DemoLog-004: Start and finish of with the third Inro of the day. Basic Basket Weave with Gold, Pearl and Black. |
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auntyalias: I'll be doing a third
Inro auntyalias: for those who just got here auntyalias: it takes hours, mind you, since Noon we've only got these two done patab12000: yea, i missed so much getting bumped off merrie60us left the room auntyalias: so if you got the time, I'm going to do another one, ironing out the wrinkles out of this technique merrie60us joined the room auntyalias: Merrie, you got the time to see another one of these done? jude: Great, NJ! merrie60us: you bet merrie60us: thanks jude: I've cleared the decks and can stick around this time. auntyalias: Ok, let's see a show of fingertips, who's up for another one? jude: Me, me, me! merrie60us: me me me patab12000: me too jude: GMTA, Merrie. LOL! jakmiami: as loong as my eyes hold out auntyalias: You're being a trooper Judith, since your heart is in sculpting auntyalias: LOL jude: I know it's getting late for some folks, too. jakmiami: no no, at least this will give me something to do with the basketweave stuff you showed me auntyalias: ok, let's do a quick basket weave with this metal colored clay I used for this Inro on the left auntyalias: Exactly auntyalias: The colors are faye_shelton: i'm not going to be around for the whole thing, since I gotta get up at 5 and it's 10:20, but i'll be here awhile auntyalias: How much did you see, maybe you saw the ending but not the beginning auntyalias: Faye auntyalias: like a movie...oh this is where I came in sort of deal auntyalias: Ok, the colors are auntyalias: black, pearl, gold, silver and copper faye_shelton: yes, so I can fill in the blanks auntyalias: First we'll make the inside, and there's a tute for that already auntyalias: Biz-Archive/Japan/Inro-GoldCrimson/Inside.htm auntyalias: When the first and second curing are taking place we'll do a basket weave and press a sheet for the outside decorative cover auntyalias: the inside will be copper auntyalias: just because I have a lot of it laying about auntyalias: and so does someone else too, but I forgot who auntyalias: LOL auntyalias: here we go, check the tute if you've not done so yet auntyalias: Oh let me heat up a cup of coffee and I'll start on the inside tube auntyalias: I just tore out this toilet paper roller out of a fresh roll auntyalias: the only one I had was getting a bit beat up auntyalias: now the family is going to pick up the roll of toilet paper and wonder where the roll went, or rather know where the roll went auntyalias: only in the home of a clayer, I tell ya auntyalias: LOL jude: LOL auntyalias: ok, what did I just do? auntyalias: surrounded the tube, took the surround sheet off to merge the seam on both sides merrie60us: wrapped the clay around the toilet roll auntyalias: put the surround sheet back on the tube auntyalias: then auntyalias: I made sure that the tube was dusted so it'll move in there auntyalias: overlapped the very end of the clay over the tube auntyalias: that's because that's going to stick on this sheet here on the tile auntyalias: when we make an overlap over the rim auntyalias: that's the stick-em clay area that will adhere to the sheet merrie60us: You know if the tube gets stuck you can just soak it off with water auntyalias: you take the tube and lift it and tap it down a coule of times auntyalias: Oh we ain't even going there, Merrie, all this is to prevent the tube from sticking because I have the tube in and out of these compartments like a broke relative merrie60us: auntyalias: so tap the end of the tube on the overlapped clay and tap it down on this sheet auntyalias: so let's cut off the excess and smooth the seam it makes lommomy left the room lommomy joined the room auntyalias: also note, I dusted the tile before I did that tippy tap down with the roller auntyalias: that's so it won't stick to the tile lommomy: Hi, looks like I am starting at the beginning again, Now I won't miss anything. I finished reading what I missed. Boy you have been working tonight NJ. auntyalias: Ya, I'm working on our third effort auntyalias: before I cure this tube I'm going to pre-cut it. I found that cutting it after curing could cause it to break lommomy: Are you happy how the lid came out on the 2nd one? auntyalias: Oh very auntyalias: did you get to see? lommomy: looks great lommomy: looks like shorter overlay than the frist one merrie60us: so one piece has a longer inside and one has a shorter inside so they will fit together auntyalias: well they are really the same length auntyalias: to get that over lapping effect auntyalias: we cover the inside with foil auntyalias: where we don't want the outside to stick and we cut way high on that foil auntyalias: and then remove the foil after the final curing, let's get this in the oven and cure it and then I'll be able to show you what I mean lommomy: ok auntyalias: before we put a second sheet on auntyalias: we've made three compartments and a lid auntyalias: we don't want the compartments to stick to each other so we put foil between them lommomy: what happens to the foil above the cut where you do want the clay to stick? auntyalias: so it is three solid colored compartments, with foil on their bottom or on the inside of the lid auntyalias: not much goes above the cut auntyalias: when you cover the bottoms of the compartments, and stack them auntyalias: you have a pretty good idea how far up the foil goes auntyalias: when you cut through the second sheet of raw clay lommomy: yes auntyalias: you can hear the crunching of the foil auntyalias: you can see it auntyalias: you put it there so you'll know how far up you can cut auntyalias: if any goes up further than the cut, it's just going to be a finger nail's shaving worth auntyalias: and you can pull it out auntyalias: it won't make any difference lommomy: ok auntyalias: you're cutting through the second sheet, you can hear, feel and see the foil auntyalias: the inside is cured so you're not going any further than the raw clay to the foil auntyalias: that's the pre-cure cut lommomy: ok auntyalias: then don't do anything, don't try to separate them to check auntyalias: I goofed up good doing that lommomy: lol auntyalias: hand to fiddle with the foil for an hour to get it back on right auntyalias: so cover with foil where you don't want the second sheet to stick auntyalias: cut the second sheet down to the foil layer auntyalias: cure auntyalias: and then you let it cool some and then separate, get rid of all the foil protection auntyalias: and stack it up again for the final cooling auntyalias: it's three curings auntyalias: this one will give us three rings and a top auntyalias: we have to put bottoms on those three rings auntyalias: maybe we'll put a rim on the inside of the lid this time auntyalias: instead of putting a rim on the inside of the first compartment auntyalias: just to see if that's easier auntyalias: we got to cure them auntyalias: then we foil auntyalias: then we cover with a second sheet, that's the basket weave we'll make during the second curing auntyalias: follow me so far? auntyalias: LOL merrie60us: I am going to have to go it is 11 here and I have to get up early for work. sorry and thanks so much. I will check the tut lommomy: ok auntyalias: See you Merrie lommomy: bye merrie60us left the room auntyalias: now I don't think we have screen shots for the foil fiddling yet auntyalias: are there any questions since we are waiting for this curing to finish? auntyalias: I'm going to sip my coffee jakmiami: i'm not getting good enough pictures to do the screen shots, sorry auntyalias: I think the foil fiddling got to get digi pix, it's one of those labor intensive things, bits of tape and all that patab12000: i take my caffine cold, need to get some ice tea if i'm going to stay awake auntyalias: get some Ice Tea, Pat auntyalias: we got a few minutes, and then I'm going to do some basic basket weave lommomy: NJ I found a polymer box in Bead and Button of feb 01 I would like to show you auntyalias: what's the link honey? lommomy: I will put it on my web cam auntyalias: ok, let's see lommomy: it is in a Mag. that I borrowed auntyalias: Oh Lisa, that's trippy auntyalias: I'm waiting for folks to utilize Jim Collins printables and clay faye_shelton: cool, Lisa auntyalias: this pattern is very easy auntyalias: how does it keep its shape while curing? auntyalias: any word on that? auntyalias: and is it hinged? lommomy: sorry I have to put the cam down to type jakmiami: NJ, just tried taking a shot and then fiddling with it afterwards to adjust the lighting. this seems to work okay so i will try the screen shots for you. will probably be tomorrow though before i can work on them. okay? auntyalias: Ok Judith, thanks honey lommomy: it has a cloth backing auntyalias: Tube hinges are in Sue Heaser's miniature book lommomy: glued on with tls auntyalias: interesting auntyalias: multi media sort of deal there lommomy: Can I send you the directions? auntyalias: I'll get a copy of the magazine auntyalias: I live next to a University and I'm sure its there lommomy: some one said hing look I found a neat hinge to make Davester (biodredd) joined the room auntyalias: bent wire? auntyalias: Hey Dave Davester: Hey NJ! Davester: How goes this thing called claying? auntyalias: Sue's is tube beads, basically with wire run through them auntyalias: we're making interlocking stacking Japanese boxes called Inro, tute on my home page Davester: I will check it out. lommomy: will those hinges work out? Davester: I'm trying to get a new kitty adjusted the rest of the cats. auntyalias: Lisa those hinges seem a bit "heavy" for clay work auntyalias: they will work auntyalias: but they seem a bit bulky, ya know? auntyalias: and if they have straight wires, they can pull out lommomy: it uses 22 g wire auntyalias: Dave, where's the kitty? lommomy: bend the ends auntyalias: ah, kitty head auntyalias: meow meow auntyalias: ya, I'd bend the ends on the wire Davester: That is Bawls. auntyalias: boy cat? lommomy: I guess you can use thinner wire Davester: yes Davester: he got the name because he always cries for attention. lommomy: I just borrowed the mag. this week end and found these, I havn't tryed them You are in "*g.MSATClayArt:1" ( ) auntyalias: my turn to get bumped jakmiami left the room jakmiami joined the room lommomy: back auntyalias: did we all get bumped at the same time? auntyalias: I just got back myself jakmiami: think so lommomy: no I had to help hubby with the pool lommomy: when you got bumped I cleared your cam and waited till you got back shargoose: Sent you an email NJ shargoose: Got the photos up on Epson auntyalias: Bless your heart, Sharon shargoose: Aw shucks, twern't nothin auntyalias: Send me a little picture to put with your link for my site auntyalias: everyone has a little picture or logo with their link shargoose: at your email addy? auntyalias: sure, that'll work shargoose: k I'll do it later auntyalias: let me check these pix right quick shargoose: k wi1dangl left the room ondoa12002 joined the room ondoa12002: Hi, all shargoose: Hi patab12000: hi auntyalias: http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4206562&a=31309216&f= shargoose: NJ's just checking some pics I took earlier auntyalias: Here's the 35 pictures Shargoose/SharonV got up for us, it's the Gold and Crimson Inro auntyalias: and there's pictures of the foil work we have to do for the interlocking sections auntyalias: Pascal? Is that you? ondoa12002: i just woke up and thought i take a look, it has been a long time since jakmiami: does that mean you've got enough shots? auntyalias: it's in the middle of the night for you honey. Doing Inro boxes, tute on my home page auntyalias: Oh Sharon only used part of the pictures she took ondoa12002: what do you call inro box ? auntyalias: but the foil taping business is there and that's what we have to do after we put bottoms on these rings auntyalias: It's what men in Old Time Japan used instead of pockets ondoa12002: okay auntyalias: to keep coins, snuff or tobacco, ink and water and brush, or stuff like that auntyalias: hang them from their belts and those were anchored with Netsuke auntyalias: which we will do probably next Thursday auntyalias: miniature sculptures that are made into beads auntyalias: we're doing Asian Theme Month so since I'm half Japanese we start with what I do know auntyalias: move on to what I don't know nothing about auntyalias: LOL ondoa12002: you enjoyed your trip i see auntyalias: Oh yes shargoose: If I made an Inro big enough for my stuff it would take 40 lbs of clay auntyalias: to the Museum, saw a ton of examples of Inro auntyalias: LOL, Sharon I can totally relate shargoose: I use a small suitcase as it is now!! auntyalias: but this size we're doing here, it's pretty normal size, those tiny ones, like match boxes, are not useful, unless the only thing you're transporting are matches shargoose: or pills auntyalias: or crack auntyalias: LOL auntyalias: let me sent the invite to this album to the list, auntyalias: brb auntyalias: and then we put bottoms on these rings shargoose: No I ment RX type pills ondoa12002: patab12000: 4 out of three people havr problems with fractions shargoose: Pascal, NJ put up some places to go and see these Inro shargoose: They are absolutely gorgeous sylsnovelties joined the room faye_shelton: Well, folks, I'm falling out of my chair, so I'll say good night, and Thanks tons, NJ. I'm going to make one! sylsnovelties: Nite Faye! shargoose: night Faye auntyalias: See you Faye, good to have you hang out so long lommomy: nite nite faye_shelton: nite, Ya'll faye_shelton left the room greatauntjudy left the room jude (greatauntjudy) joined the room shargoose: Hey there Jude ondoa12002: on the Website ? auntyalias: Ok, now did everyone see the pix SharonV got of the first inro effort? jude: Mumble, mumble, mumble. shargoose: In the email on MSAT Clay group, Pascal auntyalias: http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4206562&a=31309216&f= lommomy: ondoa12002: will ake a look sylsnovelties: I didn't but checking it now. auntyalias: let's take a few minutes for those who are just getting here to review this album auntyalias: and then I'll put bottoms on these three rings sylsnovelties: Thanks NJ auntyalias: it'll save me a HEAP of typing, you're very welcome Syl auntyalias: I always cure the clay at the manufacture's suggested half hour auntyalias: 265F/130C jakmiami: looking now auntyalias: each time I cure it's the same temp, same amount of time, I'm going to check that album too auntyalias: brb auntyalias: Here is the album that shows how to do the inner part of the Inro auntyalias: http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4206562&a=31309216&f= auntyalias: and the pictures SharonV caught is covering the inner part after we put bottoms on the rings auntyalias: Biz-Archive/Japan/Inro-GoldCrimson/Inside.htm auntyalias: Here's the first Inro inside I did this morning jakmiami: NJ, my eyes have had it. i'll sort thru the shots I got tomorrow; don't know if there's anything new. 'night all jakmiami: NJ, my eyes have had it. i'll sort thru the shots I got tomorrow; don't know if there's anything new. 'night all auntyalias: I'm going to put bottoms on these rings auntyalias: Thanks Judith jakmiami left the room auntyalias: Let me know when you've reviewed the pictures and we'll move forward auntyalias: who's ready? sylsnovelties: I'm ready lommomy: yup techi_mom56 joined the room shargoose: I'm here jude: I'm ready. patab12000: I'm ready, I saw the end (mosy) so when you show putting on the bottom, then I'm going to bed patab12000: mostly patab12000: well, I'm falling a sleep here patab12000: ya techi_mom56 left the room patab12000: is that tls? auntyalias: yes, for the inner rim on the lid auntyalias: this is an experiment auntyalias: so the lid will have a ridge that goes inside the upper compartment lommomy: transparent liquid sculpey clay lommomy: tls patab12000: what about the bottoms? do you have any problem with raw clay sticking to cured? shargoose: Not with TLS sylsnovelties left the room shargoose: Lots of times I add raw clay to baked with no problem even without TLS sylsnovelties joined the room auntyalias: I only used TLS for the lid jude: Shall we start a pool to see who gets dumped next? auntyalias: I mashed and smeared the edges for the bottoms sylsnovelties: heeheehee auntyalias: but I didn't have a lot of room inside the lid to do that auntyalias: now I'll cure these auntyalias: and while they are curing let's do a quick basic basket weave auntyalias: brb patab12000: I'm going to bed now. Thanks, I'm going to try one of these when I have time this week end. I will also upload a pic of my first human figure shargoose: Love to see it. Nite lommomy: nite nite patab12000: bye patab12000 left the room shargoose: so is that stack pearl, gold, pearl, gold then black? auntyalias: gold, pearl, gold, black shargoose: ok ondoa12002: i only see shadows, is it the camera or is it me ? shargoose: It's kinda dark sylsnovelties: same here. ondoa12002: okay, so its not me shargoose: She works so fast its all a blur auntyalias: I'm stretching this out so it's at least 6 inches ondoa12002: very good auntyalias: easier to cut sections when it's an even number sylsnovelties: me too. shargoose: so that's five stacks? shargoose: no six shargoose: I ment two stacks of three each!! shargoose: Yup shargoose: Someday I'll learn to count! sylsnovelties: shargoose: Thanks shargoose: Thirds I think shargoose: Don't ask me I can't count auntyalias: ok sylsnovelties: I worry about that too! auntyalias: now I have 6 sections and I'm going to place them so they make V's auntyalias: then I'm cutting off the corners of one side auntyalias: and transfering them to the stair steps of the other side sylsnovelties: Oh, I remember that now. auntyalias: Then I'll cut off the point at the top and transfer it to the triangle space on the bottom and we'll have a square cane of basket weave auntyalias: ya, That's the one, Syl ondoa12002: looks so simple when YOU make it shargoose: Very pretty shargoose: I like the combo of colors shargoose: She is so good at reducing stuff sylsnovelties: Yes, she is. auntyalias: I want it reduced enough so I can get a couple of slices off of it to press to a sheet auntyalias: the lines most likely won't stay straight. In order to get thin straight lines I'd press the colored sheets together auntyalias: and then stack auntyalias: so I wouldn't have to reduce them so much auntyalias: ah, there's the timer, brb Klew (klew911) joined the room auntyalias: I'm putting in the toilet paper roller in the compartments so they will have a form while they cool auntyalias: While they cool I'll slice some of this basket weave and press it to a sheet ondoa12002: thats what i id with the leaf cane, it came out distorted . Why? Klew: your slice could have been too thick ondoa12002: or both auntyalias: Slice thin, pre press the leaf if it is thick auntyalias: then press going in one direction ondoa12002: what setting auntyalias: then turn the sheet, narrow the rollers and press going in another direction auntyalias: first at the widest auntyalias: then turn the sheet, narrow one setting auntyalias: press, turn, narrow auntyalias: and if there is still distrotion then pull your sheet auntyalias: like raw Pizza dough ondoa12002: thats the hick, it did not change direction, thanks auntyalias: When you have a stubby cane like this and you want to slice as many slices as possible ondoa12002: so by now i have feathers auntyalias: put it against a block of clay to hold it steady sylsnovelties: I did that and had a mess. shargoose: I'm getting tired. Saved a log and will email it NJ shargoose: Have another ton of pics but will wait til tomarrow to go through them shargoose: Goodnight all!! lommomy: nite nite Klew: nite sylsnovelties: Nite! shargoose left the room sylsnovelties: That looks great! lommomy: Klew: nice job NJ! Klew: practice is the key! sylsnovelties: I end up with a lot of clay for chop n toss. heeheehee Klew: lommomy: auntyalias: Ok, now that's the sheet we're going to cover our compartments, but we got to put foil on the compartments where we don't want this to stick Klew: NJ can parchment paper be used too? Klew: lommomy: ondoa12002: its gonne be very late night over there '? auntyalias: Parchment paper can be used, but most folks have aluminum foil hanging around the kitchen Klew: oic auntyalias: and I limit myself to things folks will most likely find around the home Klew: auntyalias: I'm going to put a bit of foil around the rim on the lid auntyalias: so it doesn't stick to the inside of the upper compartment auntyalias: then I'm going to put foil on the bottom of the first and second bottom and leave the very bottom alone Klew: has anyone tried the "resist" by Kato? Its great! lommomy: ?? auntyalias: for those who haven't seen the screen shots of putting the foil on, check this next link ondoa12002: whats that ? Klew: it keeps two layers from baking together Klew: its aliquid ondoa12002: foil? ondoa12002: sorry auntyalias: http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4206562&a=31309216&f= Klew: np auntyalias: Pascale ondoa12002: yes? auntyalias: the second sheet will overlap these compartments stacked here auntyalias: we want it to stick to some part and not stick to the part that makes our interlocking boxes ondoa12002: i don't see very much you know, its to dark auntyalias: so I'm going to do that foil trick on these stacked boxes before putting on the second sheet of that basket weave we just did auntyalias: check your settings to see if you got it as light as you can get it and I'll make effort to get more light here too jude: I have got to go. I'm really dragging here. Night all! Klew: nite sylsnovelties: Nite Jude! auntyalias: Nighty Night Jude ondoa12002: its better now NJ lommomy: Nite Nite ondoa12002: does the foil not distord the new caly when you put it away, or do you cure it first ? auntyalias: we just cured these sections and they are cool enough to put the foil on them ondoa12002: thats okay, but do you cure them again with the basket weave on it before you get the foil off? ondoa12002: i'm in advance i know , but i will ahve to prepare children for school, so i might miss the next step auntyalias: After I get the foil on them, I stack them and cover with the basket weave auntyalias: before curing it again I slice the raw basket weave auntyalias: until I can see, hear and feel the foil under my blade auntyalias: that's a pre-cure cut auntyalias: then I cure it auntyalias: when it cools I just have to separate the sections where I already cut it auntyalias: since the basket weave is raw auntyalias: and the inside is cured auntyalias: cutting it before curing is easiest ondoa12002: okay, be back soon auntyalias: when it is all separated then I take the foil off auntyalias: ok, honey auntyalias: Now we will cover this with that basket weave sheet sylsnovelties: Sounds good. auntyalias: and we will cut that raw basket weave sheet towards the top of the foil we see there auntyalias: we have to remember how high up our foil goes, but you can hear it, see it through the clay and feel it on your blade, so you'll know auntyalias: the leaning tower of Inro auntyalias: don't ask me how it got tilted like that sylsnovelties: heeheehee auntyalias: but anyway, I'm going to do the pre-cure cuts, going through the raw basket weave down to the foil, leaning or not auntyalias: LOL lommomy: did one of the layers lift up a little? Klew: auntyalias: Syl, you should have been here when I was cutting a black inside tube auntyalias: it broke right in front of a half dozen claymates auntyalias: had to start all over greatauntjudy left the room auntyalias: but this is an experiment, so I'm not tripping Klew: it give the idea no doubt NJ good job sylsnovelties: Oh bummer! auntyalias: now as tempting as it is to lift the lid to see, don't auntyalias: getting the foil out of place at this point is a big fat pain in the butt sylsnovelties: I love the look of this. sylsnovelties: Yes, that is nice. auntyalias: now that we have the pre-cure cuts done, it's time to cure this again lommomy: NJ, it 1:40 here in New Jersey and I am going to hit the hey, Thank you, Lisa lommomy: Nite Nite auntyalias: Nighty Night Lisa lommomy left the room auntyalias: so when this is cured and cooled auntyalias: it gets opened up auntyalias: and all that foil and masking tape is removed auntyalias: then you stack them up again auntyalias: what we didn't do today on any of these craftingclay joined the room auntyalias: is to put tubes down the sides, where cords can be run though so they can hang off of something craftingclay: ooops the lighting shut me off auntyalias: does anyone know of any other tute that deals with interlocking compartments like this auntyalias: Watch out if you have lightening auntyalias: you can get hurt through your computer auntyalias: if it gets too close, shut down and UNPLUG your computer Klew: really, didnt know that! craftingclay: can i catch up tomorrow at your site nj auntyalias: Yes you can honey Klew: gona turn in nj thanks auntyalias: best go if there's thunder and lightening auntyalias: Ok, Klewie, and by the way craftingclay: thanks i'm going now night Klew: yes auntyalias: not only computer, but phone also, during lightening craftingclay left the room Klew: humm auntyalias: they act like conductors and folks have died because of it auntyalias: so when there's lightening auntyalias: turn off and unplug Klew: we get alot of that round here I will keep that in mind, thanks! auntyalias: you take care now, always glad to have you drop in Klew: take care auntyalias: will do klew911 left the room auntyalias: So Syl you're still here with me auntyalias: we'll hang out until it comes out of the oven and you can see the foil taken off auntyalias: and it restacked, it's an impossible thing to really explain in text and still pictures only sylsnovelties: Yup, I'm here. auntyalias: Pascal is getting her kids ready for school, so she'll be in and out I'm sure sylsnovelties: Ok, I'll hang around. auntyalias: not often I'm doing a late night, huh? sylsnovelties: Really! auntyalias: but these stacking compartments are so trippy auntyalias: they aren't beginner's stuff, and that's ok, we need something new now and then auntyalias: for the intermediate and advanced clayers sylsnovelties: I really love the looks of them. auntyalias: I'm glad Jude saw a lot of it, I thought she might take advantage of this technique auntyalias: me too auntyalias: I'm really happy with them sylsnovelties: They look really good. sylsnovelties: It's something way different! auntyalias: ya, way different for sure auntyalias: and I don't think any of the other polymer clayers who are doing hanging vessels have done this, I'm going to take a quick look at the links I put on the page to see sylsnovelties: ok auntyalias: Biz-Archive/Japan/Netsuke-Inro.htm auntyalias: down at the bottom are clayer's links who have done things like this auntyalias: I didn't really take a close look at them auntyalias: LOL auntyalias: brb auntyalias: http://www.pbase.com/image/345012 auntyalias: stargazer did, but no tute ondoa12002: i'm back auntyalias: it's in the oven, this last one with the basket weave cover ondoa12002: okay auntyalias: I'm looking at the polymer clay boxes that's on that page there, the last link sylsnovelties: Yeah, I am checking them too. ondoa12002: its gonna be late for you, so feel free to stop when you want to. My day ist just beginning, but not yours auntyalias: after I take the foil off of this box in the oven then I'll be done sylsnovelties: They are really nice boxes. I like the looks of them. auntyalias: so I'll be here until then ondoa12002: what i wanted to know, are these vessels strong enough to carry something ? Wearable ? auntyalias: I think the ones that are match box size are wearable, but how much can you hold in them? Not much. Mine are closer to the size that men used to wear in Ancient Japan, instead of having pockets. Now how sturdy mine will be? I don't know auntyalias: what I wanted to do is get more than one compartment auntyalias: two, three and work up to five sections auntyalias: that all nestle into one another auntyalias: all the ones on the links, they have the interlocking effect, but usually just one compartment auntyalias: which is ok auntyalias: but traditional Inro had many compartments, some to hold water for blocked ink and brushes that were in other compartments sylsnovelties: Very neat. auntyalias: these are ok also for desk top use auntyalias: put paper clips and stuff in them ondoa12002: sections that you could take off, or fixed ones? auntyalias: these stacking sections are kept together with tubes that have cord running through them, for they were meant to be hung off of a belt auntyalias: and held in place with a miniature sculpture auntyalias: usually matching in design with what's on the box ondoa12002: thers no limit................. sylsnovelties: You got that right!! ondoa12002: turned out nice ondoa12002: now your taking the foil off when its still warm? auntyalias: yes, I usually can't wait until it cools off completely auntyalias: LOL auntyalias: I'm always fussing with these things while they are like hot potatoes auntyalias: hot hot owie owie auntyalias: blowing on my fingertips sylsnovelties: heeheehee auntyalias: so far I think we're the only ones who have done more than one compartment auntyalias: I've only seen those with tops and bottoms and then that's it auntyalias: there's these stacking ceramic bowls, like these in some way, straight sides auntyalias: the bottom you put fish, for fish swim under the water auntyalias: the middle you put beef or pork auntyalias: for they walk on the earth auntyalias: on the top you put duck, for they fly sylsnovelties: Neato! auntyalias: it's sort of cute serving meats like that auntyalias: meat munchies to have with a tea break, smoked meats and such all ondoa12002: now i see,........... i thought you wanted to ake compartiments lenghtwise ondoa12002: another cup of coffe to get awake , lol auntyalias: side ways. Lengthwise when it hung everything could fall out auntyalias: LOL ondoa12002: another cup of coffe to get awake, lol ondoa12002: you se,i'm in great need.............. auntyalias: You got up with the chickens auntyalias: was it even light out yet? auntyalias: I don't think so ondoa12002: yes, its leight by four in the morning, sitting near the open window, blue sky, birds singing.................. sylsnovelties: Sounds nice auntyalias: gosh light by four? ondoa12002: it is a good day auntyalias: I think it starts to get light like 5:45 or 6am auntyalias: that's when Ruth wakes up and needs help to go to the loo ondoa12002: nope, not here auntyalias: then she goes back to bed for another hour or so sylsnovelties: I have to be up at 6 am tomorrow. auntyalias: Yikes, why? auntyalias: Syl, what's going on at 6am for you? auntyalias: yikes, I'm sleeping in like a bad dog sylsnovelties: We need to go to Albuquerque for an appointment that I have with the wound clinic for my leg ulcers. ondoa12002: long drive ? auntyalias: Ah, well then, let me check the timer to see how long we got on this curing, we should be done in less than 15 minutes sylsnovelties: It's a little over 2 hours drive sylsnovelties: ok, sounds good. auntyalias: God I love the food in Albuquerque auntyalias: ate myself like a fat goose auntyalias: when I was there ondoa12002: chili ?? sylsnovelties: Yeah, they do have good food. sylsnovelties: Oh yes! auntyalias: Oh, great Mexican food auntyalias: just the best sylsnovelties: Where did you eat at NJ? auntyalias: I don't know, I was a guest for a couple of days, but we went to this one place and we ate in a patio ondoa12002: i am married to an african, chili is my daily bread. I love it auntyalias: African, which country? ondoa12002: Cameroon auntyalias: I was married to a North African, from Casa Blanca, Said's daddy auntyalias: Gosh, we should have an African Theme Month soon auntyalias: what does he think about my African Mix, if he's ever seen it ondoa12002: that would be xool, so my husband won't think any longer i'm nuts auntyalias: My neighbor from Uganda said about my piles of beads, "You could ransome a King with all these beads." sylsnovelties: You might have eaten at Little Anita's. They have a nice patio there. auntyalias: It was on the outskirts of the city, very rustic, lots of shade trees, fountain, stone paving, very nice, food so good you bite your fingers sylsnovelties: heeheehee auntyalias: The timer should be going off soon, I got an internal timer set for a half an hour, brb auntyalias: what did I tell you, I went to turn the timer around to see, and it went BRRRRIIIINNNGGGG in my hand auntyalias: I jumped like a cat auntyalias: my fur all fluffed up sylsnovelties: heeheehee auntyalias: scared me to bits auntyalias: you'd a laughed, I'm glad I went to the loo recently, I'd have pee'd myself auntyalias: my heart is still beating hard auntyalias: LOL auntyalias: one of those moments you're glad you're alone with God ondoa12002: so you can't get to sleep now auntyalias: Not by a LONG shot, Pascal auntyalias: LOL auntyalias: not sleepy any more!! auntyalias: this one came out really pretty don't you think auntyalias: I can say that because you two are my darling girls auntyalias: It's so hot and I want to fuss with it sylsnovelties: I love the way this looks. auntyalias: ARRRRGGGHHH auntyalias: I wish I had fire proof finger tips auntyalias: aspbestos fingers, that's the ticket auntyalias: it's Hot but the top is off, now I peel the foil ondoa12002: icewater beside you auntyalias: I touch my pasta machine sylsnovelties left the room auntyalias: and my window is always open, so it's a good way to cool off my fingertips auntyalias: oh we lost Syl sylsnovelties joined the room auntyalias: Coolness, now I'll open the other compartment sylsnovelties: It's so irritating when Yahoo dumps me. sylsnovelties: I looks great! auntyalias: That second cut was too far down auntyalias: oh well auntyalias: that one was perfect sylsnovelties: That looks so neat! ondoa12002: good job auntyalias: I was showing James auntyalias: he's been watching me do these all day sylsnovelties: It looks great! sylsnovelties: There are a lot of possibilities with this. auntyalias: I think this qualifies as an Easy Breezy technique auntyalias: don't ya think auntyalias: even with the foil fiddle faddle sylsnovelties: I think so! auntyalias: I'm so tripped out auntyalias: I could dance auntyalias: LOL sylsnovelties: heeheehee auntyalias: and they aren't even sanded or finished yet auntyalias: there's room for embellishments to hide the wonky bits auntyalias: LOL sylsnovelties: I hate to run, but I better get to bed! auntyalias: Go on and have a good trip tomorrow sylsnovelties: Thanks for the demo! As always it was great! sylsnovelties: auntyalias: My pleasure Syl my Night Owl sylsnovelties: Nitey Nite!! auntyalias: Nighty Night ondoa12002: good night Syl sylsnovelties left the room auntyalias: So what have you been working on lately? ondoa12002: are you making mini food to put inside ? auntyalias: That's a good idea auntyalias: could be a good way to flow to mini Asian food ondoa12002: not much clay, i had to finish some beaded tulips for mathersday auntyalias: fill these compartments with that auntyalias: Did you get them finished? ondoa12002: did you see my bumpy egg? auntyalias: not that I can remember ondoa12002: yes, made 5 of them, potted. auntyalias: got a link? auntyalias: to your bumpy egg, did you send it through clay pix list? ondoa12002: http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumList?u=4107954 followed you advice you see ondoa12002: the tulpi is under Perles if interested auntyalias: Grandma's egg? ondoa12002: yes auntyalias: is that the one you mean, it's wonderful auntyalias: let me look some more auntyalias: how fun, great leaves ondoa12002: the bumpy side is the back, guess why auntyalias: Oh perfection belongs to God auntyalias: not mortals auntyalias: let me look at the tulips ondoa12002: the top also, so thats why i put Grandma on it ondoa12002: i love baeds too, so i plan to combine those two things. Bottles to keep the flowers or so........... auntyalias: The first thing I did was a bowl of Fire Cane and the inside I pressed irridescent seed beads into the clay auntyalias: sort of like DaDa art auntyalias: mink lined tea cup and all that sort of thing auntyalias: your beading is very impressive ondoa12002: yes something like that auntyalias: I never got into beading small like that. I fell in love with the chop and my mirror image beads auntyalias: like a little story on each side ondoa12002: recently i purchased some japanese beading books, oh my good, i understand EVERYTHING auntyalias: How funny, I'll bet ondoa12002: i adore minis of all kind ondoa12002: graphics are international, my chance auntyalias: My son wants to use the computer, I've been for 14 hours auntyalias: since I put up a tute this morning, so he's breathing down my neck auntyalias: and I think I'll clean up my work table, so it is good to see you auntyalias: let's do Africa Month for July auntyalias: and you clear some time for us to show us stuff from your husband's country auntyalias: we'll do some minis that will speak to his heart auntyalias: how about that? auntyalias: sound like fun? ondoa12002: thats okay, i will look for pictures and send them to you,okay? auntyalias: I'll put them up on my site auntyalias: for reference material ondoa12002: good, so now go to sleep!!! You've done enough for today auntyalias: I got to go now, so see you soon auntyalias: xoxo norajean@norajean.com http://www.norajean.com Life is like a lump of clay, both are what you make of it. |