MSATClayArt Face Sculpting Non Swap Link for Tips Page 8-30-2002 Live WebCam Sculpting A Man's Face. Log provided by Syl, thank you honey. |
You are in "*g.MSATClayArt:1" ( ) auntyalias: highlight that auntyalias: Hey Syl sylsnovelties: Howdy! Stevie: hi syl sylsnovelties: Looks like I'm late! sylsnovelties: Hi Stevie Stevie: not at all sylsnovelties: Whew auntyalias: That's my Ellen Durbin doll face dahs512: haven't started yet auntyalias: I'm just setting up the cam sylsnovelties: I love it ac4lb: oh I got it, thanks NJ sylsnovelties: What should I have here ready? auntyalias: ok honey auntyalias: your eyes open? Stevie: I tried to change my nickname in my profile to Stephanie so I wouldn't confuse folks but I guess I'd have to log in again? auntyalias: some cookies and milk sylsnovelties: Yup ac4lb: hi everyone auntyalias: nothing really azstitcher2001: brb sylsnovelties: Ok. I didn't know if I was supposed to do this as we went along. azstitcher2001 left the room auntyalias: I'm going to start with a blank face and sculpt a bit, ask for any questions, sculpt a bit more, ask for any questions sylsnovelties: I'm glad I can just watch. sylsnovelties: Sounds like a plan. auntyalias: not unless you want to, this is to watch it done is all auntyalias: easy breezy auntyalias: LOL sylsnovelties: Ok, my faces need a lot of work. auntyalias: what you did miss was seeing my earlier works frogger70301: is there any other way? auntyalias: they look like yours sylsnovelties: Oh good! heeheehee auntyalias: nope, I always make effort to make it easy for all y'all auntyalias: it's easier for me that way auntyalias: once I start I won't be able to help folks sylsnovelties: For some reason the web cam is larger tonight. That is great with me! auntyalias: so I'm depending on all of you to help your claymates auntyalias: Mine got bigger when I did the upgrade auntyalias: I have it on SuperCam sylsnovelties: Ahhh, that's it then. sylsnovelties: I love it! Stevie: it looks great. very clear auntyalias: What I'm doing now is warming up a blank head on a stick sylsnovelties: Stephanie, sorry I called you Stevie! frogger70301: Syl, if you click where it says webcam, you can zoom it. auntyalias: so it'll be soft when we start ac4lb: is there supposed to be sound or just the picture? sylsnovelties: No sound. Stevie: oh no problem, that is acutally what most friends call me ac4lb: ok, thanks Syl ac4lb: going to grab something to drink and maybe a snack brb auntyalias: we will be getting folks the closer it gets to the turn of the hour NikiT (azstitcher2001) joined the room auntyalias: so we'll give them how long to get settled? auntyalias: 10-15 minutes? What? auntyalias: or shall we start on the hour and next time they will be on time? Stevie: maybe 10? sylsnovelties: whatever you are comfy with. NikiT: i'd say 10 greatauntjudy joined the room sylsnovelties: Hi Jude! ac4lb: Hi Jude greatauntjudy: Howdy! Stevie: how many folks does the room hold without bumping? auntyalias: never had too many yet sylsnovelties: We've never had maximum greatauntjudy: Quite a crowd. Stevie: hey Jude! auntyalias: Hi Aunt Jude greatauntjudy: How is everyone this evening? auntyalias: Aunt Jude and Syl were in webcam for leaves last year, we had a bunch of people then sylsnovelties: Ready to go! sylsnovelties: Yup, I'm just a tad better at the leaves, but I haven't practiced enough. ac4lb: I'm glad I don't have to work in the morning, I can sleep in greatauntjudy: Holiday weekend! sylsnovelties: I found 2 cute little thingies at walmart today that I am going to make molds out of. ac4lb: My hubby very sweetly got everything ready for me for this tonight greatauntjudy: Thingys? GASP! Stevie: I've got little post-it notes on my monitor trying to put names to the yahoo ID's. sylsnovelties: heeheehee ac4lb: This is bonsai Kathy sylsnovelties: I thought that was you Kathy! dahs512: I'm Denise sylsnovelties: Hi Denise! ac4lb: yeah, the AC4LB is my ham radio call sign sylsnovelties: Ham radio, wow! Stevie: I recognized yours Denise sylsnovelties: My hubby wants one. Stevie: wow is right. aren't there strict codes to get the license and few of them at that? ac4lb: it's easier than ever to get a license, when I took my test you had to do 20 words per minute moris code ac4lb: yes there are ac4lb: gary talked to a man in kuwait tonight ac4lb: now it's 5 words per minute only ac4lb: very easy Stevie: very cool sylsnovelties: So I should start with what you are showing on the screen, NJ? ac4lb: write me personally for hubby and I'll give you info on it sylsnovelties: Ok, great! sylsnovelties: Are the innerds made of foil? ac4lb: the pics are great sylsnovelties: Hello? Stevie: I think NJ stepped away. sylsnovelties: Just making sure I didn't lose the connection. greatauntjudy: hello! ac4lb: she said she wouldn't be able to help during the webcam, so we'd have to help each other greatauntjudy: <waging> sylsnovelties: Right! Stevie: you're still here greatauntjudy: er...<eaving> ac4lb: I think that is how she does all of hers with a foil innard greatauntjudy: well, geez...<waving> sylsnovelties: She stops and takes questions. sylsnovelties: heeheehee auntyalias: I was checking list email and doing admin sylsnovelties: 3 tries at that one Jude Stevie: looks too smooth to be foil, ey? greatauntjudy: Yeah, a new record for me. auntyalias: I'm going to get some things ready here and I'll be back in a tick auntyalias: brb frogger70301 waves at greatauntjudy sylsnovelties: ok greatauntjudy: sylsnovelties: I'm not even downloading mail so nothing will interfere with this. dahs512: Before she gets started, can we all give a hey? sylsnovelties: Hey! dahs512: I'm Denise (in Austin) greatauntjudy: Hey, hey, hey! sylsnovelties: Syl here~! ac4lb: hey everyone frogger70301: Hey from Mitch! Stevie: I had better go take my bathroom break quick like now too so I don't miss anything brb HEY, from Stephanie(Stevie) greatauntjudy: jude here! ac4lb: Bonsai Kathy here dahs512: Sign in folks and take your seat at the front! ac4lb: good idea sylsnovelties: Ok, got all my names straight now. greatauntjudy: I'll ask you, Syl. greatauntjudy: sylsnovelties: heeheehee auntyalias: Take a bathroom break for sure greatauntjudy: Good idea...going for jammies, too! greatauntjudy: brb auntyalias: I'm eating a bit of dinner, drinking some coffee and I went to the loo so nothing interupts dahs512: brb sylsnovelties: I went before I came in too. ac4lb: lol sylsnovelties: Yikes auntyalias: it's a egg ac4lb: i'm eating icecream, drinking water and also went to the loo sylsnovelties: Oh wow, I wouldn't have guessed that. auntyalias: part of the Day of the Dead collection. The color is shaved pastel on cheap old White Sculpey auntyalias: applied with clay shapers auntyalias: scrape pastel until you have a powder. Press a clayshaper in it and press into raw white clay sylsnovelties: Clay shapers are also on my wish list! heeheehee ac4lb: neat auntyalias: makes a different sort of effect than painting only, or doing texture and running over it with powder auntyalias: press the powder in there auntyalias: don't need any expensive powders auntyalias: a razor auntyalias: some standard pastel chalk auntyalias: and there ya go sylsnovelties: So the flowers are powders pressed in with clay shapers? auntyalias: yup sylsnovelties: I could probably use some of the powder I made from the cooked clay. auntyalias: that's brilliant Syl auntyalias: truely brilliant NikiT: got a quick question for ya'll.. i'm working on my website & need to know what screen resolutions most of you use.. sylsnovelties: I accidentally cooked a piece of clay and then I used the fine grater and made a powder with it. auntyalias: I have tons of broken stuff. Oh let's do a Scav thing, taking broken bits and sticking them on raw clay auntyalias: Gosh, Niki, I don't know sylsnovelties: this one was a lump of clay. heeheehee auntyalias: someone else might, I use Front Page and it's like having training wheels ac4lb: I just did that today with my bonsai trunks to add some texture ac4lb: it worked well auntyalias: wow, we're definately on to something here auntyalias: I'm excited auntyalias: but auntyalias: then again auntyalias: I don't get out much auntyalias: LOL sylsnovelties: Me either! Walmart today for me was a biggie! dahs512: 1024 x 768 sylsnovelties: Of course, on oxygen, I have to "test" every bench they have in the store! heeheehee auntyalias: Someone has to test them sylsnovelties: right! auntyalias: thank you Syl, it's a public service NikiT: thanks denise sylsnovelties: Well the ones here in Gallup are holding up pretty good! That's my report! auntyalias: Well Done Syl Stevie: Niki, it used to always be 800x600 but now I am needing all the screen space I can get so I've switched to 1024x768. auntyalias: I'll announce to the list that it's time dahs512: k sylsnovelties: sounds good. greatauntjudy: bak ac4lb: ok sylsnovelties: Just in time Jude! NikiT: ok... I was trying to be fancy & use CSS but if it isn't viewed full screen one side overlaps.. so i think i'll probably go back to just plain tables Stevie: niki... one day soon I'll know what that means!! lol ac4lb: brb, hubby needs to be up at 4 and still has scanner on, need to turn it off for him sylsnovelties: ok greatauntjudy: Catching up...screen resolution 800x600 and I use Home Site. auntyalias: couple of more minutes and then we start ac4lb: dingbat, he fell asleep with it on sylsnovelties: NJ, is that filled with foil? greatauntjudy: I used my grater the other day, Syl. On raw clay and it's an interesting effect. auntyalias: Yes Syl, Wanna See? sylsnovelties: I've only tried it on the cured clay. auntyalias: I'll open it up for you sylsnovelties: That's ok. sylsnovelties: I just wanted to know auntyalias: it's raw, we can open and close it Stevie: ahhh. surgery! auntyalias: ouchie greatauntjudy: Grated some pretty fine and sprinkled it on a sheet and then put it through the PM. auntyalias: yowie sylsnovelties: Was it neato, Jude? greatauntjudy: Yikes, surgery! sylsnovelties: Ouch! auntyalias: totally greatauntjudy: Did you do the scrubbing up? sylsnovelties: Yup, that's foil innerds alright. auntyalias: we'll leave it open, like trepination auntyalias: in the bush with a broken soda bottle auntyalias: Ok, let's start for real now sylsnovelties: ok. dahs512: k greatauntjudy: I have some snackies here for everyone. Cheeze-its, some peanut brittle and some chocolate Oreos. greatauntjudy: Helpa you self. greatauntjudy: auntyalias: James went out and got me Chips Ahoy sylsnovelties: Toss me an oreo! auntyalias: because of those danged mini cookies last night auntyalias: LOL greatauntjudy: OO auntyalias: I want to ask you all something dahs512: sylsnovelties: heeheehee dahs512: k auntyalias: settle down ladies, I'm asking you what are we going to sculpt tonight? Male or Female? dahs512: androgenous auntyalias: we got to determine that to get the blank face shape ac4lb: my vote female Stevie: which ever is harder. auntyalias: naw, that's everyone's problem, not differentiating auntyalias: everything is hard if you think it so dahs512: male auntyalias: decide auntyalias: vote Stevie: male sylsnovelties: male greatauntjudy: male, yes. frogger70301: I say female auntyalias: two female, four male NikiT: male.. i'd think that would be more difficulte greatauntjudy: Just put a wig on the male. hehehehe NikiT: LOL auntyalias: ok. We'll make him a transvestite to satisfy everyone auntyalias: but that's much later greatauntjudy: LOL! auntyalias: ok, the thing about male faces sylsnovelties: ac4lb: roflol auntyalias: the jaw line is stronger greatauntjudy: Right, there is a difference. auntyalias: the brow ridge is more emphasised auntyalias: there's less cheek fat auntyalias: lips are usually smaller auntyalias: but they have those great eyelashes, which is not our concern right now auntyalias: but dang them for those lashes anyway sylsnovelties: Really! auntyalias: So first, before we start on the face greatauntjudy: I know what you mean. dahs512: can you do a male model type face...as in big lips NikiT: i have good lashes. auntyalias: we get the structure of the face settled jakmiami joined the room auntyalias: Kai has lips like three dollars worth of raw calves liver auntyalias: I can do men with lips auntyalias: LOL dahs512: cool auntyalias: ok, I'm going to give some shape to the jaw line and start shaping the general blank face first. You can toss things at each other all you want during this time because I'm not looking dahs512: i'm so estatic about this auntyalias: LOL Stevie: hi Judith we're just starting greatauntjudy: Shortish finger nails. I'm always putting nicks and marks from my nails in the clay. jakmiami: Hello there -- I just figured out that I had to be in chat as well as looking at the webcam. Glad I didn't miss much. sylsnovelties: Me too. I need to cut mine. Stevie: boy I just accidentally doubled-clicked the web cam and if filled the whole monitor COOL but then couldn't read posts Stevie: do you think the green surface she started shaping against is a tile? dahs512: hit esc to get out of it sylsnovelties: Boy, would you look at that. auntyalias: ok auntyalias: now you know this is male, why? auntyalias: strong jaw Stevie: jawline sylsnovelties: Jaw greatauntjudy: Square jaw? auntyalias: flat cheek auntyalias: strong brow Stevie: forehead auntyalias: adams apple ac4lb: adams apple and strong jaw greatauntjudy: He looks like Dick Tracy? auntyalias: totally Aunt Jude sylsnovelties: Good one auntyalias: Very Dick Tracy auntyalias: without features or clothing we know this is male for we know what the male markers are sylsnovelties: right, it just looks male. ac4lb: teri may come in, she just came online auntyalias: Ok, Now let's do the grid that will organize the location of the features of the face. I'll get the url. Remember to save the log as text so you go back and check the tutes later, ok? sylsnovelties: ok. ac4lb: ok Stevie: ok. you save when exiting? auntyalias: I save at different times and then name the file 1, 2,3, auntyalias: just in case I get booted off of Yahoo Stevie: got it. just saved. auntyalias: Also... when I wrote of Kai and his lips auntyalias: that's all the log you can see if you scroll up auntyalias: if you save regularly you don't loose urls, let me get the grid face url auntyalias: http://www.norajean.com/Sculpt-Face-Man-Grp.htm auntyalias: if you can open this page it'll show you what I'm fixing to do buci131 joined the room auntyalias: Eva auntyalias: http://www.norajean.com/Sculpt-Face-Man-Grp.htm auntyalias: I've asked everyone to open this page to know what I'm going to do next buci131: Hiya, heard you were starting early. buci131: Okay, just getting set up here. auntyalias: So we determined this was to be male auntyalias: we made the male markers auntyalias: strong jaw auntyalias: flat cheeks auntyalias: strong brow auntyalias: adams apple auntyalias: now we have to put location markers for his features, auntyalias: looking at the first picture on that page you see the blank face, like we have now auntyalias: What I will do is mark the grid lines, the text is on that page, ok? sylsnovelties: got it. auntyalias: so first we have to determine the middle of the face, the north south line auntyalias: That's the line the nose will line up on jinnyclaysaround joined the room auntyalias: http://www.norajean.com/Sculpt-Face-Man-Grp.htm auntyalias: Jinny open this page and you can follow what's on cam auntyalias: The second line is the right, left, mid line, oddly enough that's where the eyes are auntyalias: mid way auntyalias: makes room for forehead above auntyalias: my earlier omissions on my face sculptures sylsnovelties: I would have put them higher. Good point. auntyalias: He needs more mass on the top of his head Stevie: are eyes mid-way for male and female regardless of forehead size? greatauntjudy: Klingons don't, but they are different. sylsnovelties: Stevie: buci131: dahs512: auntyalias: Ok, so mid way from the center is where the pupils will be for the eyes greatauntjudy: That doesn't look centered to me, though. Stevie: think she means mid way from center left/right greatauntjudy: Oh, okie. auntyalias: From the mid line auntyalias: going to the right, mid way from the center to the right, poke greatauntjudy: I was trying place the eyes midway from top to bottom. auntyalias: mid way from the center to the left poke greatauntjudy: Okie, got that now. auntyalias: the eyes are mid way, this guys head is too flat on top. I'm adding clay to him to balance him out greatauntjudy: What is the measurement for north/south? auntyalias: center of the face auntyalias: the second picture on this page auntyalias: Sculpt Man's Face dylinna joined the room auntyalias: That eyeball line auntyalias: is the half way point on the face auntyalias: what's at the quarter point? greatauntjudy: I see more face below the line than above. greatauntjudy: Hmmmm... buci131: The bottom of the nose. greatauntjudy: Am I looking at it wrong? auntyalias: lower lip greatauntjudy: Oh, from the lower lip. Okie, that makes sense now. auntyalias: Ok, now let's start moving some mass around these grid lines jinnyclaysaround: Pardon the interruption but how do I get the web cam. NJ, when you sent the invite, it said server busy, try again. How do I? frogger70301: right click on aunty alias sylsnovelties: right click on NJ's name and then look for web cam. Stevie: jinny right click on her name. dahs512: right click on her name jinnyclaysaround: Thanks, will try again. jinnyclaysaround: View web cam is not highlighted. dahs512: come in through yahoo dahs512: through the web greatauntjudy: Look how quickly she did that face. buci131: That's what I was just thinking. sylsnovelties: A few pushes and shoves and it is a face. greatauntjudy: Looks like a great Picasso right now. auntyalias: ok jinnyclaysaround left the room auntyalias: when you're moving mass auntyalias: don't be delicate auntyalias: don't use the rubber clay shaper sylsnovelties: I could see that. auntyalias: I use bamboo, the tool handle sylsnovelties: I was scared! auntyalias: I don't use my fingers Stevie: how thick of a clay covering do you start with over the foil? dahs512: wish I could save the video auntyalias: I'll do the CD auntyalias: soon auntyalias: ish auntyalias: LOL ac4lb: me too greatauntjudy auntyalias: Ok, when you're moving mass don't be delicate ac4lb: Can't wait auntyalias: make sure your clay is soft auntyalias: use hard tools auntyalias: to keep this looking male dahs512: easy breezy auntyalias: we needed to flatten his cheeks auntyalias: A this point I start smoothing out what I've bullied into place greatauntjudy: Good question. How much clay did you put on and do you really mash up that foil underneath so it's hard-ish? dahs512: with a hammer greatauntjudy: Yikes! greatauntjudy: LOL! greatauntjudy: And, is the stick something to hold on to or does it serve another purpose? dahs512: i need more tols sylsnovelties: me too. dahs512: tools greatauntjudy: Raid your kitchen. dylinna: I can see my biggest problem was being too delicate. dahs512: pointy soft things dylinna: I don't think I've ever said that before. Stevie: I got mine from Karen a while back... very reasonable. sylsnovelties: Same here. I was trying to do it real easy. ac4lb: I have the smaller ones, I really would like to get the bigger ones dahs512: I've heard maybe making them out of eraser clay ac4lb: man she does this fast frogger70301: Anyone else see a slight resemblance to Elvis? sylsnovelties: <swoon> NikiT: Elvis is everywhere, man! auntyalias: Ok so we've smoothed the bullied clay auntyalias: any questions so far? sylsnovelties: You are so good NJ! dahs512: go Elvis...go Elvis greatauntjudy: Good question. How much clay did you put on and do you really mash up that foil underneath so it's hard-ish? Stevie: is the tip of your shaper dry? or have something on it? auntyalias: thankyouverymuchandwelcometoNashville greatauntjudy: And, is the stick something to hold on to or does it serve another purpose? dahs512: lololo auntyalias: wait one question at a time greatauntjudy: Looks like Captain Picard to me. auntyalias: I have a walnut sized bit of foil sylsnovelties: another swoon! auntyalias: and a thumb pad worth of clay around it, roughly, depends on the dolls really sylsnovelties: Smash the foil down real good? auntyalias: the clay shaper has nothing on it auntyalias: the clay keeps the foil on the stick auntyalias: mash that foil like crazy auntyalias: anything else? Stevie: not yet. thanks. dahs512: Do you use a mallet on your fooil? greatauntjudy: Is the stick to hold on to so you don't mash the head up? dahs512: foil auntyalias: I strong arm the foil against the table's edge dahs512: hammer woman! auntyalias: The stick will go into the body like a spine, check cowboy kai greatauntjudy: Okie, I see now. auntyalias: so to review auntyalias: what makes a man's face? auntyalias: you tell me sylsnovelties: Strong jaw, flat cheeks ac4lb: strong jaw an d adams apple greatauntjudy: Stronger jaw, less cheek. sylsnovelties: adams apple more forehead. frogger70301: strong jaw, strong brow, flat cheeks, adam's apple. ac4lb: there you go Mitch that's it greatauntjudy: Yes, forgot the Neanderthal brow. auntyalias: Now I'm going to make more definition to the face, laugh lines, work the mouth and chin, ok? auntyalias: smaller job auntyalias: smaller tool buci131: I agree with Jude, looks like Picard greatauntjudy: Make it so! sylsnovelties: heeheehee buci131: dahs512: mouth profile? ac4lb: I do too frogger70301: Yeah, I think Elvis has left the building! Doesn't look the same as a while ago. greatauntjudy: LOL ac4lb: started out with dick tracy, went to elvis and now picard ac4lb: dang she's good greatauntjudy: Hmmm...what size shaper is that? frogger70301: that is what I was thinking. ac4lb: it's the small ones, my favorite sylsnovelties: She said small frogger70301: size 0 greatauntjudy: I have small ones, but that looks bigger than what I have. dahs512: i NikiT: are u sure? That looks like #2 sylsnovelties: I need shapers of all sizes! Yup, added to the wish list! dahs512: need one of those NikiT: 0 are smaller frogger70301: forgot the ? earlier buci131: Try PCC auctions. I saw about four or five on there. ac4lb: the pointy one is a little longer, but that one does look bigger, we'll ask her when she gets back greatauntjudy: Mine are 0...looks bigger, must be the scale. sylsnovelties: Looks like his lips just got the injections! auntyalias: LOL, fat lips were requested jakmiami: Well, I think I'm going to have to call it a day...or rather, a night! It's the hour, not the company! Night... greatauntjudy: Oh, my! greatauntjudy: Night! auntyalias: I'm going to give him nostrils and do the upper lip ac4lb: night buci131: Goodnight sylsnovelties: Nitey Nite auntyalias: smaller job auntyalias: smaller tool Stevie: nite greatauntjudy: What size tools are you using, NJ? dahs512: lips ac4lb: what size is that tool NJ auntyalias: zero Stevie: are all these tools points only? dahs512: move up please greatauntjudy: What did you use before? NikiT: the ones prior to that were #2, right? dahs512: too low ac4lb: uh oh, she's moving out of the screen auntyalias: I can't see a size for the second tool, it's a paint shaper dahs512: can't see auntyalias: none on the big one, it's a paint shaper NikiT: ah dahs512: higher dahs512: that's good sylsnovelties: Yowza greatauntjudy: I bet that hurt! buci131: You can pick your nose, and you can pick your friends, but ... dahs512: Elvis is back frogger70301: look at how perfect it is! frogger70301: WOW! sylsnovelties: In such a short time too. dahs512: What a man! sylsnovelties: He's gorgeous! ac4lb: It's taken me several days to get to that point, haha sylsnovelties: I haven't even got to the foil yet. buci131: It's taken me several days and I'm still not there frogger70301: I haven't even had a chance to start yet. frogger70301: sylsnovelties: Aw don't cry! dahs512: Ya'll grab some foil and shape it buci131: Those gorgeious pens have been taking up your time and I wouldn't have it any other way frogger70301: pens and eggs! frogger70301: Thanks! dahs512: I'm seeing lips ac4lb: I had to take a break to work on some bonsai and the pens and more rocks, to many projects, arrgghhhh frogger70301: I know how that is! auntyalias: ok dahs512: upcurled on one side? Who sylsnovelties: He is gorgeous NJ! auntyalias: Elvis auntyalias: LOL frogger70301: wonderful! auntyalias: anyway, when you do noses buci131: auntyalias: make the nose as a solid wedge auntyalias: the wedge no wider than you want that nose to be auntyalias: where it tucks in right here auntyalias: when it's as wide from tucked in corner of nostril to the other dahs512: eyes? auntyalias: then put in the holes and PULL your tool sideways auntyalias: last auntyalias: eyes go last auntyalias: or they get goofed up auntyalias: get in the way of everything else auntyalias: too detailed and delicate to be bothered like that, so they wait auntyalias: until the face is ready to receive them and be done dahs512: k dylinna: fascinating, amazing!! Thank you!!! Must sleep now. sylsnovelties: He looks so handsome. Stevie: nite diana ac4lb: night buci131: Goodnite Diana sylsnovelties: Nitey Nite! dylinna: Night! greatauntjudy: Night. dylinna left the room ac4lb left the room greatauntjudy: Explain eyes, please. dahs512: Would you cock his nose up just a little, or do I input too much? greatauntjudy: I see you just put a hole there. dahs512: one side ac4lb joined the room ac4lb: somehow managed to close out my browser, auntyalias: ok auntyalias: ready for questions buci131: Do you use the same color clay as the base, to cover the foil, as you use for the outer "skin" layer? auntyalias: not on this one because this is just a demo, the head was left over from an Asian run Stevie: are your shaping tools all the ones that all strictly points, not the other odd shapes? buci131: Or just a similar color so the one you're mixing isn't used up as quickly. auntyalias: this skin is Caucasion that I added on for mass on the top and the face sylsnovelties: Normally you would probably have to use the same color with so much manipulation, right? buci131: In other words, I could use a basic beige color for the base and then cover it with a layer of the skin mix I'm using? auntyalias: Stevie, I use what ever seems to work at the moment. I use cones mostly though dahs512: Are we steering yo to Graceland auntyalias: Ya, Syl... hold up lookie here dahs512: lol sylsnovelties: Boobies dahs512: he's happy auntyalias: ok, that's my Ellen Durban doll Stevie: do you always sculpt ALL features even if some will never be seen in the finished project (ears for example)? sylsnovelties: Ok, I see. auntyalias: here's flesh sheets to use to work with while working on her auntyalias: so he's dirty yellow and new Ellen Durbin white auntyalias: or Caucasian sylsnovelties: Ok, got it. auntyalias: Ok, so what shocked you the most, or made you go AhHah? frogger70301: for me it was the nose dahs512: mucle moving around sylsnovelties: What shocked me was that you weren't delicate with moving the clay around auntyalias: Oh Stevie I almost didn't see that question. I have a tendency to sculpt nipples when there's going to be clothes covering it auntyalias: Eva, Saw your skin question, I'm scrolling up auntyalias: I used to use what the hell clay under and nice clay on the top dahs512: Since we think you can do magic....what's next Stevie: how the beginning line spacing formula really pulls all together once you sculpt each stage. auntyalias: but now... I like to have the clay be of the same color batch auntyalias: in case I have to do emergency surgery buci131: Okay, thanks--that helps. sylsnovelties: sounds right. auntyalias: See how I rolled the clayshaper to smooth auntyalias: that's the ticket, don't use your fingers auntyalias: I make effort to hardly touch these things auntyalias: because they get all dirty auntyalias: finger prints and all that auntyalias: our hands are hot dahs512: do you think shapers can be made of eraser clay? auntyalias: and our fingers too big ac4lb: I discovered that well working on my face this week. buci131: The ah hahs for me were the face mapping and the clay moving. auntyalias: I dunno about eraser clay auntyalias: you tell me auntyalias: Mitch can tell all of us Stevie: do you sand faces at all like jewelry? auntyalias: she got that stuff laying around the house buci131: Someone made some and said it worked pretty well, but I don't remember who it was. auntyalias: I use metal Jeweler's files to get the general shape organized auntyalias: and then dahs512: I'll try it and see frogger70301: I'm gonna try some right now. Let me go fire up the oven. auntyalias: dig this ....you guys paying attention? buci131: yep auntyalias: after sanding with a metal file dahs512: yes maam sylsnovelties: yes auntyalias: I mix skin clay with TLS greatauntjudy: Yup! auntyalias: and spakle ac4lb: yup auntyalias: a thin layer, like cover girl make up dahs512: spakle? Stevie: my aha moment: how the beginning line spacing formula really pulls all together once you sculpt each stage auntyalias: fills in the sanding marks greatauntjudy: Spackle for the walls, spackle? auntyalias: ya ya dahs512: oh, as a technique? auntyalias: don't bother to sand when you got the shape you want greatauntjudy: Hmmm... Stevie: I saw a tip before about using the waterless hand cleaner on the tip of a shaper to smooth. buci131: cool auntyalias: fill in the grooves by back filling with a thin slip of tls and the skin color auntyalias: you can tint the cheeks while you're at it auntyalias: add a bit of sun bronze on forehead, nose bridge and chin and cheeks auntyalias: while you're at it auntyalias: it is in CowBoyKai auntyalias: when I did his face buci131: with TLS and color? auntyalias: it's such a trick dahs512: have you used dry blush? auntyalias: take the same skin mix auntyalias: you're using on the face auntyalias: mix with TLS so it's like foundation make up sylsnovelties: Could we use real face makeup? auntyalias: can't cure it auntyalias: it'll burn on ya sylsnovelties: Ok, dahs512: oh auntyalias: but it saves achey hands the sanding chore buci131: add the bronze color to the skin/TLS mix? ac4lb: I like anything that helps me avoid sanding auntyalias: and the metal files just get the big nicks and bumps off, then when you got the shape you want, TLS auntyalias: I use face make up blush with TLS and the skin color for cheeks to blush auntyalias: remember on men's faces, give them a blush where the sun would kiss their face auntyalias: forehead auntyalias: nose bridge auntyalias: cheek ridge auntyalias: chin auntyalias: it makes the face look less dead auntyalias: more alive with a sun kiss auntyalias: a face of one color only looks like a mortician did him up dahs512: Gotta work in am, thanks NJ, I'm gonna have to cut out. Someone save this for me will ya? auntyalias: I think eyes should be a separate demo though auntyalias: so this is it for now sylsnovelties: I will. dahs512: thanks auntyalias: one hour of sculpting Stevie: thank you! buci131: Thanks NJ. Great stuff! sylsnovelties: Wow, all this in one hour ac4lb: thanks NJ, It was wonderful dahs512: nity nite greatauntjudy: Thanks! auntyalias: and that includes typing, so you can do it faster than you've been doing it, bully that clay dahs512 left the room sylsnovelties: ac4lb: night buddhamoon left the room NikiT stands up and applauds auntyalias: thank you for all coming down and hanging out sylsnovelties: My pleasure for sure! auntyalias: I'm going to cop a smoke and take questions if there are any. sylsnovelties: this was terribly exciting! auntyalias: LOL buci131: Syl took the words out of my mouth auntyalias: Syl ac4lb: we thank you for doing this for us. I hope you do it at night like this again after I get home from work auntyalias: We got to do something exciting, we don't get out much sylsnovelties: Right! sylsnovelties: this made my day, heck my week. greatauntjudy: Right! auntyalias: Kathy, I'm doing it on Holidays, late, so it doesn't impact with people's work ac4lb: I may wait on the eyes until you do that demo sylsnovelties: I'm anxious to try it now. I better work on clay shapers! I'll ask hubby real nice like. heeheehee auntyalias: I got mine through ClayAlley greatauntjudy: Good idea, Syl. auntyalias: and then the art store for the larger ones greatauntjudy: What sizes do you have NJ? auntyalias: Syl what are you going to do different on your faces next time? ac4lb: Holidays aren't holidays for me since I work at a hotel but when I get home at 11, 12 is easy for me NikiT: hey NJ.. do you notice with your clay shapers that if you handle clay a lot, and handle the shapers a lot, the paint on then shapers gets sticky & comes off? sylsnovelties: Everything! sylsnovelties: heeheehee auntyalias: There's a penny for size reference sylsnovelties: I wasn't doing it right at all. auntyalias: I sand my handles auntyalias: wash my tools sylsnovelties: I also used my fingers too much. auntyalias: do that and it'll not bother you Niki NikiT: ok.. will do that. thankx auntyalias: keep the fingers off of it, if you want to handle stuff make canes auntyalias: if you want to sculpt, I'd keep the fingers off as much as is possible sylsnovelties: Right, no fingers on the next one for sure. sylsnovelties: And, there will be a next one! buci131: That's the same thing with the cameos--especially when working with white. Dirt magnet auntyalias: and you'll review the tutes, right Ladies? greatauntjudy: What sizes are those shapers? sylsnovelties: You bet. buci131: You betcha ac4lb: absolutely auntyalias: the two larger ones don't have sizes on them, I put the penny there for you to see the size reference auntyalias: the little one is zero auntyalias: that's all I know greatauntjudy: Okie, thanks. ac4lb: I have to tell you, everyone at work is bugging me to bring in the head again so they can see the progress auntyalias: you're welcome Aunt Jude auntyalias: coolness, Kathy auntyalias: let's pick a real person buci131: Please, let's sylsnovelties: Oh boy! auntyalias: someone you know, like a Singer ac4lb: I'm really enjoing it auntyalias: and let's both do it, for practice ac4lb: how about brad pitt buci131: Or Captain Picard greatauntjudy: LOL auntyalias: make a picture collage of your favorite person auntyalias: left, right, straight, laughing, frowning buci131: I'm working on that right now, actually for my face off auntyalias: all the pictures you can sylsnovelties: Maybe I'll try my hubby! auntyalias: that's cool too, James won't let me greatauntjudy: Great idea, syl! auntyalias: he's all secretive auntyalias: that poot sylsnovelties: Bill probably won't either. ac4lb: that's why I did my son, i happened to have a side and front view auntyalias: sylsnovelties: I'll have to try Elvis! auntyalias: got to thin that jaw auntyalias: Oh Let's DO ELVIS auntyalias: for sure auntyalias: a big Elvis sculpting extravanganza auntyalias: YEAH auntyalias: LOL ac4lb: yes i do sylsnovelties: heeheehee greatauntjudy: Oh, dear... jakmiami left the room sylsnovelties: Can we make the jirating hips? heeheehee auntyalias: I will do a young Elvis, when he was still wearing levis NikiT: elvis has lots of forehead sylsnovelties: Tight black leather! sylsnovelties: heeheehee auntyalias: I have an Elvis clock with swinging legs greatauntjudy: Cool! buci131: I've seen those. sylsnovelties: Oh how neat Nj auntyalias: 1968 Leather Elvis, the Come back Elvis sylsnovelties: God, he was handsome! buci131: I'm not that familiar with his facial features, though auntyalias: that's why we make collages greatauntjudy: My sister is the Elvis fan. I lean more toward the Beatles. buci131: Have to do a little research auntyalias: gather pictures from the web ac4lb: I saw him in person the night he made his comeback in Vegas auntyalias: make a collage sylsnovelties: You can get tons of pictures off the web. auntyalias: like my Kai Collages auntyalias: have you seen them? sylsnovelties: You lucky thing you Kathy! buci131: I don't think so sylsnovelties: The collages were good. sylsnovelties: All views. ac4lb: yes I saw him 2ce in person, that first time though we were in the same hotel with him and got his autograph and his family's autographs too auntyalias: Michael McManus II, sylsnovelties: Oh my! auntyalias: That's the start, they are slow loading because I did them for printing them out sylsnovelties: I would just have died! |