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12-24-04-5: First layer of skin on the Male and filing cured figures. |
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You are in "*g.MSATClayArt:1" ( ) Fearless Leader: Fifth Log, and good time for a break rjchase222: Yes Momma! :) Fearless Leader: I'll take questions if there are any at this point Fearless Leader: yikes a bunch of type just disappeared Fearless Leader: Yahoo is so weird Susan (minimoon47) joined the room Susan: Fearless Leader: are there any questions at this point of the process? I'm going to mix a different batch of clay for the male. Using the clay I made for the female for her use later. That way I don't start out with one mix, not have enough to finish the body and end up with a calico person. Fearless Leader: Susan I see no Type, can you try again? Susan: sorry, I hit wrong button marlea_anderson: so far so good- I'm in and out Fearless Leader: ok, good, sometimes we type and we can't be seen Susan: I got out of work early so I am home in time for some clay play! Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Sculpt/AluminumFoil/Armature-001 Fearless Leader: this is what we did just now. Susan: Good to ee you NJ! Susan: and you're building people...oboy Fearless Leader: and I'm going to chop up some white and burnt umber for a skin clay. Fearless Leader: Waving at you Susan Susan: LOVE the shirt! and the wave Fearless Leader: I'm wrapped up like a Christmas Present with this shirt of my sister Shannon: oops I missed Mom leaving :-( Fearless Leader: can't leave this shirt out at night, it's so loud it'll keep a body awake Susan: lol Kat Indpls IN (kgedrich) joined the room Fearless Leader: ok, so I'll toss white and burnt umber into the food processor and make some new skin. Hey Kat Kat Indpls IN: hi NJ Shannon: hi Kat Kat Indpls IN: hi Shannon miss_meme_30 left the room Fearless Leader: we'll use more burnt umber with this second batch of skin clay Susan: looks like aotmeal coo Susan: oatmeal cookie dough Fearless Leader: so the male will have a tan Susan: will he have tan lines?? Shannon: LOL Fearless Leader: lol miss_meme_30 joined the room Rossija: WB Missy! rjchase222: Missy u r back!!!!!!!!!! minimadness423: NJ when you have a chance...send me another invite...the stupid ad at the bottom went wonky and my chat window is less than a line tall minimadness423 left the room minimadness423 joined the room rjchase222: I'm glad I'm not the only one whose ad at the bottom went wacky!!! Shannon: weird! Fearless Leader: Did it help going out and coming back in? miss_meme_30: dang yahell minimadness423: this thing has been wonky sinc the ice storm came through. fortunately, we didn't get much ice on the lines...our line stayted up but a main one in did and no Internet for about 6 hours Kat Indpls IN: was it that callwave one Rossija: OOOh, it's a whole 4 degrees outside here! Rossija: :-D rjchase222: OOOOOOOOOOOO thats to cold for me!!!!!!!!! Fearless Leader: 4 degrees, I'm such a weather whimp. I have windows upen Fearless Leader: open too minimadness423: yep....14 here...great for putting a lid on the boiled custard pot and sitting it out on the side porch to melt that stubborn spot....GRIN Rossija: LOL! minimadness423: Thanks to Bill Gates...its windows upen Susan: lol Kat Indpls IN: 0 zero zilch degrees here and it says feels like -11 Fearless Leader: it's 51 Degrees here right now in San Francisco Shannon: BrrrrrrrGrrrrrrGrowllllll LOL Rossija: It'll be down to -5 tomorrow morning, but back into the mid-40s next week. Fearless Leader: Oh Let's do a roll call please Fearless Leader: NoraJean, San Francisco minimadness423: so Kat...what does your weather look like in Indy...how many inches do you have access to tonight? Shannon: oh NJ you big meanie!!!!! LOL Shannon: <<--West Virginia Kat Indpls IN: we got 12 inches here on the East side miss_meme_30: Missy VA Rossija: Mary, Ohio Susan: Susan in Ontario, Canada minimadness423: KathyL, Kentucky rjchase222: Razma Fallbrook CA Kat Indpls IN: Kat Indianapolis Indiana frigid and snowed in Rossija: Got that beat -- 15 here in central Ohio Rossija: inches of snow that is Fearless Leader: what is the temperature in Ontario canada? Shannon: you have 15 inches of snow Mary??? Kat Indpls IN: 12 inches yesterday 6 inches under that minimadness423: Kat...where in IN did they get 31"? Kat Indpls IN: Columbus Whiteland real bad marlea_anderson: Marlea, PA Rossija: Yep. Snowed ALL day Wed. & into Thurs morning. LEvel 2 snow emergency -- no unnecessary travel. Kat Indpls IN: columbus got 2 feet whiteland/brown county slammed shut pasadena_cal: Cal and it is supposed to get down to 39 tonight in Altadena. Shannon: oh wow.... we had a little a couple days ago, but none on the ground now here in Parkersburg Fearless Leader: 39 is shirtsleeve weather for some of these snow bunnies, Cal. minimadness423: we have cousins who left Melbourn FLA at 32 degrees and drove to Dayton OH to find 16" of white this moring. W & Sue said that was better than hurricanes any time Rossija: Several counties around Columbus Ohio had level 3 snow emergencies -- emergency vehicles only, anoyne else is risking a ticket. minimadness423: brb Kat Indpls IN: okay just measured dog its 15 inches out there, goes to the puppies belly pasadena_cal: Yah, I have my short sleeved shirt on with a thin sweater. Shannon: goodness! the only day that was bad here was Monday... and it only put the kids schools on a 2 hour delay... funny how different it can be when we're so close Kat Indpls IN: she loves it though, rocky hates it Rossija: The weather person was joking that the university students would be in shorts when it gets to 42 next week. Kat Indpls IN: space heater at feet wrapped in blanket LOL Shannon: LOL no doubt Mary! it was like that yesterday, and it was great! compared to the 15 we had for a couple days! rjchase222: I don't miss those days of snow & cold thats for sure!! :) Shannon: I don't blame you RJ.... where did you used to live? Rossija: It was actually kinda nice to curl up with my cat & a good book. rjchase222: Lodi WI !!!!!!!!! Kat Indpls IN: love winter, at least with cold you can turn up the heat, start a fire, put on more clothes you can only go so far when it is hot Shannon: LOL Mary! Shannon: ohhhhh RJ... I don't think I could stand it any farther north than I am...LOL technically I'm in the south.. just below the mason dixon line... but it still gets darn cold!!!! ;-) Kat Indpls IN: I'm from Michigan originally so this is nothing new to me Rossija: At leastI still had power. There was 170,000+ in Ohio without electricity. Fearless Leader: yikes Shannon: wow... you were lucky Mary! Kat Indpls IN: one of the reasons i invested in a generator Fearless Leader: Man o man, I'm glad we just get the occasional earthquake Rossija: I know it! They opened the city rec centers that had power for folks to get warm. Shannon: LOL NJ rjchase222: I know I've gotten used to the weather here in CA cause when it gets down in the low 50's or mid 40's I'm cold!!!!! :) Shannon: wow... sounds like the storm we had here in the early 90's .... well you probably got that one too Kat Indpls IN: just turn on only essential appliances and crank up the wood burning stove Shannon: LOL you're spoiled RJ ;-) Rossija: Be careful with the generator, Kat. They reported that at least 1 person was killed by CO poisoning from the generator. Kat Indpls IN: worst storm i can remember is the one in 1978 Kat Indpls IN: generator is outside rjchase222: Yep am I am really really glad I am spoiled! LOL meplus5kids left the room meplus5kids joined the room Shannon: I'm glad for you too! :-* Fearless Leader: Hey Jean meplus5kids: lets see if Yahoo will let me stay on for a while longer Rossija: Apparently that one in 78 was the previous worst here, too. Kat Indpls IN: brother got married on the day of the 1978 blizzard in MI was 23 inches in less then 3 hours Shannon: NJ, when you wrap like that, what do you do to keep air bubbles out? rjchase222: Now I suppose I am going to have to make a male & a female jester! LOL Kat Indpls IN: something like 27 inches and her in a hoop skirt wedding dress Shannon: oh my goodness Kat!!! Rossija: yikes! Shannon: great idea RJ! Fearless Leader: Oh air bubbles Fearless Leader: hmmm Kat Indpls IN: yep fell right into a snow drift and up went the skirt ROFLMAO Susan: bubbles Shannon: LOLOLOL Rossija: LOLOL Fearless Leader: if I find them then I pop them, but after wrapping I compress going from top to bottom, easing out air Shannon: you mean, by sort of rolling between your hands? Kat Indpls IN: think bro should have known that marriage wasnt going to last, locked keys to car in garage, had to break into his own garage, then he had to get someone to come plow him out, wedding hours delayed Shannon: oh I see.... you have more than one layer of clay in that roll on his leg.... I thought they just connected then stopped... Rossija: not an auspicious start, huh, Kat? Kat Indpls IN: band couldnt make it to the reception Kat Indpls IN: Dad and I had above 100 degree temperatures Kat Indpls IN: nope marriage lasted exactly 1 yr 2 days Shannon: awwwwwwww :-( Kat Indpls IN: he's been married now to the same woman for 20 yrs so glad that one didn't make it meplus5kids: Gee NJ, that looks like the ex Shannon: NJ, I don't know if all machines are different, but what number did you roll that on? Fearless Leader: now when we add leaf shapes to the male we focus on building the upper body, more shoulders, thicker chest, narrow waist and hips Fearless Leader: The widest setting Shannon Kat Indpls IN: This sister in law is a sweet person Shannon: ok Shannon: that's wonderful Kat! Fearless Leader: looks like James, he's skinny Shannon: LOL Kat Indpls IN: yep, at least one of us got the marriage thing right LOL Fearless Leader: ok, who had collar bone issues? Fearless Leader: I got a trick for instant collar bones rjchase222: I have a question concerning widest etc.. Does wide equal thick? Kat Indpls IN: only that mine hurts LOL Fearless Leader: LOL, Kat Shannon: yes RJ Fearless Leader: don't stress the thickness, just use what ever is thickest on your machine, if you don't have a machine just mash clay on the armature. rjchase222: Thanks I thot it did but then again.................... :) Susan: collar bones - do you carve them in?? Kat Indpls IN: hey dad always said i was made like a shit brickhouse didn't tell me it meant sore shoulders and all Fearless Leader: Ok, here's the trick of collar bones, don't use the whole leaf cutter, go to the edge of the clay with the widest part of the leaf and then cut. I'll show you Shannon: LOL Fearless Leader: there's your collar bone ledge Kat Indpls IN: mom was a petite 5' I'm 5' 9' Kat Indpls IN: oops " Kat Indpls IN: grams was only 4' 7" LOL Fearless Leader: now I'll add more leaf shapes and build up this guy Fearless Leader: smaller leaves for the shoulder cups Shannon: I"m gonna have a daughter like that Kat... I'm 5... she's already 5'4" Jmouse: I need to get some of those larger leaf shapes Shannon: me too Jmouse Kat Indpls IN: this part always reminds me of that clear body model you know the one with the innards in it Shannon: so far, I'm cutting out with my pocket knife...LOL meplus5kids: Any recommendations on cutters? I'm buying me a birthday present after Christmas! marlea_anderson: cool- I have those cutters too so I'll try that Jmouse: smile.. Shannon: the kemper cutters are what everyone seems to like Fearless Leader: Kemper, and I use leaf, circle the most marlea_anderson: yes Kat- the visible man or something- I still have my mom's Kat Indpls IN: think i'm in trouble myself son is already in a size 12 shoe and is almost level with me, half brother is 6' 6" meplus5kids: I know Karen has those. I'm going shopping next week. Jmouse: I have the smaller Kemper cutters Susan: I've got the visible woman somewhere in storage Shannon: Wow!!! Kat!! Fearless Leader: now sometimes I take the leaf shape and elongate it, for the forearm for example Susan: gotta pull it out and use for a model Kat Indpls IN: always thought those models were cool, if you could get the parts back in right LOL rossija9 left the room Shannon: good idea Susan! Kat Indpls IN: yeah we grow them long and tall here LOL Rossija (rossija9) joined the room Susan: I think mine has an add-on - for pregnancy! Kat Indpls IN: to bad he doesn't like basketball Shannon: LOL Shannon: really!!! Kat Indpls IN: that would be cool Susan marlea_anderson: I'll have to look at all the inside goodies in that model marlea_anderson: oh cool susan Kat Indpls IN: hmmm wonder if they still make those things would be cool to do the innards out of polymer clay Shannon: we're gonna be seeing some weird figures from Marlea.... ;-) Shannon: yes they do.... I've seen them in toy and craft/hobby stores Kat Kat Indpls IN: cool soon as the snow is cleared i'm looking for one, got something in mind for son marlea_anderson: http://www.playthingspast.com/ch-74622.html Fearless Leader: now for rib cage, use a partial leaf shape and use the straight edge along the spine, then wrap the rest of the leaf around to the front marlea_anderson: looks like they run about $20 Shannon: LOL you might be able to find pics on an anatomy website though Kat Indpls IN: no i want him to help build the pieces he's taking biology Shannon: ohhhhhhh marlea_anderson: ohhh, i see meplus5kids: Wish I had thought about that when I was in pre-nurshing taking anatomy 1 and 2 Shannon: NJ, how long, or how many times do you usually bake your figures this size? Fearless Leader: It depends, Shannon. A number of times depending on what I use for clothing, if I add color for the face, do TLS hair Kat Indpls IN: hm bro asked me what to get Daniel for xmas he's coming up from Virginia next week now i got an idea of what to get him Fearless Leader: After the first curing the figure usually had clothing, let me show you the Monk, he is at the first cure stage Shannon: do you do a rough guess on how thick it is and bake that length of time? Susan: so...you cure/bake the figures more thanonce, NJ? Shannon: how long did you do him? just 20 minutes or so? Fearless Leader: Yes, more than once Susan: ooo monk is cool! Fearless Leader: half hour if I remember to take them out on time Fearless Leader: half hour for each additional curing Fearless Leader: now he might get some TLS hair Shannon: Susan, baking more than once for short times helps keep from getting burnt Fearless Leader: he might get some color, he needs eyes Fearless Leader: all these will be separate curings Shannon: oh ok.... so with adding things, he gets cured all the way through... gotcha Fearless Leader: also after the first cure you can start to file. I'll get a link about filing faces Susan: thanks Shannon: yw Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Sculpt/FileFaces/Intro Fearless Leader: the first curing is rough draft Fearless Leader: like this monk here Shannon: the first figures I made, I baked them for a long time... and they burnt... I'd have to paint them.... didn't realize you could bake several times... cooling completely in between analog_ed2001 left the room minimadness423 left the room Fearless Leader: then I'll file his face, go over the file marks with TLS and skin clay mixed like Cover Girl make up Shannon: LOL no way!!! Shannon: I thought you said "mixed WITH"..... ok....LOL Shannon: ok, so very thin consistancy.... Fearless Leader: add some eyes and they will be raw clay, add eyelids, some color to his cheeks. All the while putting him back in the oven for each new raw layer laid over raw Fearless Leader: let me get you the link for TLS make up Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/Sculpt/TLSMakeUp/Index Fearless Leader: it's an under utilized trick Shannon: I did that with my cheerleaders eyes! I was so happy how they turned out! Shannon: and her cheeks too Fearless Leader: mix skin clay with Translucent Liquid Sculpey, make it the same consistency as face make up, and go over the file marks Shannon: you actually use a file? Fearless Leader: add color to the mix and you get the blush of the cheek, or eyebrows that are raised in volume. Want to see the file in action, Shannon? Shannon: sure! Fearless Leader: I'll get a link for a close up of these files, they are jeweler's files, you can use wood carving tools, wood rasps and the like too. Shannon: I have some large wood carving tools.... fine sandpaper would work too, no? Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/LEXX-Home/POF-Hand-Group-1Thm Fearless Leader: this is a fun web section Prince of Fire gets a hand Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/LEXX-Home/POF-Hand-Group-2Thm Fearless Leader: let me know when you're ready to see the file in action Shannon: I"m ready anytime you are! Shannon: that's really neat! I haven't tried doing that... what happens if you only use tls over the filed part? Fearless Leader: TLS without clay skin color looks icky Fearless Leader: like white blood cells dried Fearless Leader: ick Susan: good to know Shannon: ohhhhh.... ok! Shannon: thanks for showing me that! do you have to rinse it after filing, or just apply the tls mix? minimadness423 joined the room Shannon: wb minimadness! Fearless Leader: Ok, this MerCouple needs filing Fearless Leader: they are First Cure and in rough draft minimadness423: Yahoo scrooged me Shannon: LOL marlea_anderson: aww they're sweet Fearless Leader: but before they got their Tails, they had legs, feet, the whole lower body. Then they got tail covers, it makes your merfolks be more proportionate, which most Mermaids are not. minimadness423: without even a bah-humbug warning Fearless Leader: and you can pose them in different ways these two minimadness423: I got something for their stocking...Gizmo gave us two niiice furballs this evening Shannon: woohoo Yahoooooooo Fearless Leader: or, we can turn them in another direction Fearless Leader: or Susan: love the muscles on their backs - cool detail Fearless Leader: Their hair is TLS and Premo Pearl Green, mixed like whipped cream and slathered on marlea_anderson: oh by the way folks- i finally watched farscape last night- it was pretty neat Susan: slathered and backed? Susan: baked Fearless Leader: yes Fearless Leader: maybe they are second cure Fearless Leader: must be, they were bald with the first curing Shannon: did you bake them together like that? marlea_anderson: brb Fearless Leader: yes, they were cured together, but propped up with a toilet paper roller Shannon: ahhhhh Fearless Leader: but they need filing still Shannon: yikes! he was looking at me while kissing her!!! LOL Susan: LOL Kat Indpls IN: well its midnight and Santa ain't coming if i don't get to bed, so goodnight all and hope to see you tomorrow if not may you all have a Joyous Holiday Shannon: same to you Kat! Nite! meplus5kids: NJ, do you have a site on making hands? I know I've looked, but I can't remember. Fearless Leader: they are almost kissing meplus5kids: Goodnite Kat, Merry Christmas Fearless Leader: not quite Rossija: Goodnight, Kat! Fearless Leader: Merry Christmas Kat Fearless Leader: Biz-Archive/LEXX-Home/POF-Hand-Group-Thm Kat Indpls IN: *************************poof*******************jingle bells jingle bells jingle all the way zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Fearless Leader: there's a man's hand meplus5kids: Thanks. kgedrich left the room Fearless Leader: and there's been demos with hands, let me find the link rjchase222: Well I'm taking this body to bed cause the brain is on overload & the body is sinking. Besides Santa has to come!!!!! Merry Christmas to ya all!! :) Shannon: yes, my epson folder has a hand tut album... meplus5kids: Night Jean Fearless Leader: 11-19-04: Screen shots from the Demo on sculpting a hand. Thank you Shannon for shooting the shots. Rossija: Goodnight, Razma! Merry Christmas! Shannon: you are welcome! Fearless Leader: Nighty Night Razma Shannon: nite RJ! rjchase222 left the room meplus5kids: Sorry, RJ meplus5kids: Nite meplus5kids: Thanks NJ. I've read so many tutes they are starting to run together Fearless Leader: http://www.norajean.com/Avi/Shannon/handsmovie.avi Fearless Leader: here's Shannon's Avi of sculpting a hand Shannon: the avi goes really fast.... LOL Fearless Leader: Oh just ask, I know there's a lot of tutes, so ask when you can't find them. I don't mind Fearless Leader: It's the KeyStone Kops sculpting a hand meplus5kids: Gotta look at that one, need a laugh Shannon: here's mine too... if it helps... http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4257157&a=31516448&f= Fearless Leader: But what I'm making a point here is the first cure doesn't have to be perfect meplus5kids: Gotta get a notebook and write this down, ran out of paper Fearless Leader: close is good enough Shannon: LOL Susan: that's encouraging NJ Shannon: oh but I'm such a perfectionist.....LOL Fearless Leader: Right click on the chat log, select all, copy, then paste into an email to yourself mejbym left the room Fearless Leader: Perfect comes with multiple curing, filing, adding raw clay, cure again, sand a bit, fiddle with it meplus5kids: Thanks, let me try that. Fearless Leader: but the FIRST cure, doesn't have to be perfect Shannon: I'll have to remember that NJ Fearless Leader: I should save log and go out and come back in too, The Top of the Hour Break, folks |
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