Leader: When you practice your flowers and practice you must Fearless Leader: decorating a recycled jar is something to do with the flowers you make jude: I will press the pin back into the clay and then take it off. Cure the piece and then glue the pin down and put a strip of clay over it and cure again. marlea_anderson: still decorating mine rickiebeth1: Jude..perfect idea.. Fearless Leader: it's purely decorative, but it's a place to put a sampler of flowers, quick gift item kittekattz: great idea, though Fearless Leader: http://www.norajean.com/Jewelry/XmasDone-004.htm Fearless Leader: Here are some flower put onto pendants kittekattz: LOL ... but not a "quick gift" for those of us who haven't gotten the knack of this yet! vlady6us: bye all. ty norajean vlady6us: poof Fearless Leader: See ya vlady6us left the room mommaclara2001: Do you bake them first, and put them on the jar, or do you put them on the jar, and then bake? Fearless Leader: both marlea_anderson: i like the pendants a lot Fearless Leader: I'll have made flowers for demo, cured them Fearless Leader: laying about Fearless Leader: then I have left over cane that made the flowers so I press some slices to a sheet rickiebeth1: Good bye to you all.......I had a wonderful time watching and sending messages... Fearless Leader: got to do something with them. See ya Rickie Beth mommaclara2001: Where are the pendants? rjchase222: by rickiebeth Fearless Leader: in real life? kittekattz: bye Rickiebeth marlea_anderson: bye rickiebeth mommaclara2001: Bye Rickie beth Fearless Leader: where are the pendants in real life? or the link? Fearless Leader: http://www.norajean.com/Jewelry/XmasDone-004.htm rickiebeth1: I am really not good at leaving ...I need to go and take care of my husband..he has a bad stomach... mommaclara2001: The link. Rossija: bye mommaclara2001: Ok, thanks. Fearless Leader: That link there, #4 of Christmas done Fearless Leader: See ya Mary rickiebeth1: and he says....BYE !!! Hewatches when he can....he likes the demos... mommaclara2001: :)Ricckie Fearless Leader: we're closing up Rickie Beth, take care of Master Lawrence rickiebeth1: blessings to Everyone!!! Rossija: Thanks for the demo, NJ. See ya'll next week Fearless Leader: Next week is Christmas Fearless Leader: isn't it? mommaclara2001: Thank you Nora Jean. Rossija: well, yes.... rickiebeth1: yes, it is.. Fearless Leader: Christmas day or something like that? marlea_anderson: wow- it is rjchase222: Thanks for the rose demo NJ!!!!! And of course all the other parts of the demos!! Fearless Leader: don't know how many of you are Muslim, Jewish or Hindu Fearless Leader: but I'll log on Fearless Leader: see who's on connie_flying: I'll be here if you are rickiebeth1 left the room kittekattz: Thanks for the demo and for answering all my questions!! I need to get my kids in the tub ... then OFF TO BED! Rossija: so will I mommaclara2001: Goodnight all. rjchase222: I'll pop on to on Xmas day rjchase222: Nite to ya all!!!!!!!!!! Fearless Leader: Ok, we'll meet up for Christmas, Christmas eve too, I'm not planning anything Fearless Leader: my holidays are all done Rossija: Night, Razma mommaclara2001: Not me either. rjchase222: Nite Rossija!!! kittekattz: I'll try to check in on Christmas Day ... no promises, though Fearless Leader: last few minutes, any questions or need for links? rossija9 left the room Fearless Leader: or are we good to go? kittekattz: thank you for everything NJ ... this was fabulous! connie_flying: is there a way to make the rose into earrings? marlea_anderson: thanks gfor everything nj rjchase222: Thanks NJ jude: Great demo, NJ! Thanks! Fearless Leader: yes, Connie, stick it on something, a clip earring finding or stick a wire through it and put it on a pierced finding Fearless Leader: Good seeing you Jude, you came in for the rose, how trippy. kittekattz: I'm in such awe of your talent! connie_flying: of course Fearless Leader: Naw, no Awe, you can do it Fearless Leader: I'm just here to nudge connie_flying: thanks for the demo NJ kittekattz: ummm ... no I can't ... at least not YET! :-) rjchase222: kittekattz if I can get the dcf figured out then u to can do this! :) Fearless Leader: You're all very welcome, and be patient with your practice, it's not a race jude: I love your roses, NJ. :D mommaclara2001: Thank you. kittekattz: working my way up there ... albeit slowly, but making SOME progress!! LOL jude: Night all! Fearless Leader: there's no stop watch ticking, sneak up on it slowly connie_flying: bye for now jude: And, to all a good night! Fearless Leader: Nighty Nighty all rjchase222: just keep tryin kitte took me 3 months to get the dcf! connie_flying left the room Fearless Leader: I'm gonna bounce, feed James Fearless Leader: xoxo kittekattz: I haven't even tried that yet, Raz ... next year I really want to work with my clay more ... |
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