06-16-03: WebCam Demo Log-1. Doing a full sized face. 06-16-03: WebCam Demo Log-2. The Pentagon Trick. JudithK took over 150 screen shots Karin was hosting 156 pictures of this demo. Full Face Sculpting now on photo gallery pages. 05/15/08 |
I did not see Karen of Clay Alley Come online, didn't see her typing, only saw her leaving out. It was a Yahoo glitch. If anyone has logs for this day that has Karen's comments please send them to me. | ||
Here's looking at you, Kid. BonsaiKathy caught these 20 screen shots of doing the eyes on a full face. It's in an Epson Album. |
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You are in "*g.MSATClayArt:1" ( ) jakmiami joined the room jakmiami: Hmmm, I seem to be early! auntyalias: Yo Judith, just posting to the list that Rickie Beth is here auntyalias: brb jakmiami: Hi Rickie...how do you like NJ's lair?? auntyalias: She says "it's gorgeous" and that stuns me auntyalias: I think it more like a human habitrail auntyalias: I'm going to move the camera because she's getting nervous auntyalias: That's my Lex Gigeroff Doll auntyalias: worked on him this week end auntyalias: he needs a T shirt and some shorts, a baseball cap auntyalias: and glasses josey59801 joined the room auntyalias: Josey, I forget your first name auntyalias: I have to edit my Yahoo Friend's list so I can greet you with your first name and not your Yahoo ID bonsaikathy joined the room josey59801: Hi, Eva P here. I bonsaikathy: Hi Nj, Jackie and Eva auntyalias: Ok, let me edit my Friend's list, Howdy Kathy josey59801: I went camping so I am behind what is going on josey59801: Hi Jackie auntyalias: Malia01, are you new or do I have old timer's disease and have forgotten your name? auntyalias: Rickie Beth/doglove2200 is visiting me right now and she's going to be watching the Demo from this side auntyalias: So nothing is going on right now other than we're having coffee and I'm trying to find order on my work table auntyalias: slept in and she got here while I still had sleeper crumbs in my eyes auntyalias: do we have any special requests? techi_mom56 joined the room auntyalias: Hi Nancy auntyalias: I'm looking for requests lommomy joined the room techi_mom56: just hanging out... lommomy: Hello, just poped in to say hello. Can't stay auntyalias: I'm going to show Rickie Beth for a tick, so y'all say Howdy lommomy: Kids are comming home techi_mom56: hi rickie beth...giggle lommomy: josey59801: Hi Ricki Beth auntyalias: could you see the family resemblance auntyalias: She's going through the giftie boxes lommomy: great mask techi_mom56: good mask auntyalias: it's like Christmas in June techi_mom56: i bet auntyalias: These half faces are from the eye sculpting effort auntyalias: so I thought we'd give them a nose and cure them auntyalias: half are done and half are still raw auntyalias: made them on the skull form auntyalias: so any requests? auntyalias: Rickie is new to clay and she's chill for anything that gets made today auntyalias: I'm still waking up all the way so I don't want to pick a topic for Demo bonsaikathy: are you still working on a specific theme or is it anything goes josey59801: Me too lommomy: NJ did you find the Bead and Button Mag. for the box? bonsaikathy: if not how about lips auntyalias: didn't get further than Ruth's, got to stop off at the library next door auntyalias: Lips, shall we sculpt a full sized face? lommomy: ok just asking... auntyalias: if so, male or female? bonsaikathy: either way, lommomy: time for me to pop out, you all have a nice day, Lisa auntyalias: ciao Lisa lommomy left the room auntyalias: So full sized face, let me get some "skin" sheets ready and cover this skull form with some foil mzsayk joined the room bonsaikathy: Hi mzsayk, can we please put a name with the ID Honey auntyalias: mzsayk, what's your first name honey? auntyalias: LOL auntyalias: GMTA bonsaikathy: we think alike dear mzsayk: Lauren bonsaikathy: Hi Lauren mzsayk: HI mzsayk: what,s the demo today? bonsaikathy: welcome to demo and NJ is about to do a full face sculpt bonsaikathy: have you got her webcam open? auntyalias: Full-Face-grp Roni (meows3xx) joined the room Roni: hi everyone auntyalias: Yo Roni, we're doing full sized faces auntyalias: Full-Face-grp bonsaikathy: Hi Roni auntyalias: Lost Lauren auntyalias: ah well, going to cover this skull form with some foil and then press out some "skin" clay sheets auntyalias: I took all my unfinished dolls and peeled off the clay and remixed them auntyalias: some of the earlier colors weren't right and I never finished the dolls auntyalias: remixing all the clay got it down to one tone that is useful for demo like this Roni: does everyone just have a skull or two laying around? think Michael's has them in stock? LOL bonsaikathy: no but probably not a bad idea auntyalias: you make it out of foil and clay josey59801: I don't mean to sound dumb, but what is the foil for and does it not have to be smooth auntyalias: no dumb questions, the foil is to get the final face off of the mold josey59801: I thought that might be it techi_mom56: i gotta run for about 45minutes...will be back on when i get back home auntyalias: and get it as smooth as you can, but don't get stressed with some little wrinkles, they are bound to happen auntyalias: Ok, Nancy see ya techi_mom56 left the room josey59801: sounds good jude (greatauntjudy) joined the room auntyalias: Howdy Jude mzsayk left the room mzsayk joined the room auntyalias: the nose poked through the foil so I'm folding it in half and covering the skull again jude: Howdy! jude: You have a nosy nose? Oh, my! mzsayk: how do I the web cam,I type really slow can someone help? bonsaikathy: yes honey, just right click on auntyalias and then click on view webcam auntyalias: I got to press sheets, someone will help, Oh Thanks Kathy bonsaikathy: welcome auntyalias: make sure she's in through Yahoo messenger and not the website bonsaikathy: ok, did you get that honey mzsayk: I can see ,thank you bonsaikathy: great bonsaikathy: and you're welcome auntyalias: I'm going to put this skin clay in the food processor to warm it up rather than wrestle with it jude: I see a person peeking out there behind NJ's PM. auntyalias: That's Rickie Beth/doglove 2200 auntyalias: come to visit jude: Howdy! Roni: hi Rickie Beth auntyalias: LOL auntyalias: she's not used to being in the spot light auntyalias: LOL auntyalias: so we'll focus on the skull, just got the sheets of "skin" clay warmed and pressed auntyalias: now I'll lay down the first layer so we have something to put nostrils, lips and eyes on, get coffee for this part it's really boring jude: Now, NJ, that's the wrong attitude! It's all VERY interesting. jude: Hehehehe bonsaikathy: I think so bonsaikathy: each part is interesting if you've never done it before or are still a beginner. It helps you learn the basics jakmiami: Hey Rickie -- just catching up with the conversation. Re the skull...I found a complete skeleton in Michael's during the Halloween pre-season...sometime in September I think. It's about 18 inches high...the skull is a little wierd (not exactly the right scale), but it basically, it seems to be correct. You might want to keep on the lookout for it... jude: I like to watch to see her technique. How does she slap all that clay down? How does she keep from putting marks all over everything? Schtuff like that there. bonsaikathy: you know come to think of it I have a few of those tiny ones that would be perfect to do a mold on for smaller scales, hmm will have to dig them out bonsaikathy: no pun intended jakmiami: Now that sounds just right for the Halloween wreath! bonsaikathy: rats, they won't work, the faces are too crooked, kind of cheap things moodygirl2 joined the room auntyalias: Ok, now we have the first layer laid down moodygirl2: Hi everyone, sorry I'm late. My name is Patricia. auntyalias: Shall we do a roll call with first names and locations, Howdy Patricia auntyalias: NoraJean, San Francisco jakmiami: JudithK, Miami Beach jude: jude, Tehachapi, CA moodygirl2: Patricia, Charlotte, North Carolina josey59801: Hi Patricia, Eva P, Montana mzsayk: Lauren, New York jude: Montana? Whereabouts? josey59801: Missoula jude: I have family in Red Lodge. moodygirl2: Hi Eva, I remember you from my first demo last week josey59801: Really, I grew up in Big Timber, Not too far from Red Lodge auntyalias: ok, we'll start from the top of this face and move down auntyalias: I'm going to build up the forehead, nose and then do eyes auntyalias: is that all right with folks? bonsaikathy: sorry Kathy in E. TN bonsaikathy: had to help hubby for a mintue bonsaikathy: minute, I can't type bonsaikathy: Hi Karen bonsaikathy: did you get my email honey josey59801: Sounds good to me bonsaikathy: good mzsayk: Miz Karen ,Lauren is in the house mzsayk: Yep auntyalias: Said's friend blows glass and made this ash tray for him jude: Pretty! mzsayk: Yes, was in hospital for too long again mzsayk: slow coming around this time mzsayk: ha ha mzsayk: smokin Roni: sorry, bopping in and out, Roni, Michigan Roni: hi Karen moodygirl2: Karen - are you the 'Clay Alley' Karen? ( sorry I'm a newbie here ) Roni: I get confused between Kathy and Karen and I'm blonde, now LOL bonsaikathy: it's easy to remember me because of the bonsai in my ID moodygirl2: I just ordered a package from you a couple days ago and it got here TODAY!! Wow. Great service Roni: said I was blonde bonsaikathy: she is the best where that's concerned isn't she bonsaikathy: yup moodygirl2: bonsaikathy: I don't know how you do it, the package reaches me before I order half the time, lol bonsaikathy: ok for those not in here NJ has put skin colored clay all over the tin foil which she has carefully pressed into the skull for the indentations bonsaikathy: she then put a slice across the top for the forehead and now is working on the nose bonsaikathy: I'm not sure Karen bonsaikathy: we'll have to ask her auntyalias: questions before I do the eyes Roni: NJ said it's foil covered with clay malia01us joined the room auntyalias: Full-Face-grp auntyalias: this is an old tute section auntyalias: it sort of goes over what we're doing here auntyalias: anyone have any questions at this point? bonsaikathy: NJ shall we try roll call one more time now that we have some newcomers bonsaikathy: and some of us namely me are sitting her this time auntyalias: Biz-Archive/Sculpt/RainingMen/AnatomyBook-3 auntyalias: NoraJean, San Francisco bonsaikathy: Kathy, E. TN malia01us: Donna, PA: first time checking out NJ's demos online....can't stay long, just glad I figured out how to do this! jakmiami: JudithK, Miami Beach jude: jude, Tehachapi, CA, aka Aunt Judy moodygirl2: Patricia, Charlotte, NC josey59801: Eva P. Western Montana bonsaikathy: Hi Donna bonsaikathy: welcome mzsayk: Lauren, New York meows3xx left the room Roni (meows3xx) joined the room malia01us: thanks! malia01us: Harrisburg malia01us: you're pretty close by! malia01us: I know who to call when I'm stuck with something then... malia01us: Did you? malia01us: I hardly ever cross the river! malia01us: auntyalias: ok auntyalias: take the width of the eye auntyalias: and use it as a measure auntyalias: and eyes are "one eye width apart" auntyalias: for the most part auntyalias: an easy way to measure where things should be placed auntyalias: from the corner of the eye to the nose, should be one eye width auntyalias: see? malia01us: so far mzsayk: yes josey59801: Yes auntyalias: now from the corner of the nose to the outer edge of the mouth is one eye width too auntyalias: see? mzsayk: cool auntyalias: from the lower lip, which we don't have yet, to the chin is one eye width auntyalias: that's an easy way to map out the face, so are we ready to start on the eyes, or are there any questions? mzsayk: ready bonsaikathy: ready here malia01us: have to run, everyone. malia01us: back to work... josey59801: Ready bonsaikathy: bye honey, glad you could stop by moodygirl2: ready here too auntyalias: Biz-Archive/Sculpt/Eyeball/04-24-03-Thms auntyalias: here is the demo we did eyeball iris malia01us: will be back next time... Kathy, be in touch! moodygirl2: bye Donna nice meeting you auntyalias: I'll be using one of these malia01us left the room auntyalias: Look at the bottom of the page auntyalias: it's that eyeball cane I'm going to be using and it's with a round kemper took I'll cut out some eyelids jude: I have got to go. Dang, can't see when you take that duct tape off that guy's face. Oh, well. jude: auntyalias: LOL josey59801 left the room auntyalias: you heading out Jude? moodygirl2: bye Jude jude: Yup...will be back later. Take care all! greatauntjudy left the room auntyalias: so y'all with me? Check that eyeball page for the separate steps auntyalias: Biz-Archive/Sculpt/Eyeball/04-24-03-Thms mzsayk: yes bonsaikathy: yup Roni: here auntyalias: my clayshaper is still packed from this week end auntyalias: brb auntyalias: this is a large clay shaper for those who don't know about this tool auntyalias: it has a soft rubber tip josey59801 joined the room moodygirl2: I'm not familiar with that tool... bonsaikathy: I'll be back in about 5 minutes, I've got to start dinner real quick josey59801: I'm sorry but I lost you. What is that that you are using now? moodygirl2: Karen, do you have those at clay alley? auntyalias: this is a clay shaper bonsaikathy: I hate missing this part moodygirl2: Okay. Thanks. auntyalias: and Karen has smaller sizes of this auntyalias: the top one is Zero size used for doing minis moodygirl2: Are they used for shaping & smoothing? I have a problem with finger prints on my work.. auntyalias: now did everyone get the eyeball tute link? auntyalias: yes, smoothing and shaping, I ROLL the cone tip over things to form them, don't drag auntyalias: Biz-Archive/Sculpt/Eyeball/04-24-03-Thms auntyalias: the pictures at the bottom of this page is what I'm going to do next auntyalias: cutting out two circles auntyalias: cut the circles NOT in half, one side will be larger than the other auntyalias: the larger side will be the top lid auntyalias: the smaller side will be the lower lid auntyalias: put the lids over these GOOGLEY eyes auntyalias: and the face won't look so startled auntyalias: YIKEs auntyalias: LOL auntyalias: had to fill in the eye a bit here auntyalias: upper and lower eyelids auntyalias: the easy breezy way bonsaikathy: I'm glad I got back for that part auntyalias: saving one eye for you Kathy bonsaikathy: thanks NJ bonsaikathy: I'm watching now auntyalias: start from the corner of the eye and lay the eyelid over the eyeball auntyalias: and then do the same for the lower lid, start from the inner corner of the eye and lay it over the eyeball, stretch it a bit to make it make it to the outer corner if you need to josey59801: That is so cool, you make it look so easy! auntyalias: Oh it IS easy auntyalias: now I roll the cone shaped clay shaper over the eyelid auntyalias: and then merge the eyelid to the face auntyalias: now see how rolling the cone clay shaper over the eyelid makes it look realistic auntyalias: for eyeballs are just BALLS covered with flesh auntyalias: so we make them the way they are auntyalias: ball, or half ball shapes, as with this skull form auntyalias: in a socket auntyalias: then covered with flat sheets for eyelids moodygirl2: that is so cool... auntyalias: using the kemper tool to get a round shape to start with, I'll blend these eyelids into the face and then we'll work on this nose auntyalias: so questions at this point? moodygirl2: no questions...yet mzsayk: no bonsaikathy: not here josey59801: no tedi382001 joined the room bonsaikathy: Hi Amy auntyalias: remember what I was saying about one eyewidth? jakmiami: is anyone else taking screen shots? because I need to take about a 10 minute break... auntyalias: well the bottom of the nose is usually one eye width wide auntyalias: let's all break then auntyalias: potty, get food and drink auntyalias: smoke em if you got them and I'll save log jakmiami: thanks... moodygirl2: I hope to see you all later. bonsaikathy: I'll send you the pics I have so far mzsayk left the room mzsayk joined the room mzsayk: thanks auntyalias: you're welcome Lauren, now right click on my name to get the cam auntyalias: we're on break so I'm going to do my biologicals and brb bonsaikathy: NJ if you get a dup of either I'm sorry bonsaikathy: the stupid email program crashed in the middle of sending them to you auntyalias: no problem Kathy tedi382001 left the room tedi382001 joined the room tedi382001: sorry got booted mzsayk left the room mzsayk joined the room auntyalias: back auntyalias: now if you're wondering what this picture is auntyalias: it's the Eye Width trick auntyalias: that things on the face can be measured by the width of the eye auntyalias: the bottom of the nose is one eye width auntyalias: I was mistaken, it's one eye width from the bottom of the nose to the bottom of the lower lip auntyalias: the length of the nose is one eye width long auntyalias: the face is 5 eye widths apart auntyalias: from the top of the eyebrow to the bottom of the eye is one eye width josey59801: I wondered at first then figured it out, is it on your web site so it can be printed? auntyalias: it looks weird but it's a measure we can use to quickly place features on the face auntyalias: can someone explain how to capture a screen shot? That's the easiest way to save this image auntyalias: Kathy got your pix and forwarded them to the Epson account, Thanks honey, they all seemed to come through bonsaikathy: great auntyalias: I got 20 in the inbox, is that how many you meant to send? jakmiami: NJ: I've alreadygot about 60 images...do you want me to try and upload them now or wait until we get thru? bonsaikathy: I think so bonsaikathy: let me check auntyalias: I still have to rearrange them before getting them to an album, but that's how many got forwarded bonsaikathy: yup auntyalias: great auntyalias: Oh, Judith auntyalias: let me put these eyeballs shots that Kathy sent to an album and I'll password protect it and sort them later, then the inbox will be empty and you can load them up auntyalias: brb josey59801: It makes it much easier to get the proportion right auntyalias: ok, Judith, the inbox is empty now you can upload what you have to Epson now if you want auntyalias: I'm organizing ordering of Chinese Delivery for us right now auntyalias: not cooking today, no sireee auntyalias: brb jakmiami: ok...will take a bit ... don't start withoutme ls! bonsaikathy: we're having potato and macaroni salad and hamburgs and hotdogs bonsaikathy: easy breezy bonsaikathy: sounds good auntyalias: Biz-Archive/MSAT/ClayArt/WebCam/ScreenShots auntyalias: Mitch put this together on how to do screen shots, so y'all can save this eyeball width picture auntyalias: and keep it as reference auntyalias: I don't have it on my site as yet bonsaikathy: It's a good reference auntyalias: let me know when y'all got this screen shot for your own reference and we'll move forward on getting features on this face auntyalias: and when folks had time enough to get coffee and go to the loo mzsayk: me auntyalias: shall we take roll and see who's back at their keyboards? josey59801: I would like a copy Karen auntyalias: NoraJean, San Francisco mzsayk: Lauren, New York josey59801: Eva P, Montana auntyalias: we'll wait a bit for folks to get back from break jakmiami left the room jakmiami joined the room moodygirl2: Hi all. I'm Patricia in Charlotte tedi382001: hi I'm Amy in Canada auntyalias: we have more than half of us back auntyalias: how about another 5 minutes and then we do the nose and lips of the full face? mzsayk: ok moodygirl2: ok Roni: Roni, Michigan auntyalias: The word Thrill comes from fencing auntyalias: when you run someone through with the sword auntyalias: then it was taken up as a term "oh his look just THRILLed me" auntyalias: like that auntyalias: the word Nostril auntyalias: is Nose+thrill auntyalias: so all we do is stick a tool in the nose to get the hole, stick the tool in and pull sideways auntyalias: ok? auntyalias: looks uncomfortable auntyalias: LOL auntyalias: I've not met anyone who couldn't put their forefinger in their nose auntyalias: for all our lives we are stretching out our nostrils with our forefinger auntyalias: it's a scientific non-fact auntyalias: LOL mzsayk: eww auntyalias: I'm looking through the anatomy books for the name of the little dip on the upper lip auntyalias: anyone know what that is called? auntyalias: can't find it auntyalias: one book said, "hollow of the upper lip auntyalias: now the mouth isn't flat on the face auntyalias: the muscles ring the mouth auntyalias: and it makes sort of a pentagon auntyalias: if you put a pair of lips flat on a face like this auntyalias: it'll look sort of weird auntyalias: but if we build up the area in this pentagon shape and then sculpt out lips from there it'll look more real tedi382001: sorry gotta go, people seem to need food for some reason, thanks nj auntyalias: See ya Amy auntyalias: and if we were aiming for a smile we'll have the extra clay we need to make the laugh lines tedi382001 left the room bonsaikathy: that really looks very funny bonsaikathy: very good Karen mzsayk: show off bonsaikathy: lol, are you cutting and pasting this young lady mzsayk: auntyalias: Kathy do you have your cam on? auntyalias: I can't see it here bonsaikathy: no auntyalias: ah, I was confused bonsaikathy: sorry auntyalias: hold on I got to get a book, brb bonsaikathy: ok auntyalias: back auntyalias: caught some air bubbles mzsayk: thank you frogger70301 joined the room bonsaikathy: She never seases to amaze me when she does these things bonsaikathy: Hi Sweetie, how's it going frogger70301: me? bonsaikathy: yup frogger70301: hey, Karen. Kath, not too good. Roni: hi Mitch bonsaikathy: what's the matter honey frogger70301: Hey, boo. auntyalias: Hey Mitch auntyalias: we got a pouty face here frogger70301: just tore up my house trying to clean it. auntyalias: LOL auntyalias: now after cleaning you'll never find anything anymore bonsaikathy: sounds like me when I clean, lol frogger70301: I'm trying to throw stuff away, but everything I pick up looks interesting. frogger70301: hubby's definately going to fuss when he gets home today. frogger70301: hard tyo do with two kids. bonsaikathy: haha, I've tried to tell her that before, she says it doesn't work frogger70301: too much junk in there. bonsaikathy: hey they can go to Gram's frogger70301: can't even throw a pair of shoes in there. frogger70301: she needed a break from them. frogger70301: I sent them over there all weekend so I could throw most of their toys away. bonsaikathy: it was the cutest thing, today we went to a friends house to help with his car, his 3 yr old grandson has fallen in love with me and when we went over today, he got really mad that his brother gave me a hug and kiss. he started crying bonsaikathy: cracked me up frogger70301: oh, how cute! auntyalias: so there's the full face bonsaikathy: he came over and sat on my lap so that his brother couldn't get near me again frogger70301: Ivy used to be like that with one of hubbys friends. bonsaikathy: bye Karen frogger70301: Bye, hon. auntyalias: now the Pentagon trick around the mouth took longer than I figured kmrhodes left the room jakmiami: a face of character! auntyalias: I didn't even SEE Karen here auntyalias: didn't see her typing auntyalias: Dang Yahoo bonsaikathy: I think it was effective though bonsaikathy: it's looks great auntyalias: I didn't see Karen typing mzsayk: really nice bonsaikathy: are you serious, she's been in here for quite awhile auntyalias: sigh, I hate it when Yahoo edits my chat log auntyalias: I'm serious, I didn't see her, or see her typing or anything auntyalias: Kathy can you copy your log and send it to me? jakmiami: NJ: I missed the bit about the pentagon... bonsaikathy: how wierd, she's been in almost since the beginning auntyalias: This has happened to me before. I'll go out and come back in. bonsaikathy: ok auntyalias: Judith, I'll explain when I get back You are in
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