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Christmas Evening - Second Log - Sculpting a Man's Face and Color Cards Review |
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I didn't save at the top of the hour and all that was missed was roll call and some social chat. ++++++ jill_z_q: How as dinner Nancy? frogger70301: and we got to have a snowball fight! jill_z_q: sounds fun :) frogger70301: it was... jill_z_q: I went to my folks and they had some friends over jill_z_q: and my mom gave everyone a reading lol nancy: awesome...at cousins house..those who werent there got to talk to them on the phone nancy: except my cousin son who is in Iraq.. jill_z_q: we actually celebrate hanuakah but they were on vacaction during the time jill_z_q: that is too bad Nancy :( nancy: hes good..misses everyone and lovveess care packages..grin jill_z_q: I bet nancy: going ot make him grin...send him some of my favorite sunburn cure alix: I donated 200 min on my calling card to servicemen in Iraq ... Sam's Club project. frogger70301: oh, that sounds wonderful! Rossija: Dang, gotta get to bed before I fall face-down on the keyboard. Shannon (clayladyinred) joined the room hlynn1975: gotta go here too. Hope everyone has a good weekend. Fearless Leader: Sweet Dreams Mary jill_z_q: that wouldn't be good keyboards can hurt hlynn1975 left the room Shannon: hey! I just realized you all were here! Fearless Leader: and Heather Rossija: NJ, when are you starting tomorrow? Fearless Leader: LOL I sent out invites nancy: used it on him once when he was little...he was a sunburned puppy and it helped him jill_z_q: I was still here from before rofl Fearless Leader: Around Noon I reckon Rossija: Cool. I'll be back from after Christmas sales by then! Rossija: Goodnight all! Fearless Leader: LOL Ok Mary see you tomorrow, First Day of Kwanzaa miss_meme_30: nite Rossija: poof rossija9 left the room Fearless Leader: we might have a new person showing up Fearless Leader: she just added me to her Friend's list and I just sent her an invite dianemquinlan joined the room Shannon: cool! still here for a while NJ? You have invited dianemquinlan to view your webcam. frogger70301: Hiya, Diane! Shannon: hi Diane miss_meme_30: hiya diane! alix: Hi Diane Fearless Leader: Diane I just sent you an invite to the cam, I'm sculpting a man's face, God Willing jill_z_q: Howdy Diane Fearless Leader: Let's do a roll call for Diane so she comes to know who we are and where we're from, First name and Location Please Fearless Leader: NoraJean, San Francisco Shannon: <<--West Virginia frogger70301: Mitch, Louisiana meplus5kids: Jean in New Orleans Kat Indpls IN: Kat Indianapolis Indiaa alix: Alix Hickory NC Kat Indpls IN: Indiana jyladams: Jyl - Gig Harbor WA (western ie warm side) jill_z_q: Suzy in So Calif miss_meme_30: Missy VA nancy: nancy clatskanie, oregon.. dianemquinlan: Oh...I'm so excited to be here! I didn't realise a demo was in progress....hope I didn't interrupt anything. Hello to everyone! Fearless Leader: Oh Honey you're more than welcome Fearless Leader: we're friendly and very chatty so feel at home and Merry Christmas miss_meme_30: glad to have you join us diane miss_meme_30: we all have been late a time or two miss_meme_30: lol miss_meme_30: what do you like to do? vlady6us joined the room DTIntermart (dtintermart) joined the room miss_meme_30: hiya sandie vlady6us: hi missy miss_meme_30: hiya doug vlady6us: hi doug Fearless Leader: Ladies can you tell Diane how to do a save for Favorite room and to make sure her cam is "always on top"? Thanks Shannon: hi Vlady and Doug vlady6us: hi shannon dianemquinlan: Where is my cam? I don't see anything. Shannon: sure, click Chat at the top of your box, go down to Favorite Rooms, and click Add miss_meme_30: webcam always on top.....look at top of webcam viewer under the word webcam hit always on top DTIntermart: hi all!! vlady6us: hello doug Shannon: Diane, go to your friends list and click the link beside msatclayart to pull the cam up stargazer_sbpcg: Hi Doug! (*) vlady6us: hi jean vlady6us: hi nj alix: Got to run ...back muscles locking up LOL ... see everyone tomorrow vlady6us: hello everyone alixnc left the room stargazer_sbpcg: Hi Sandi! DTIntermart: wow Nj did not expectto find yu still on! have you eaten? miss_meme_30: she just came back from dinner with james miss_meme_30: i know she had chicken...lol Shannon: hey Missy! did you get my message on yahoo last night? miss_meme_30: no :( miss_meme_30: my daughter might have gotten it miss_meme_30: lol miss_meme_30: what did i miss? Shannon: ok... darn yahoo.... my daughter, Celeena, asked if Britney had got the note she wrote her in the package we sent? miss_meme_30: yes! dianemquinlan: OK, it says it's waiting for permission from msatclayart..... miss_meme_30: we are gettin thru the holidays and i think she is goin to try to write back! Shannon: oh great! I think Celeena was hoping she'd like to chat or email with her sometime :-) Shannon: ok! she'd love that! miss_meme_30: chat would be great! nancy: brb..gotta do something miss_meme_30: she is alien_brat92 miss_meme_30: lol Shannon: Diane.... are you on a slow connection? it might take a bit.... if not, close that and try again miss_meme_30: have to explain that one of these days miss_meme_30: lol vlady6us: oops. gotta get going. night poof vlady6us left the room jill_z_q: Oh I wanna to share with you a Yorkie Ornament I did custom order jill_z_q: check it ou t jill_z_q: http://home.earthlink.net/~srozman/DSCN5516.jpg Shannon: ok, Missy... I'll write that down... I forget exactly what hers is at the moment miss_meme_30: lol dianemquinlan: I have a DSL line but I'll close it and try again. frogger70301: That is so cute! You have invited dianemquinlan to view your webcam. Shannon: her email is lil_chubzy@charter.net, if she'd like to send her a note! miss_meme_30 left the room miss_meme_30 joined the room Shannon: ok, got it yet Diane? jill_z_q: didn't it turn out good Mitch? :) miss_meme_30: pop that link again please Fearless Leader: I sent Diane another invite to the cam, everyone in the chat room should be able to open cam jill_z_q: I wasn't sure if just my pain hazed or not lol jill_z_q: http://home.earthlink.net/~srozman/DSCN5516.jpg frogger70301: I think it's wonderful! Shannon: that's adorable Jill! dianemquinlan: It said network error while connecting to server. I'll keep trying. What is NJ doing?? Fearless Leader: I was getting the rough draft of this man's face. Is Diane having difficulty getting cam? jill_z_q: Thanks they are so fun to make miss_meme_30: adorable! Fearless Leader: odd, let me send you another invite to Cam miss_meme_30: did everyone see my bracelet? You have invited dianemquinlan to view your webcam. jill_z_q: is your firewall effecting the connection? Fearless Leader: Diane sent you another invite. Ya, Firewall, someone walk her though that please jill_z_q: I did, its really adorable bracelet jyladams: whT JUST happened? My web cam disappeared!! Jyl Shannon: dang, I'm not a firewall person.... miss_meme_30: me either jill_z_q: me either just that I use to get that message when I couldn't view the cam jill_z_q: but now I get prompt so I can say yes allow it Shannon: that's weird Jyl..... Diane is having trouble getting it up at all... maybe yahoo is being dumb again jyladams: Nevermind........... My fault! Shannon: LOL Fearless Leader: Diane is now off line Fearless Leader: and now back online jyladams: He really is very masculine isn't he? Fearless Leader: ok, now what makes him masculine? Shannon: Missy, did you get the email address for her that I sent before you got booted? miss_meme_30: no dang it Shannon: wider jaws? miss_meme_30: lol Fearless Leader: What differences in his face, even at this stage makes this a man's face? jyladams: brow and jaw line jill_z_q: That nose frogger70301: jaw and browline Shannon: ok, it's lil_chubzy@charter.net miss_meme_30: ty Fearless Leader: stronger jaw, stronger brow line. Because men have a stronger pre frontal lobe, their foreheads slope backwards Shannon: larger nose meplus5kids: Back again Shannon: yw Missy! jill_z_q: yw? miss_meme_30: your welcome Shannon: ahhhh.... they're more aerodynamic!!! LOL jill_z_q: ah jyladams: no boobs either I noticed miss_meme_30: lol Shannon: LOL meplus5kids: lol Shannon: especially on their face! at least not yet..... hehehe pasadena_cal: Hi doug jyladams: The tool you are using, like a paint brush with a firm butter tip? miss_meme_30: clay shaper pasadena_cal: They are talking about the differences in men!!! miss_meme_30: size 0 jyladams: rubber rubber! jill_z_q: this one is an enuch jill_z_q: blinks jyladams: an actual (for sale) tool? From where? Shannon: www.clayalley.com or www.polymerclayyourway.com meplus5kids: Clay Alley has them Shannon: they are group members, and will give a discount if you tell them you're in the group! miss_meme_30: i got mine at pcyour way miss_meme_30: lol dtintermart left the room jyladams: do they come in smaller sizes? DTIntermart (dtintermart) joined the room miss_meme_30: 0 is the smallest Fearless Leader: Welcome back Doug DTIntermart: hai again miss_meme_30: i think the largest is 6? DTIntermart: hi even miss_meme_30: wb Shannon: LOL DTIntermart: NJ have you eaten? meplus5kids: Hi Doug Fearless Leader: I'm stuffed like a goose, Doug Fearless Leader: helping Diane get back in jyladams: I have been using a rubber, dental gum stimulator stuck on the end of a toothpick... LOL DTIntermart: just making sure, this has been a long demo :) jyladams: I did not know somebody actually sold the things! LOL Shannon: hmmmmm.... first time I've heard of that tool LOL miss_meme_30: me too shannon....lol Shannon: oh yeah! I'd love to get a set of the tiny ones myself! jyladams: what is the clay tonight? Shannon: I'm not sure what type NJ is using... Fearless Leader: Questions? Fearless Leader: I'm trying to help Diane but she's not answering the IMs Shannon: Jyl wondered what type of clay you're using jill_z_q: premo I assume jyladams: which clay are you using? Fearless Leader: Premo. That's what I use Fearless Leader: I find that Kato clay is too firm for me Shannon: is the premo better than the sculpeyIII? I know it's made by the same people.... miss_meme_30: where can we find the white(softer) shapers? miss_meme_30: i DO NOT like S3! Fearless Leader: my hands hurt and I do everything to make my life easier, using the food processor, making sure the clay is warm and soft enough for the taffy pull. Kato and Fimo are both too hard for me. miss_meme_30: brittle Shannon: really? I got some fimo a while back, and it seemed soft compared to the sculpeyIII miss_meme_30: might have to check into gettin more premo Fearless Leader: I have other things to do with my hands other than wrestle hard clay. Now for folks who have hot hands, who live in hot areas, maybe the firmer clay would be good for you. miss_meme_30: i do love my kato jyladams: Are you just using the flesh color base and mixing raw umber acrylic for color? Shannon: Missy one of the two sellers on the list have those white tipped shapers miss_meme_30: did u get fimo soft? Shannon: I'm not sure Missy... it might have been miss_meme_30: will have to email rickie beth then jyladams: I do not know about kato miss_meme_30: fimo soft is just that...soft...lol Shannon: Jyl, I believe NJ mixes white and burnt umber for her skin miss_meme_30: yep i think she does roo miss_meme_30: too miss_meme_30: lol Shannon: oh ok.... that's probably what I got then.... Shannon: roo...LOL jyladams: does premo come in burnt umber, or does she use acrylic paint to tint with? miss_meme_30: hush woman miss_meme_30: lol Shannon: oh no, it's clay burnt umber miss_meme_30: comes in that color Fearless Leader: helping Diane again Shannon: hehehehe So sowwy! Shannon: ok NJ miss_meme_30: premo uses paint colors so that u can match them with paints too Fearless Leader: scrolling back, I never add paint to my clay Fearless Leader: I avoid buying additional supplies to keep my tutes accessable to poor folks miss_meme_30: me either too messy miss_meme_30: lol miss_meme_30: like me miss_meme_30: lol Shannon: and me ;-) jyladams: I have never seen premo in burnt umber, just basic flesh color. Can you tint it with acrylic paint? Fearless Leader: so I keep the color choice basic, tools just the most basic meplus5kids: and me! Fearless Leader: Burnt Umber is a color I've been buying with Premo for years Shannon: I don't think they carry it in a lot of stores.... I'm pretty sure one of the group sellers has it meplus5kids: I can't find Premo locally, I have to buy it on-line Shannon: NJ which of the ladies has premo? Fearless Leader: Get ahold of Karen at ClayAlley Fearless Leader: http://www.clayalley.com Fearless Leader: mention that you're a list member and if you buy pounds of clay you'll get a discount Fearless Leader: want to know the colors I always get? jyladams: I've ordered from Clayalley before - thanks guys! meplus5kids: yes jyladams: yes please Fearless Leader: Primary colors: Cadmium Red, Zinc Yellow, Cobalt Blue Fearless Leader: Black, white, pearl, translucent Fearless Leader: from there you can mix secondary colors or Orange, Green and Purple and control your hues jyladams: Since I have been working nights, I have missed your tutes - good to be back tonight Shannon: wonder how much shipping would be on a few lbs? DTIntermart: those cards are nice nj miss_meme_30: i think like 4 bucks but dont quote me Shannon: I don't quite understand what they are though Shannon: thanks Missy Fearless Leader: let me get you the link Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/ColorCard/MainGroup jyladams: I work in Quarter (1/48th) scale, so a little goes a really l l o o o n g way for me Shannon: thanks! miss_meme_30: that is how she mixes the colors miss_meme_30: so that she keeps up with all the colors Shannon: ok! Fearless Leader: Ok, let me tell you what different things are miss_meme_30: i need to do that for myself....lol Fearless Leader: that is blue out of the pack meplus5kids left the room Fearless Leader: the twisted line means blue and white mixed half and half dianemquinlan left the room dianemquinlan joined the room Fearless Leader: WOW Diane meplus5kids joined the room miss_meme_30: wb diane Fearless Leader: and Jean Fearless Leader: ok, to review miss_meme_30: and jean Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/ColorCard/MainGroup meplus5kids: Got kicked out AGAIN dianemquinlan: I'm back from outer space! Shannon: dang! Fearless Leader: Ok, Diane are you going to get cam from the Friend's list? Fearless Leader: click on my cam link from the Friend's list? dianemquinlan: Is that the chatters list? Shannon: yes Diane Shannon: your friends list.... not this particular group Shannon: the Main yahoo messenger window is what it is Fearless Leader: it's one way of getting the cam open, go to your Friend's list, the Yahoo Messenger's Friend's list that has all the people you've added, like me. Fearless Leader: by my name should be a live link, saying Christmas Open Cam or something Fearless Leader: if you right click on that, choose view webcam, that works for MAC users meplus5kids left the room meplus5kids joined the room Fearless Leader: Jean, glue that girl down meplus5kids: I sneezed and hit the key board that time Shannon: people come and go so quickly around here... to quote Dorothy LOL miss_meme_30: lol Shannon: LOL dianemquinlan: I was at that page...I wonder where it is now.... frogger70301: oh, wow... just realized the time... gotta get my butt to bed so I can get up early and hit WalMart! Fearless Leader: Ok, I'm going to walk through this color card. The far left is blue out of the pack, the twisted blue and white tells me the next ribbon is half blue and half white, that's the third from the left. With me so far? Fearless Leader: Sweet Dreams Mitch Shannon: nite Frogger! frogger70301: nite all... catch yall tyomorrow! meplus5kids: Night Frogger miss_meme_30: nite frogger70301: :-* jyladams: very clearly laid out - good job! frogger70301 left the room Fearless Leader: with me so far on this color card? Shannon: yep Fearless Leader: Now what does the twisted blue and yellow mean then? jyladams: green miss_meme_30: half half Fearless Leader: and that green is where? miss_meme_30: the bottom green Fearless Leader: to the right. Fearless Leader: Ok the little black heart and that dark bit means? Anyone? Shannon: you added a bit of black? jyladams: add a lil; dark bit and you get darker shade Fearless Leader: If we took blue and yellow, half and half, then added one portion of black that little ribbon is what we'll get Fearless Leader: and if we added a bit of white? Fearless Leader: we'd get that pastel green Fearless Leader: if we added a ration of black to that pastel green we get the green for olives in a martini pasadena_cal: The top green wide is the same shade (to my computer) as the bottom one. jyladams: k Fearless Leader: Now let's look at another color card and see if we can figure it out Shannon: me too Cal Fearless Leader: That's one ribbon, that's why pasadena_cal: OH Shannon: is that middle one a dark green or black? Fearless Leader: that middle bit was green from half yellow and half blue with one portion of black, it is on top of the basic green jyladams: very clear what makes up which pink Shannon: ok... I see now.... miss_meme_30: oic now! Fearless Leader: now, from the left is Cadmium Red out of the pack pasadena_cal: OK very little black makes very dark!!! Fearless Leader: twised with white, makes the third from the left the "basic" pink Shannon: when you say a "portion"... are you using the Half amount that you mixed previously? Fearless Leader: Two hearts is two portions of white and the circle is the resulting pink Shannon: if that made sense...?? Fearless Leader: equal portions Shannon: ok miss_meme_30: largest settin on the pm? Fearless Leader: to get a really pale pink we need one portion of red and three portions of white miss_meme_30: the cut out hearts that is Fearless Leader: The thickness on this card is not important. The thickness of the portions you're mixing should be standard, how ever thick it is miss_meme_30: ty Fearless Leader: we want to have a basic measure, so just be consistant with yourself, if you use the thickest setting, always use the thickest setting. If you use the narrowest, always use that so you can know what the ratios are. Fearless Leader: ok, so the twisted rope of Cadmium Red and Zinc Yellow is this one Fearless Leader: the ribbon next to it is the resulting orange Fearless Leader: adding one white portion to that, is the lowest circle Shargoose=Sharon V in TN (shargoose) joined the room Shannon: hi Sharon! Fearless Leader: adding two portions of white is the middle circle Shargoose=Sharon V in TN: Hi Fearless Leader: Merry Christmas Sharon! Shargoose=Sharon V in TN: Merry Christmas to you NJ miss_meme_30: hi sharon Shargoose=Sharon V in TN: Just popped in for a few Fearless Leader: Ok, now here's something different. What if we took a pale orange and mixed pink with it? Shargoose=Sharon V in TN: Hubby and I have bad colds:( Fearless Leader: it's a peach color Fearless Leader: I'm sorry you're not feeling well. Shim Poi Poi miss_meme_30: so pale orange and pink=peach Shannon: awwwww ((((Hugggg))))) Shargoose=Sharon V in TN: Thank you , sniffle sniffle, hack wheeze miss_meme_30: kewl miss_meme_30: ewwwww sharon....now i have ur germs....LOL Fearless Leader: Now red and blue twisted rope gives us a very dark purple, miss_meme_30: looks black miss_meme_30: lol Shargoose=Sharon V in TN: Whatcha doin' Kat? Fearless Leader: with one heart of white, one portion of white, we get a lighter purple, two portions of white a dark lavender, three portions of white a pale lavander Fearless Leader: Ok, what if we mixed gold, silver and copper to the primary colors of red, blue and yellow? Fearless Leader: what if? Shargoose=Sharon V in TN: Pearl colors miss_meme_30: i have no idea Shargoose=Sharon V in TN: Added sparkle Shargoose=Sharon V in TN: Sparklies miss_meme_30: wow i like those Shargoose=Sharon V in TN: I love sparklies Fearless Leader: nifty Shannon: ooooohhh aaaahhhhh dianemquinlan: don't know...your descriptions are good.....I feel like I can almost see them Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/ColorCard/MainGroup Fearless Leader: That will help you Diane Fearless Leader: all these are in that portion of the site Shannon: I'm getting screenshots as you point too NJ, that should help as she goes through the log dianemquinlan: thanks NJ Fearless Leader: so, zinc yellow with pearl, gets you a yellow that will pop, yellow out of the pack is translucent and disappears between dark green, don't make that miscalculation Fearless Leader: everyone does Fearless Leader: add gold to that, more gold and more gold, keep track of what you get this way pasadena_cal: Can you go back to the red card. The 4th bar you said was a light orange. How did you get to that color? Fearless Leader: belay that, more yellow to gold I mean Fearless Leader: let me see if another lighting setting works better Fearless Leader: that's better Shargoose=Sharon V in TN: Much better lighting Fearless Leader: it's a pedantic way of working through the colors, step by step Fearless Leader: starting with primary colors of red, blue and yellow pasadena_cal: At the bottom you have one heart on the bar. Does that mean you added 1 part of white to the left bar? Fearless Leader: adding white, black, pearl, gold Fearless Leader: yes, Cal, you got it Fearless Leader: and two hearts mean? pasadena_cal: double the white fun Fearless Leader: LOL Fearless Leader: I love you Fearless Leader: LOL dianemquinlan: two parts of white! Fearless Leader: Atta Girl, Diane Fearless Leader: even without the Cam Shargoose=Sharon V in TN: You all have a great Christmas night Shargoose=Sharon V in TN: Taking my achey body to bed dianemquinlan: I have a vivid imagination.... Fearless Leader: Feel better Sharon and Stu too Shargoose=Sharon V in TN: Love you all Shannon: you too Sharon! nite! feel better! Fearless Leader: Ok, now here's another card miss_meme_30: nite shargoose left the room miss_meme_30 left the room dianemquinlan: you, too Sharon....goodnight Shannon: Zowie!!! now that's a color card!!! miss_meme_30 joined the room Fearless Leader: taking primary and secondary colors and mixing pearl, gold or silver with those colors miss_meme_30: now its gettin confusing miss_meme_30: lol pasadena_cal: Oh my Fearless Leader: ok, now dig, keep track of your blends this way too miss_meme_30: my mind doesnt work well at night Fearless Leader: if you twist a blend you get a nice sea shell Fearless Leader: ok, what if you need brown and don't have brown? What do you do? Shannon: red and blue? Fearless Leader: you can mix the primary colors to make a brown, that's what jyladams: red & Green pasadena_cal: Red yellow with a pinch of blue Shannon: what color are the top hearts? Fearless Leader: all primary colors put together get a brown, if you add translucent to it, or pearl, or white, you can alter that home made brown Fearless Leader: translucent bits Shannon: ahhh Fearless Leader: Now what if you needed some obscure color, like Fushia? miss_meme_30: well guys its 12:15 am here....gotta get up for church in the morn...nite all hope to see ya here tomorrow!!!!! Fearless Leader: and you tried this and that, how do you keep track? Shannon: nite Missy! Fearless Leader: Nighty Night Missy miss_meme_30: thanks for the demo nj pasadena_cal: Go to the color mix site Shannon: LOL Fearless Leader: the primary colors are on the upper edge Fearless Leader: that was for the photo calibration Fearless Leader: and that pile of dots and leaves and lines are the experiment of Fushia Fearless Leader: like a flow chart, sort of Shannon: can you show us the order you went in? jyladams: gotta hit the hay too - what time tomorrow? Fearless Leader: Noon Tomorrow honey Shannon: nite Jyl Fearless Leader: which order. Gosh jyladams: thanks so much - it was so good to see everybody and I always learns so much! Fearless Leader: I started with one portion of red, then 7 portions of pearl, then three portions of purple Shannon: well, I mean, did you mix the basics first, and go from there? jyladams left the room Fearless Leader: then I branched off and tried different combinations dianemquinlan: I'm signing off too....I'll try this again tomorrow at Noon! Hopefully, I can get to the cam thn. Thanks for pulling me in NJ. Merry Christmas to all and to all a Good Night. Shannon: nite Diane! Fearless Leader: Merry Christmas Diane and check out firewall issues Fearless Leader: that might be the boggle dianemquinlan: will do Fearless Leader: good, see you tomorrow and hopefully you'll see me too Shannon: ok, so when looking at the pic, the bottom right color is red... it looks sort of orangey to me... gotcha Fearless Leader: Now if all y'all are interested in making color cards we can devote a demo to that Fearless Leader: Cadmium Red is warm in tone Shannon: oh ok.... Fearless Leader: Here is mixing pearl with copper on the left Fearless Leader: making a green with blue and GOLD Fearless Leader: Gold can stand in for Yellow, Copper can stand in for Red, Silver can stand in for Blue Shannon: that's a good thing to know Fearless Leader: and you can do the same steps in seeing what mixes you can get substituting these metal colors for the primary colors. It's not going to look the same, it's just a different color equation. Fearless Leader: Yikes I better save log Fearless Leader: brb |
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